RJMacready73
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Haha same chap, was reading this in bed earlier and showed her and she just groaned and said the world needs a fucking cleanseI showed my misses this fucked up project and she was laughing for minutes lol
Haha same chap, was reading this in bed earlier and showed her and she just groaned and said the world needs a fucking cleanseI showed my misses this fucked up project and she was laughing for minutes lol
Franchise ruined. This series is dead to me now.
Not that I was ever that into it in the first place, but ya, hard pass on this IP going forward.
So when Netflix made Tomb Raider: The Legend of Lara Croft, nothing bothered them?It was canceled because apparently the owners of tomb raider didn't like how its license was being used.
Sad news: we are canceling the Tomb Raider RPG project. Due to creative differences we couldn't get our vision to gel with the licensor's, so we've chosen to part ways.
If the woke RPG has been cancelled due to disagreements with the woke developers and the publisher, do you think this bodes well for the next Tomb Raider game proper?
What if they keep the treasure in the game but instead of snatching it she just takes a selfie with it and leaves. That'd be more realistic lolOP said that this game will transition Lara AWAY from being a raider of tombs. You proceeded to say the game was all about crawling around tombs for no reason, without anything cool there like treasure. Honestly, either of these scenarios are dumb, valid complaints for a Tomb Raider game. One expects there to be A) a tomb, B) something to raid in it
I completely agree with you. But considering your love for this GIF, it will probably be easier for you to change your Avatar to it, so as not to post it constantly.
In fact, let them do what they want. The market and demand will judge them, if some studios are eliminated and closed in this way because of their "brilliant" ideas, that's only a plus.
I wouldn't even say anti heroes.Seems like more and more we are not allowed to have Anti Heroes in games anymore. What was the last one? The last one I remember playing as was Joel in TLOU. I'm kind of tired of playing as Goody Goody protagonists.
I wouldn't even say anti heroes.
It's just everything now has to be measured through some insane sociopolitical ideology and characters are ending up having to be "perfect" and are extremely boring.
Like Nathan Drake or Lara aren't really anti-heroes in the literary sense, but because of external social pressures of the modern age, we now have to view them as killers and bad people etc.
Like James Bond was never an anti-hero, nor was any of Arnies classic 80s action characters.
Pretty sure Joel is just a flawed character. One of the reasons why in most part that he, Tommy and Tess were alive is because they're hardened survivors that have committed terrible acts, many against innocent people.Chloe is an antihero or straight up villain. Nathan Drake could be a legit antihero. Joel is not. He behaves as a decent person would do in the fucked up society he lives in. The same goes with Ellie.
LOL this just reads like the convenient version of "it was cheaper to leave it in"By the way this sentence? I don't want to fathom what the creative difference were there. Remember the original games' remastered version you get below message?
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I wonder which one tried to be more woke: Crystal Dynamics (Embracer Group) or Evil Hat Productions. Questions, questions![]()
Yep, and "modern gaming" insistence on perfect characters, especially if they are female, ruins quite a few stories.Pretty sure Joel is just a flawed character. One of the reasons why in most part that he, Tommy and Tess were alive is because they're hardened survivors that have committed terrible acts, many against innocent people.
Nathan Drake while killing many were always against soldiers of opposing armies many of which were cartoonishly evil, or those that support said villains and leaders.
Then they have to depend on themselves for every sale. With the Tomb Raider IP they get a nice head start to success, despite this being an entirely new IP. Tomb Raider's main bullet point was tits. No amount of coping or paragraph typing will change this. I'd go as far as to say even the modern trilogy butchered the meaning of Tomb Raider. Sure it was a competent Uncharted clone that I bought at launch on all three occasions, but it was a poor attempt at Tomb Raider. I didn't even like the original series tbh. Had the Dreamcast version and there are no memories of ever having a great time with it. Tried like hell, it just never clicked.I remember this OP post as one of the epitomes of absurd virtue signaling. The characters were actual fucking checklists of oppression.
It was simple, don't make TOMB RAIDER. Create your own new shit where you don't play as the iconic character you hate about things you hate. But alas, that would've made no money so let's use it when it's convenient. I don't get this shit, even as someone well versed in, and usually greatly disgusted by, colonialism as a concept. It's just a game where you do cool shit, jesus christ.
in case other people who also just read the title.
