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:dtl means friendship/homoerotic tension? Huh.

When you look at the kind of anime/manga dtl likes and what he likes/doesn't like in long running series it should be obvious. As an example naruto is his ongoing favorite of the big 3 due to naruto x sasuke followed by fairy tail due to natsu x gray

i didn't know that either ;-;

And that's why most of us were laughing and saying "were drowning in :kayos "
 
oh crap i forgot InuYasha

Samurai Jack
One Piece
InuYasha
Space Dandy
Soul Eater
Clone Wars
Ghost in the Shell
IGPX
Sword Art Online
Naruto Shippuden
Bleach
 
I always thought it was called "Shipping" because it involved a complicated plan of placing the 2 characters together on "The Love Boat", and letting them get close together under a series of convoluted, fan-conceived tactics.

I'm not sure if I'm kidding.
 
Not going to lie, I'm still elated as shit that Kickheart got 0 points! No show is more deserving of a 0 and arguably a 0 is too much for it.

I seriously don't understand your raging hate boner for that short. There's nothing particularly bad or offensive about it. Like I understand if you don't like it or if the animation (which was good, just not stylistically to your tastes) didn't sit well with you but there nothing really super hateable about it :/
 
This week had an incredibly simple plot, I thought it was pretty easy to understand/remember. I prefer the self contained episodes, the complex episodes get too talky for my liking.

See the overall mystery of the laughing man, who he is, what he wants, where the truth hides, etc that's what sucks me into the world of GitS. I don't mind SA episodes to develop the characters, but I feel we should have a better balance between SA and C episodes like 1-2 then switch instead of big blocks of SA followed by big blocks of C

I always thought it was called "Shipping" because it involved a complicated plan of placing the 2 characters together on "The Love Boat", and letting them get close together under a series of convoluted, fan-conceived tactics.

I'm not sure if I'm kidding.

For dtl its real, it isn't shipping
 
I think what does it in for me is the fact it didn't seem like it focused on any specific main character. They normally shoulder a plot heavily on one of the Section 9 members similar situations. Which makes the show feel like it's simple situation has layers of meaning. Yet here, it's as if everyone had a little say... which didn't amount to anything serious.

And our villainess has probably be done a few times in the series. Single-minded Prosthetic limb weapon-wielder! Ooo! *shrug*

i dunno, i don't think it was that since last week didn't really focus on a single character, either, and at least to me that was ok. i think it just lacked anything compelling whatsoever.
 
I don't even know who DTL is.

DTL refers to Dedication Through Light.
He frequents the manga and anime threads, posting about yaoi and series with "deep bonding connections" or something.
He's outright admitted in the past that he judges a series based on the fanart it gets.
 
DTL refers to Dedication Through Light.
He frequents the manga and anime threads, posting about yaoi and series with "deep bonding connections" or something.
He's outright admitted in the past that he judges a series based on the fanart it gets.

I see. Sounds like an interesting fellow.
 
I seriously don't understand your raging hate boner for that short. There's nothing particularly bad or offensive about it. Like I understand if you don't like it or if the animation (which was good, just not stylistically to your tastes) didn't sit well with you but there nothing really super hateable about it :/

What about Kickheart was likeable? The characters sucked, the story sucked, the art sucked, the animation sucked, the comedy sucked, the voice work sucks, the whole thing just sucks.

Does it have moe blobs or tentacle rape or incest? No, but I don't think any of those things have to be inherently bad its in the execution. I can also see how people could enjoy those things. I see nothing in Kickheart that was enjoyable at all, it's truly the perfect storm of bad bad bad bad bad
 
What about Kickheart was likeable? The characters sucked, the story sucked, the art sucked, the animation sucked, the comedy sucked, the voice work sucks, the whole thing just sucks.

Does it have moe blobs or tentacle rape or incest? No, but I don't think any of those things have to be inherently bad its in the execution. I can also see how people could enjoy those things. I see nothing in Kickheart that was enjoyable at all, it's truly the perfect storm of bad bad bad bad bad

I think you're looking too much into. The thing was so damn short that no one should have any strong opinions for or against it.
 
DTL refers to Dedication Through Light.
He frequents the manga and anime threads, posting about yaoi and series with "deep bonding connections" or something.
He's outright admitted in the past that he judges a series based on the fanart it gets.

