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[I'm an expert]

It's just gotta be the settings of Rockstar games. Western-style America? Seriously, the most boring period of all time. Dumb hats and revolver duels. The only thing more boring is.. mid 1900s America! LA Confidential might be the only thing that has interested me from that period, otherwise Mad Men, LA Noire, or anything with that style.. shoot me in the head. Then there's..modern America! Fuck that, I lived it, I don't need to play it. Pretty much every country other than America has a cooler historical setting with cooler historical "stuff", be it armor, weapons, architecture, whatever.

 

[hlhbk]

If you give in to apathy that's just a free pass for this trend to continue. Voting by not buying the game isn't good enough; If the people who don't care and are happy with the game get to say so, so do the people that aren't.

If the game is a hit and sells well what does complaining accomplish? If it sells well no amount of complaining will change anything.

 

[RoKKeR]

It's just gotta be the settings of Rockstar games. Western-style America? Seriously, the most boring period of all time. Dumb hats and revolver duels. The only thing more boring is.. mid 1900s America! LA Confidential might be the only thing that has interested me from that period, otherwise Mad Men, LA Noire, or anything with that style.. shoot me in the head. Then there's..modern America! Fuck that, I lived it, I don't need to play it. Pretty much every country other than America has a cooler historical setting with cooler historical "stuff", be it armor, weapons, architecture, whatever.

Can't even begin to describe all the things that annoy me about this post, so I won't even go there.

 

[Andrew.]

I miss Mercenaries... the first one

Me too. RIP Pandemic

 

[TGO]

Despite the changes, they have made a good game from whats been said, what I'm interested in is where they go from here

 

[B-Dex]

There is one part in this game that really bothers me with how stupid it is. Non-story spoilers:

Spoiler

Huge firefight on the giant gondola platform in the middle of nowhere with 50+ guys.

Literally made me eyeroll.

 

[Andrew.]

It's just gotta be the settings of Rockstar games. Western-style America? Seriously, the most boring period of all time. Dumb hats and revolver duels. The only thing more boring is.. mid 1900s America! LA Confidential might be the only thing that has interested me from that period, otherwise Mad Men, LA Noire, or anything with that style.. shoot me in the head. Then there's..modern America! Fuck that, I lived it, I don't need to play it. Pretty much every country other than America has a cooler historical setting with cooler historical "stuff", be it armor, weapons, architecture, whatever.

Well shit, I thought you were a pretty decent poster up until this nonsense =P

 

[I'm an expert]

Can't even begin to describe all the things that annoy me about this post, so I won't even go there.

I wouldn't be annoyed by your different opinion, it's a shame you can't give me the same courtesy. =/

Well shit, I thought you were a pretty decent poster up until this nonsense =P

Woah boy..here we go.. opinions = nonsense. Thread bail imminent.

 

[Andrew.]

There is one part in this game that really bothers me with how stupid it is. Non-story spoilers:

Spoiler

Huge firefight on the giant gondola platform in the middle of nowhere with 50+ guys.

Literally made me eyeroll.

Uncharted inspiration confirmed.

 

[Violater]

I miss Mercenaries... the first one

Ohh no you didn't!

Spoiler

Yup that was a great game

So we have gone from the game being shit to being good to it being shit again?

 

[Andrew.]

Woah boy..here we go.. opinions = nonsense. Thread bail imminent.

Im just messin with ya man ^_^

 

[I'm an expert]

Im just messin with ya man ^_^

OK GOOD CAUSE I WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE ANYWAY. AND I DON'T EVEN LIKE TOMB RAIDER.

Also let's just get it out of the way before you guys find out another way - I loved FF13 and FF13-2.

