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Too Human Stand and be counted
- Thread starter Denis Dyack
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Quazar said:
Epicness will ensue.
Francias Castiglione
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CowboyAstronaut said:
Fuckin' A. You nailed it.
EDIT - and so did Puncture!
Immortal_Daemon said:
Don't get your hopes up, TH is fundamentally not Diablo and going in expecting it to be another series is just setting yourself up for disappointment. Of course TH has elements from that larger genre, but it will fundamentally play different due to different design principles and goals.
BlueSummers
Member
Amir0x said:
What's your favorite game? It's shitty because I say it's shitty.
GauntletFan
Banned
Can't say I can predict one way or the other with this game - I hope it turns out great, but the media shown so far hasnt impressed me that much.
One thing that I do find pretty abhorent is the way Too Human threads are basically a mandated trolling zone when there are certain other titles where even the slightest piece of critical posting risks a ban. I wouldn't have started a thread like this but it must be pretty disheartening for any SK employees to read some of the threads on here, which often make Gamefaqs look intelligent.
One thing that I do find pretty abhorent is the way Too Human threads are basically a mandated trolling zone when there are certain other titles where even the slightest piece of critical posting risks a ban. I wouldn't have started a thread like this but it must be pretty disheartening for any SK employees to read some of the threads on here, which often make Gamefaqs look intelligent.
Amir0x said:
Why should we care about what you think?
Honest question.
Give us a few reasons, why the rest of us on GAF, should take your opinion on games seriously to any degree.
Whenever I criticize a game, I always make it a point to back up what I mean. I try to give alternatives, or other ways the issue I have with the game, could be addressed. Sometimes I don't have time to go into detail, but for the great majority of my posts, I try to.
This is because I come from a Computer Science background and thus have a very, very basic understanding of game development, a decent understanding of software development, and a decent knowledge in regards to graphics, audio, AI, physics, and current technologies.
I've also used to do videogame reviews for a major Calgary newspaper. I've played tons of games, good and bad. My analysis of said games went deep, for not only the review itself, but my own understanding of what makes a great game.
When it comes to racing games, hockey games, wrestling games, FPS games, I know my opinion is valued here on this forum. Can you say the same for yourself, especially when talking about action games such as this?
That people like YOURSELF have set...
Wait, it's YOU who are not owning up to the bet. It's clearly stated:
"If I am wrong and gamers in general think the game is crap then I am comfortable with getting tagged Owned by the GAF."
Why do you back-peddle, and now consider anything less than a 90% to be "crap"?
What Dennis is doing here is calling you out. If you're gonna call the game "shit", and repeatedly slag the game in every thread, uphold unfair double standards in regards to trolling for just his game, why don't you man up if it turns out that you're wrong?
Yeah, that's right. MAY BE. So why aren't you confident in betting that the game will not get over an aggregate rating of 60%?
I think the answer is simple...you know you're wrong. You know that the game isn't going to be shit. You know that a lot of people will like the game. You know that this won't be another LAIR or HAZE.
Because the whole point of this is to prove the guys labelling the game "shit", wrong. Sure, call it childish. I can see why people would consider this childish. But the fact is, the game is being treated unfairly on this forum, trolling the game seems to be sanctioned by the mods, and he apparently doesn't like that.
Man up.
If you're gonna call the game "shit", fucking man up.
My fellow Too Human fans. Sons and daughters of Baldr. For ten years, we have been a tortured nation. Shunt, oppressed, and mocked by those we sought to escape. 10 years ago, our marvelous leader, Denis Dyack, asked for more time and some Shakespearean vag jokes, and that time and that suspension of disbelief was granted by you. You, the strength in my Baldr's genetic implants, the holders of Denis' vaguely interesting dreams.
His forefathers, Kojima-sama and Miyamoto-sama, embarked on the greatest endeaver in the history of all mankind-- to create a game with fart jokes for the masses. A fart-joke machine of freedom. Too Human became that freedom. Too Human changed our minds. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... more well versed in basic Nietzsche.
In the time you have given Denis, he has rebulit our nation, he has rebuilt out strenth, and he has rebuilt our pride! His enemies, the trolls on the internet, the mean, oppressive Sony-paid moderators at GAF, and Mark McDonald at home have been reeducated. We have given them new insights into our cause. On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our Shakespearean verse. On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be mocked NO MORE!
Defenders of the Too Human, NOW IS OUR TIME!
His forefathers, Kojima-sama and Miyamoto-sama, embarked on the greatest endeaver in the history of all mankind-- to create a game with fart jokes for the masses. A fart-joke machine of freedom. Too Human became that freedom. Too Human changed our minds. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... more well versed in basic Nietzsche.