1. It's an extremely old post about a board game that was being made by a third party.
2. It got bumped because it was canceled.
3. It was canceled because apparently the owners of tomb raider didn't like how its license was being used.
I know want to see a serious Duke Nukem game dealing with horrors of alien invasion, psychological impact of collapse of society and fighting the said alien oppressors!Then they have to depend on themselves for every sale. With the Tomb Raider IP they get a nice head start to success, despite this being an entirely new IP. Tomb Raider's main bullet point was tits. No amount of coping or paragraph typing will change this. I'd go as far as to say even the modern trilogy butchered the meaning of Tomb Raider. Sure it was a competent Uncharted clone that I bought at launch on all three occasions, but it was a poor attempt at Tomb Raider. I didn't even like the original series tbh. Had the Dreamcast version and there are no memories of ever having a great time with it. Tried like hell, it just never clicked.
I'm not a booba gamer whatsoever, but I think the recipe for success for Tomb Raider is something like the modern trilogy, but with much larger breast, slightly skimpier outfits and more cheeky humor in the writing. A dead serious modern TR makes about as much sense as a dead serious Duke Nukem.
This is what Remedy should have made like 2 years after Max Payne 2 when they still had their testosterone. With the same tone and tenor of Max 1&2. I'd love to see nihilistic Duke in a worn-down apartment. Chain smoking and doing lines of blow every 10 minutes just trying to cope with the chunky chaos in his wake. Only to be called back into service by an inescapable future.I know want to see a serious Duke Nukem game dealing with horrors of alien invasion, psychological impact of collapse of society and fighting the said alien oppressors!
Duke will be a strong female character of course!
Overly sanitized preservation?There is a legitimate conversation about how a lot of archeology has historically involved removing artifacts and treasures from their original cultural context , either for the sake of just plain greed or for overly sanitized "preservation" purposes in a faraway land.
Overly sanitized preservation?
I agree, it's ridiculous. These ancient treasures should be accompanied by exhibits celebrating those who brought them to the loving embrace of western civilization. Maybe add a wing where a cinema shows the good Indiana Jones movies (you know the ones) and a lobby with gaming kiosks where you get to play the good Tomb Raider / Uncharted games (you know the ones). Make it a real multimedia extravaganza.I'm referring to presenting an artifact or exhibit without its proper context, even in cases where it is well known to have been obtained through conquest, looting or other unsavory practices. In other words, treating it like the object just magically popped up in a whole other country.
I agree, it's ridiculous. These ancient treasures should be accompanied by exhibits celebrating those who brought them to the loving embrace of western civilization. Maybe add a wing where a cinema shows the good Indiana Jones movies (you know the ones) and a lobby with gaming kiosks where you get to play the good Tomb Raider / Uncharted games (you know the ones). Make it a real multimedia extravaganza.
Its all become a trope of late. You can have interesting a strong male and female leads without all the bullshit. Just write them as human beings and be realistic about it. If people can't relate to a character in some way you're doing it wrong.Yep, and "modern gaming" insistence on perfect characters, especially if they are female, ruins quite a few stories.
Edit: And I am also in the camp that devs need to stop overthinking about Tomb Raider. Set the game in the past, let Lara be hot, wear short shorts, and raid Tombs.
To be fair, the original Tomb Raider design was corny and completely unrealistic. Who's dressing like that to climb on all that shit?Its all become a trope of late. You can have interesting a strong male and female leads without all the bullshit. Just write them as human beings and be realistic about it. If people can't relate to a character in some way you're doing it wrong.
Unfortunately Crystal Dynamics are as woke as they go and iirc they hated the old Lara legacy originally done by Core Design. So I don't hold much hope for the franchise.
Companies just need to reign in overly politicized stuff or replace the people pushing for it (and that goes for other industries as well). No one wants to hear about colonization and getting preached to in a fucking piece of entertainment. Especially now. That ship has sailed long ago (thank god).
I was talking more about the writing tbf. But yes, sex sells. As we can see from how well Stellar Blade is doing.To be fair, the original Tomb Raider design was corny and completely unrealistic. Who's dressing like that to climb on all that shit?
Cameltoe is really gonna make the game more immersive
Who cares about realism in Tomb Raider game. Is someone supposed to be taking out dinosaurs in a realistic fashion by dual wielding 9mm ?To be fair, the original Tomb Raider design was corny and completely unrealistic. Who's dressing like that to climb on all that shit?