 

[S1kkZ]

finished the game today (360), took me about 12 hours with all optional tombs.

i really wanted to hate this game after all the marketing bullshit and nonsense from the developers. but i cant, the game is really good and i enjoyed it.
yes: it lacks identity and borrows heavily from other games, laras transformation is handled poorly, sometimes there is too much focus on action/combat and its not like the old games (which i loved) at all. its also pretty shallow if you really think about it (like the arkham games and assassins creed are shallow).

so why did i like it that much? the game just plays well, has a great atmosphere, does all the uncharted stuff (combat, traversal, exploration, story, characters, cinematic moments) better than uncharted itself and it looks stunning.
the combat feels and plays better than uncharted, with more interesting combat situations and more options that keep the combat interesting.

the game is what i always wanted uncharted to be: a good mix of cinematic action and adventure/exploration elements. it also doesnt feel as restrictive as the uncharted games (more open levels, exploration is rewarded, replay value).

despite laras unrealistic transformation in the beginning, she is still one of the better written female videogame characters (i know thats not saying much...) and the story is decent. pretty much all of the other characters suck (sterotypes galore. angry black woman, spiritual indian guy, shady scientist, nerd..really?) but in the end, its ok. the whole stuff about the island is well done and almost every hidden item reveals a bit of back story about the stuff that went down.

the visuals are fantastic (one of the best looking console games for sure) but the framerate is pretty bad. the game almost never manages to run with 30 fps, in some later areas its drops heavily (25 ish). at least there is no tearing...
i also noticed that the game stutters heavily for about 10 seconds once you get an achievement.

the optional tombs are a real disappointment: while they look great, they are way to easy and short. each one doesnt take longer than 2-3 minuts to solve. if there is a sequel to this game, i hope they improve on this. i like the idea to "exclude" the tombs from the main game, but they should be longer and harder, not just 2-3 rooms that only look great.


i would rate it 7.5 out of 10. i really liked it but there is a lot of room for improvement.

 

[Ninjimbo]

Also let's just get it out of the way before you guys find out another way - I loved FF13 and FF13-2.

It's okay. I liked them too. We're in the minority though.

 

[Andrew.]

It's okay. I liked them too. We're in the minority though.

I loved FF13 too and I grew up with em all. Lets be friends guys.

 

[I'm an expert]

Oh..hey..people with taste! (see what I did there)

You guys are slowly convincing me to buy TR used instead of waiting for the bomba price drop... no online pass thank god.

 

[kuroshiki]

I loved FF13 too and I grew up with em all. Lets be friends guys.

You and I are now sworn enemies.

ENEMIES I SAY! =P

Oh..hey..people with taste! (see what I did there)

You guys are slowly convincing me to buy TR used instead of waiting for the bomba price drop... no online pass thank god.

Nah man. just wait for the price drop. If $33 amazon price didn't made you grab in the heartbeat, why play now?

Meanwhile I'm waiting until March 5. MUHAHAHAHAHHA

 

[GenoZStriker]

finished the game today (360), took me about 12 hours with all optional tombs.

i really wanted to hate this game after all the marketing bullshit and nonsense from the developers. but i cant, the game is really good and i enjoyed it.
yes: it lacks identity and borrows heavily from other games, laras transformation is handled poorly, sometimes there is too much focus on action/combat and its not like the old games (which i loved) at all. its also pretty shallow if you really think about it (like the arkham games and assassins creed are shallow).

so why did i like it that much? the game just plays well, has a great atmosphere, does all the uncharted stuff (combat, traversal, exploration, story, characters, cinematic moments) better than uncharted itself and it looks stunning.
the combat feels and plays better than uncharted, with more interesting combat situations and more options that keep the combat interesting.

the game is what i always wanted uncharted to be: a good mix of cinematic action and adventure/exploration elements. it also doesnt feel as restrictive as the uncharted games (more open levels, exploration is rewarded, replay value).

despite laras unrealistic transformation in the beginning, she is still one of the better written female videogame characters (i know thats not saying much...) and the story is decent. pretty much all of the other characters suck (sterotypes galore. angry black woman, spiritual indian guy, shady scientist, nerd..really?) but in the end, its ok. the whole stuff about the island is well done and almost every hidden item reveals a bit of back story about the stuff that went down.

the visuals are fantastic (one of the best looking console games for sure) but the framerate is pretty bad. the game almost never manages to run with 30 fps, in some later areas its drops heavily (25 ish). at least there is no tearing...
i also noticed that the game stutters heavily for about 10 seconds once you get an achievement.

the optional tombs are a real disappointment: while they look great, they are way to easy and short. each one doesnt take longer than 2-3 minuts to solve. if there is a sequel to this game, i hope they improve on this. i like the idea to "exclude" the tombs from the main game, but they should be longer and harder, not just 2-3 rooms that only look great.


i would rate it 7.5 out of 10. i really liked it but there is a lot of room for improvement.