In the time you have given Denis, he has rebulit our nation, he has rebuilt out strenth, and he has rebuilt our pride! His enemies, the trolls on the internet, the mean, oppressive Sony-paid moderators at GAF, and Mark McDonald at home have been reeducated. We have given them new insights into our cause. On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our Shakespearean verse. On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be mocked NO MORE!
Defenders of the Too Human, NOW IS OUR TIME!
I_D
Member
Amir0x said:
See.... but Dennis Dyack HAS to care what people say, because people are what make him money.
Honestly, if I was a game developer and the hate for the game really was this strong (it's not just GAF that hates it.... it's a lot of forums) I'd try to change things around, rather than just argue.
But again, I have hope for the game. So I'm still for. I won't go anywhere near a purchase until good reviews show up though.
Puncture said:
I think what you and some other people are completely missing is that 99% of this thread, even the people hating on the game, don't actually care. Having an opinion about something doesn't mean you have a deep personal interest in it. Almost every post I've seen in this thread (not all) commenting on his lack of professionalism or whatnot hasn't been some crazy hater, just someone making an observation. Do I think this is unprofessional of him? Sure. Do I care? Hell no, this is fucking hilarious. Your post is just as bad as any of Amirox's in this thread. Also add all of Fighty's posts to that, holy shit dude :lol :lol
2 Minutes Turkish
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I was thinking the same thing. I'm on the fence about the game itself, but as far as this thread goes, the haters look like idiots right now (Sorry Amirox, I actually think you're a great mod though).
Lair and Haze were pumped up and hyped from the day of their announcements (funnily, I thought the games looked like shit from day one, mooooohahahahaha now who's laughing?) Too Human has been shitcanned for literally years despite it's better than average pedigree.
So using Lair and Haze as examples seems cool to me. Everyone is saying "You're comparing your game to Lair and Haze?" but I bet if these games release at the same time, you'd telling him his game would get owned by both. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, and is generally only used as a crutch by those with no balls.
Like I said earlier, a game in development for 10 years to me, doesn't have a great future ahead of it, but I still think it will get average review scores higher than what the negativity on this forum would rather dictate, so good on you Denis.
Dyack, you need to realize that people don't want you to fail as much as they want you to SHUT THE FUCK UP.
you talk. A lot. Too much, in fact. And you constantly are hyping your games up as being these wonderfully artistic mergers of the greatest aspects of literature, movies, and games. You try to draw parallels between your games and shakespearean works or some ridiculous crazy hyperbole like that.
I mean, I can understand hyping your games up, but good lord. Shakespeare? Are you kidding me?
Dennis, you're the head of a small Canadian studio that has released a grand total of six games in its sixteen years of existence, and only three games in the last twelve years. Two of these games had the supervision of EAD, and they still turned out to be extremely underwhelming. Eternal Darkness was a game, what, five, six years in the making? I enjoyed the game, and would give it maybe an 8 out of 10, but good lord, considering the development time you had, the fact that you had EAD providing supervision, and the amount of crap you spewed out of your mouth about shakespeare and poe and lovecraft, the game was pretty damn flawed, unpolished, and downright boring in sections.
Oh, and the only game you've released since that is a pretty average remake of Metal Gear Solid. Actually, calling it a rerelease with new graphics and audio would be more appropriate than calling it a remake in lieu of games like Resident Evil for the GameCube. And you had both Konami and Nintendo supervising that one.
Now you're releasing a game that has been, what, ten years in the making, that has had innumerable features cut. Yet here you are, still hyping your games up as though you've created a masterpiece, as you were doing with your last original game early this decade.
When guys like Itagaki hype their games up, people don't hate on them about it because:
#1: Itagaki is funny, and you're not.
#2: They don't compare their games to Shakespeare
#3: They don't spend more time talking about their games than their PR departments
#4: They don't care about their reputations on internet message boards
#5: They consistently deliver on their hype
#6: They don't take six years to make games,
#7: This is probably the biggest one of all. They usually don't talk about their games and hype them up frequently in interviews IF THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THEM.
You say "Put Up or Shut up." What you need to do is put up. And please, for once in your life, shut up.
you talk. A lot. Too much, in fact. And you constantly are hyping your games up as being these wonderfully artistic mergers of the greatest aspects of literature, movies, and games. You try to draw parallels between your games and shakespearean works or some ridiculous crazy hyperbole like that.
Dennis Dyack said:
I mean, I can understand hyping your games up, but good lord. Shakespeare? Are you kidding me?