Cameltoe is really gonna make the game more immersive
I don't get this. What is happening to the entertainment industry? You got people making stuff that they probably even themselves don't want to consume, let alone any customer. Feels like it's just a bunch of miserable people being determined to pull us into their misery by destroying everything that is fun.
May sound harsh but there is really no other way I can explain projects like this. How could we let this happen?
I've always thought the "argument" that Drake is sociopathic murderer and achtucally the bad guy in Uncharted to be one of the lowest IQ vapid takes around. For one, it's a fucking video game. I guess Mario is trying to kill off an entire ecological system by stomping on turtles. Like what are we talking about?
If you want to get "analytical" (and I use that term loosely) and argue that Drake is a bad guy he's also fighting for his life against mass murderers and people trying to kill him. Whats he supposed to do? Summon care bears and unicorns to use the power of rainbows to protect him?
If you're someone who wants to argue that DrAkE iZ a CoLoNiZaer!!!!--~~~ AnD GEtZ WaT hE daSeRvEz then you're just fucking stupid, we have nothing in common, you've never seen or touched a real boob, and are incapable of having fun in your life.
This is my new head canon.I guess Mario is trying to kill off an entire ecological system by stomping on turtles. Like what are we talking about?
People are still liking this over the course of the day.Time to stick to Japanese games, folks.
I know want to see a serious Duke Nukem game dealing with horrors of alien invasion, psychological impact of collapse of society and fighting the said alien oppressors!
Duke will be a strong female character of course!
To be fair, the original Tomb Raider design was corny and completely unrealistic. Who's dressing like that to climb on all that shit?
Cameltoe is really gonna make the game more immersive
My whole comment on realism was in response to what someone said like two pages ago but I guess that has been lost at this point.Hard disagree. She has an explorer outfit. Just type explorer on Google. Anyway, a videogame doesnt need to be "realistic" but consistent. The original Tomb Raider is an adventure game with fantasy elements and nothing feels out of place with the overall tone of the game. The new trilogy attempts to be a pseudo-realistic drama show in the vein of Uncharted and fails miserably because that is not Lara Croft , no matter what she looks like.
Its not like she ever was doing stuff like swiping the Magna Carta, the Constitution, or stealing something out of Mecca. She was always hitting ancient, long obsolete cultures with no real current inhabitants other than maybe some nigh savage degenerated remnants (that cave society from the last game being a bit of an exception). Is any current government or peoples really laying claim to cannibals, dark magic, or crap like that? Just 'cause they live on the same dirt as some folks 2000 years ago doesn't mean they share any linguistic, cultural, or religious connections that would make the things dragged out of the 'tomb' any more theirs than Lara's.To be fair, it is good that she no longer goes to steal artifacts from other countries. But it is not very interesting to make the game solely about criticizing colonialism. I'd be up to play an adventure game with several topics.
This is not how it works. A country owns their land and what lays in it. An individual from nother country has no right to go and steal something.Its not like she ever was doing stuff like swiping the Magna Carta, the Constitution, or stealing something out of Mecca. She was always hitting ancient, long obsolete cultures with no real current inhabitants other than maybe some nigh savage degenerated remnants (that cave society from the last game being a bit of an exception). Is any current government or peoples really laying claim to cannibals, dark magic, or crap like that? Just 'cause they live on the same dirt as some folks 2000 years ago doesn't mean they share any linguistic, cultural, or religious connections that would make the things dragged out of the 'tomb' any more theirs than Lara's.
Sure, thats the legal reason why folks don't casually do this, but that is equating prior civilization artifacts, long buried and forgotten, with ground water, oil, and minerals. A game where a diamond hunter slips in to raid diamond mines wouldn't be called a "colonizer fantasy" or whatever. Tomb Raider isn't a judgment about european colonization or oppression of 'minority people of color' (who are in fact the VAST MAJORITY of humans on the planet). It's escapist fantasy about exploring a mythic past. Sure, they could look back to purely european/british isle places for inspiration but they also want exotic locales (exotic for the player base, anyway) so they can have that desert, jungle, island stuff.This is not how it works. A country owns their land and what lays in it. An individual from nother country has no right to go and steal something.
Just sying. I understand it ws just a game, and a good one at the time. Nobody ws offended then that I can remember
This is not how it works. A country owns their land and what lays in it. An individual from nother country has no right to go and steal something.
Just sying. I understand it ws just a game, and a good one at the time. Nobody ws offended then that I can remember