Edit: NVM, my bad.

And you said the Optional Tombs are a disappointment, but are there Tombs that are not optional, that you need to progress for the story? If yes, how are they?

Also, appreciate you taking your time to give us your opinion.

 

[Derrick01]

Fuck me..RDR is the most boring game of the generation that's for sure. Ick.

It's certainly up there near the top. It's like GTA 4 but with even less things to see and do than that game had over the previous GTAs.

Can you let us know what console this is on?

It says 360 near the top.

It's not surprising either. Most console games nowadays run at a consistent 24fps or so due to ancient tech.

 

[I'm an expert]

You and I are now sworn enemies.

ENEMIES I SAY! =P



Nah man. just wait for the price drop. If $33 amazon price didn't made you grab in the heartbeat, why play now?

Meanwhile I'm waiting until March 5. MUHAHAHAHAHHA

That $33 price comes with the added price of PC gaming. DO NOT WANT.

It's certainly up there near the top. It's like GTA 4 but with even less things to see and do than that game had over the previous GTAs.

I take everything I said back. You are the best poster in this thread. I hope TR sucks and I hope you are right and laugh at everyone in here.

 

[Andrew.]

You and I are now sworn enemies.

ENEMIES I SAY! =P

lol. Bring it mothafuckaaaaa =P

 

[Baconsammy]

Can you let us know what console this is on? And you said the Optional Tombs are a disappointment, but are there Tombs that are not optional, that you need to progress for the story? If yes, how are they?

Also, appreciate you taking your time to give us your opinion.

It's in the first sentence. With the way achievements are acting, I'd say his console may have an issue.

 

[kuroshiki]

lol. Bring it mothafuckaaaaa =P

Come at me bro.

That $33 price comes with the added price of PC gaming. DO NOT WANT.

Oh you were looking for console version. My bad. You may still wait though. My prediction is console version will see drop in the price in 1-2 months. This title is still very single player heavy game (which we all should support, by the way. Screw 'everyone should play multiplayer' BS), so people will sell games after they beat the game.

 

[Ken]

Does Lara get alternate costumes in the single player?

 

[S1kkZ]

Can you let us know what console this is on? And you said the Optional Tombs are a disappointment, but are there Tombs that are not optional, that you need to progress for the story? If yes, how are they?

Also, appreciate you taking your time to give us your opinion.

i played on 360, ps3 seems to be the same (framerate wise) from what i played (i rented both versions).

there are some "tombs" in the main story, but they are nothing like the tombs from the "original" games. there are some light puzzles here and there but nothing that will satisfy a hardcore tomb raider fan. its not bad but like i said above, shallow.

@ken: i didnt unlock any alternate costumes/outfits.
@baconsammy: my console(s) are fine. after the achievemnt thing happend for the first time, i switched to my other 360: same problem.

 

[I'm an expert]

Come at me bro.



Oh you were looking for console version. My bad. You may still wait though. My prediction is console version will see drop in the price in 1-2 months. This title is still very single player heavy game (which we all should support, by the way. Screw 'everyone should play multiplayer' BS), so people will sell games after they beat the game.

I fully expect it to be $40 in a few weeks. If they released day one games on PSN at a discount, say 49.99, I'd actually just say fuck it and buy it there.

 

[Grisby]

Does Lara get alternate costumes in the single player?

Pre order only apparently. Maybe they'll sell them down the road.

Kind of sucks as CD was pretty good about this in their previous games.

 

[kuroshiki]

so I assume that there is no 'new game plus' right?

 

[SmithnCo]

I fully expect it to be $40 in a few weeks. If they released day one games on PSN at a discount, say 49.99, I'd actually just say fuck it and buy it there.

You get $10 back this month. So you would get extra if they release it day-one digital.