Dennis, you're the head of a small Canadian studio that has released a grand total of six games in its sixteen years of existence, and only three games in the last twelve years. Two of these games had the supervision of EAD, and they still turned out to be extremely underwhelming. Eternal Darkness was a game, what, five, six years in the making? I enjoyed the game, and would give it maybe an 8 out of 10, but good lord, considering the development time you had, the fact that you had EAD providing supervision, and the amount of crap you spewed out of your mouth about shakespeare and poe and lovecraft, the game was pretty damn flawed, unpolished, and downright boring in sections.
Oh, and the only game you've released since that is a pretty average remake of Metal Gear Solid. Actually, calling it a rerelease with new graphics and audio would be more appropriate than calling it a remake in lieu of games like Resident Evil for the GameCube. And you had both Konami and Nintendo supervising that one.
Now you're releasing a game that has been, what, ten years in the making, that has had innumerable features cut. Yet here you are, still hyping your games up as though you've created a masterpiece, as you were doing with your last original game early this decade.
When guys like Itagaki hype their games up, people don't hate on them about it because:
#1: Itagaki is funny, and you're not.
#2: They don't compare their games to Shakespeare
#3: They don't spend more time talking about their games than their PR departments
#4: They don't care about their reputations on internet message boards
#5: They consistently deliver on their hype
#6: They don't take six years to make games,
#7: This is probably the biggest one of all. They usually don't talk about their games and hype them up frequently in interviews IF THEY'RE NOT SHOWING THEM.
You say "Put Up or Shut up." What you need to do is put up. And please, for once in your life, shut up.
I_D
Member
TheOneGuy said:
Well it's too late now to change anything major in the game (or apparently not.... since they can cancel 4-player coop) so this is a pretty retarded move.
However, if it was early in development, then a thread asking what fans would like to see would have been a great idea.
Well I am strongly against TH but my expectations are not for the game to literally suck ala Lair, but for the game to not average in the 90's, for it not to be some masterpiece or even that great.
I expect low 80's---a decent or good game. No 90's for TH = bomb to me since that seems to be where the expectations...used to be =P.
I expect low 80's---a decent or good game. No 90's for TH = bomb to me since that seems to be where the expectations...used to be =P.
FightyF said:
Well thanks for your resume FlightyF, but as already established I'm not trying to argue why you guys should care what i say. I'm not Denis Dyack. I don't frankly give a shit, my only point was that from my perspective the only reviewer that matters is myself.
FlightyF said:
There is no way to accurately weigh the opinion of "gamers in general", and as I said once gamerankings and metacritic entered into the discussion with the metric of HAZE AND LAIR I was only here for the lulz. There's no way for me to backpeddle here since I never started peddling.
But for Denis Dyack, who has set this standard, there's no way we're going to mass enforce a bet which is so heavily stacked against once side.
FlightyF said:
What he's doing is whining like a little bitch on a forum. What I was doing was criticizing his catalog of games in threads past, and I have gone into elaborate detail on why games such as Eternal Darkness are atrocious on many occasions. And I've stated why Too Human looks and seems terrible multiple times. One does not need to "man up" to some imagined unfairness to continue doing so.
FlightyF said:
:lol :lol :lol
BlueSummers
Member
GaimeGuy said:
If he puts up with Too Human will YOU shut up?
AgentOtaku
Member
Bravo FightyF! ...fucking B R A V O !!!
monchi-kun
Member
i like living on the edge...i have no real stake in this bet as i haven't followed the game at all but i'd like to vote AGAINST in the hopes of a new GAF tag and possibly being part of internet history on NeoGAF's Wikipedia page
Technosteve
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Amir0x said:
your a douche
goldenpp72
Member
As a great man once said "At least haze has 4 player co op"
Well, yes, but that wouldn't be a "stupid fucking thread", as I put it. That would actually be pretty neat!Immortal_Daemon said:
But that's NOT what he did. He made an ass of himself, and continues to do so. "Put up or shut up," he says.
IT'S A FUCKING TAG ON A FUCKING VIDEO GAME FORUM. What a tool.
BlueSummers
Member
Amirox, he was not whining like a "little bitch". I think you need to go back and read the OP. All he said was that he believes his game is great and calling all the people out who have bashed this game including you. Where is all this whining? Seems to me your whining more than him.
AgentOtaku
Member
goldenpp72 said:
...yeah and after Haze's extensive development....thats the only damn thing it got sorta right ....
gray_fox224
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:lolTechnosteve said:
akachan ningen
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Flavius said:
You give him too much credit. Didn't you listen to his interview on egm live? The guy is obviously clueless.
A Human Becoming
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Denis is a grown man. I don't think he needs an anonymous guy on the internet to defend him.
akachan ningen
Member
Tobor said:
Then play diablo 2.
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