 

[I'm an expert]

You get $10 back this month. So you would get extra if they release it day-one digital.

You're right about that, plus I got the $10 for being a super loyal customer. So TECHNICALLY it'd be 40. I'll consider it! But no preorder bonuses at all. =/ I can totally preorder, get codes, and cancel/return games, can't I? Do people do that? The only thing that I'd even slightly want is the mp map.

 

[Andrew.]

so I assume that there is no 'new game plus' right?

Unfortunately =/

Someone said it would break the games pacing and progression mechanics.

Thats why I see no replay value in this after I 100% it. Like collecting wise, not trophy wise.

 

[S1kkZ]

Unfortunately =/

Someone said it would break the games pacing and progression mechanics.

yep, it would break the game. at least you can continue after the credits and get all the tombs/collectibles you missed.

 

[I'm an expert]

Unfortunately =/

Someone said it would break the games pacing and progression mechanics.

Aka.."this shit is waaaayyyy too scripted for that." Are there difficulty settings at least? Gotta be some reason to replay it, for trophs or something.

yep, it would break the game. at least you can continue after the credits and get all the tombs/collectibles you missed.

Ah..geez. Easy sp clean up then for trophs. This is why I say, sp is such a small piece of the content, especially for the price. Without the mp, you'd pay $60 for that?

 

[Derrick01]

Unfortunately =/

Someone said it would break the games pacing and progression mechanics.

Please tell me they didn't actually say that.

I'm going to hold it to whoever said that when I inevitably encounter a skill or modded weapon that breaks the game 60% through.

 

[Andrew.]

Aka.."this shit is waaaayyyy too scripted for that." Are there difficulty settings at least? Gotta be some reason to replay it, for trophs or something.



Ah..geez. Easy sp clean up then for trophs. This is why I say, sp is such a small piece of the content, especially for the price. Without the mp, you'd pay $60 for that?

No difficulty trophies either from what I've seen which is pretty twisted.

 

[I'm an expert]

No difficulty trophies either from what I've seen which is pretty twisted.

So, yeah, lol. You bang out the sp, clean up the trophs...and you're done. Sure, you can replay, but you'll be replaying the exact same game in the exact same order/sequence/difficulty. Hence, mp to extend the life or trade that ish in.

 

[Mogwai]

the visuals are fantastic (one of the best looking console games for sure) but the framerate is pretty bad. the game almost never manages to run with 30 fps, in some later areas its drops heavily (25 ish). at least there is no tearing...
i also noticed that the game stutters heavily for about 10 seconds once you get an achievement.

the optional tombs are a real disappointment: while they look great, they are way to easy and short. each one doesnt take longer than 2-3 minuts to solve. if there is a sequel to this game, i hope they improve on this. i like the idea to "exclude" the tombs from the main game, but they should be longer and harder, not just 2-3 rooms that only look great.

Nice. Let's hope the PC version is optimized and runs smoothly. Sounds like the game will utilize some horseporse at least.

About these tombs. They are optional I see, but can you go and clear them when you want to? Or do you have to do them, when you're on a specific mission?

 

[Andrew.]

So, yeah, lol. You bang out the sp, clean up the trophs...and you're done. Sure, you can replay, but you'll be replaying the exact same game in the exact same order/sequence/difficulty. Hence, mp to extend the life or trade that ish in.

MP is tacked on and pointless. Im gonna put it towards Last of Us when Im finished. Itll knock a good chunk off of the Survival Edition.

 

[S1kkZ]

Ah..geez. Easy sp clean up then for trophs. This is why I say, sp is such a small piece of the content, especially for the price. Without the mp, you'd pay $60 for that?

thats hard to say, since i only rented it for 4 days. if you have no interest in mp, you see everything there is to see in about 12 hours (unless you really, really want to collect all there is).

if you are fine with 12-15 hours of good entertainment for that price, its worth 60 bucks.

@mogwai: you can do them whenever you want to. after the credits, they are even shown on your map, so you dont have to explore/search for them...

 

[GenoZStriker]

Hey come on now. Lara only needs protection once =]

 

[I'm an expert]

MP is tacked on and pointless. Im gonna put it towards Last of Us when Im finished. Itll knock a good chunk off of the Survival Edition.

I can't say one way or the other without having played it, but people said the exact same thing you just did about UC2. Guess what, you were wrong.

 

[I'm an expert]

thats hard to say, since i only rented it for 4 days. if you have no interest in mp, you see everything there is to see in about 12 hours (unless you really, really want to collect all there is).

if you are fine with 12-15 hours of good entertainment for that price, its worth 60 bucks.

If there's one trend I wish gamers would stop, it's this. If you don't want throw away sp campaigns with no replayability, wait the few weeks and show the devs you won't pay $60 for it. "Day one!" does more harm than good sometimes. Not speaking specifically about this game, just in general.

fuuckkk double post, sorry

 

[Andrew.]

I can't say one way or the other without having played it, but people said the exact same thing you just did about UC2. Guess what, you were wrong.

Im just saying what everyone else was saying jokingly. I actually really liked UC's multiplayer and this coming from someone that despises it (multiplayer)

 

[Sorian]

Pre order only apparently. Maybe they'll sell them down the road.

Kind of sucks as CD was pretty good about this in their previous games.

Pre-order from where and what costumes? (I tried googling and didn't see anything from gamestop or amazon unless I'm daft).

 

[Satchel]

This game is fucking awesome.

Absolutely love it. It's like they used Uncharted 1 for inspiration (the good Uncharted) but made it even less linear. Or at least appear less linear. Like the original Uncharted which at least tried to hide its linearity.

The controls are tighter, the shooting better and the melee works better. It may be inspired a lot by Uncharted, but it does everything important better than it.

Haven't touched multi yet.

 

[S1kkZ]

one thing about the super violent kill/finishing moves from the trailers: i never saw any of that in my playthrough, since i didnt unlock them (you dont have to and i just didnt want to waste xp points for that shit).

 

[I'm an expert]

It's like they used Uncharted 1 for inspiration (the good Uncharted)

There are good people in this thread..I might have to switch to TR Gaf as my main hangout.

 

[The perfect Dark]

Holy shit this game is stunning.
Definately in my Top 5 of current gen games for me

 

[Lovely Salsa]

Is it possible to unlock this game on Origin using VPN? Is so, which country?

 

[GDJustin]

Playing through this now. I absolutely love it. About halfway through. Spoiler-free thoughts:

- CD did a great job of making Lara feel like a vulnerable hero that can and will get hurt. Part of the problem with Unhcharted isn't just that Nathan Drake murders 1000s of people. The other half if the issue is that he is an invincible superman. Tomb Raider doesn't have this issue.

- The game seems very easy so far. I haven't come close to dying yet.

- Optional tombs are usually just a single puzzle. Solve it, get your reward, and you're out. But on the flipside, Uncharted has no puzzles. Not real ones, anyway. Uncharted's puzzles all solve themselves. In TR, there aren't a huge number of them, but at least the ones that are here are what I would consider "true" puzzles.

- The non-linearity is really great. Truly does make the game feel like a cross between Uncharted and Arkham City. I'm hooked on returning to previous areas to explore when I unlock new traversal abilities.

- Leveling up Lara's weapons and abilities is not a gimmick. They provide a very real sense of "powering up," with abilities like melee counters and collectible locating locked away until players level-up and earn them.

- There is some non-linearity in the combat as well. TR doesn't have totally open "combat sandboxes" like Uncharted's shipyard sequence, but you can sometimes get the high ground on enemies, etc.

- Stealth isn't really a viable combat tactic. You CAN take out dudes sight-unseen one by one if you're super careful. But like Uncharted, when one sees you, they all know your location. You can't lose them, or hide behind a wall, etc.

- This might be the most fun / most satisfying bow I've used in a video game.

-Everything about the game is impeccable. You can be disappointed with the game's direction, but it's pretty much impossible to be disappointed with the execution of that direction. The story is genuinely intriguing. Everyone is well-acted. All the acts are perfectly paced. The island is a great location with lots of varied locales, etc.

Like I said, I'm hooked. I think it's good enough to be on GOTY short-lists, most likely.