He is a real treasure
Also famous for doing things like putting 70 hours into Pokemon X and not even getting the second badge, or 90 hours in Persona 4 and not even being 75% done
 
Kickheart is great. Short and sweet and quite memorable.

Kick-Heart was neat. Shit was less than 15 minutes. I don't see what there was to hate about it.

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That's kind of a very specific term/example, what makes the :username work is because it can apply to so many moments

:dtl friendship/homoerotic tension

:kayos not knowing something that is considered common knowledge

:duckroll hype leading into crushing disappointment

Other then my kickheart tirade I really don't hate on things that nobody else would talk about if I didn't hate on it lol

Im surprised I havent got a :fox yet, hell im surprised seda hasent tagged me yet.
 
Even GXP and SAO held more entertainment value for me then Kickheart, it is truly the worst thing I've ever seen on Toonami old or new. KSK was also pretty bad, but that wasn't a crowd funded animation by a studio I respect. It seemed like a generic AS cartoon that I'd have given no fucks about otherwise.
 
KickHeart gets more hate than it deserves. I thought it was pretty interesting. King Star King on the other hand made me cringe far more than was healthy for my face.
 
I left the thread when the thread spent a week arguing if Killua was gay or not
actually that was hilarious, i'm just super behind in the series
That whole argument was so annoying..they're fictional 12 year old boys for fucks sake. There have been no homoerotic undertones whatsoever between Gon and Killua in the show but that Dan guy with the raccoon avatar was convinced that they're secretly gay. I think he spends too much time on deviantart.
 
Not going to lie, I'm still elated as shit that Kickheart got 0 points! No show is more deserving of a 0 and arguably a 0 is too much for it.

It's like you have a grudge against the anime, the animation style, and the animator behind it. And it's not because you have strong reasoning, but because you don't like the style and think it's unfinished, which doesn't mean anything. It is finished. It's what the artist wanted it to look like. This drives me crazy.

It's like me and my undying hatred of Brotherhood, but really, really bizarre. Kick-Heart is a tiny little niche thing that will only matter to animation nerds. You are literally bullying a tiny little short maybe 5,000 people have seen or bothered to see.

If I talk about how the rough, scribbly animation has a distinct, signature style to it that is loose and energetic, you will simply say "No, it's just unfinished shit that looks like nothing". I could talk about how it's an artist or two being set loose to animate a short however they want, and you would say that someone should have replaced him or he should have lost his job for making this dreck.

This was a Kickstarter project. The fucking thing had TWO key animators! What do you expect? Are you going to go to an animation school and tell the students how much their animation work sucks as well, because they did it by themselves and didn't have a massive team with CG artists and more? This thing had a 200k budget. That's TINY.

Look here.

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This is the main team that made the damn short. Four main people, with several in-betweeners to smooth things out. This is the director, character designer, art director, and two key animators, some filling multiple roles. These four.

Look at some of this rough animation work.

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THAT is what this short was about. It's not about story. It's just a simple love story. It's not about voice work or music or action. It's about the handiwork of the four creative minds on display. It's like a showcase. But that doesn't matter. It's just shit. They should have never picked up a pad. Should have never bothered to use a pencil.
 
THAT is what this short was about. It's not about story. It's just a simple love story. It's not about voice work or music or action. It's about the handiwork of the four creative minds on display. It's like a showcase. But that doesn't matter. It's just shit. They should have never picked up a pad. Should have never bothered to use a pencil.
I've begun writing a few posts just like this one, but then decide it's not worth the effort. And wouldn't you know it:

Likes Kickheart, hates Brotherhood

SMH
 
Should Kickheart receive less criticism because it had a budget of 200k? Because it was only made by 4 people? I don't care what the story behind the creation of the anime is, only what the final product is. Kickheart looks and feels like an unfinished mess that rivals unfinished garbage like Garzey's Wing as the worst anime I've ever seen.

Kickheart was aired on Toonami as a hyped special, I literally had never heard of it until about 4 hours before it aired on the block dude to a few people speculating it could be the surprise. I walked in with no expectations and left offended that my time had been wasted by garbage. I've played amazing games and seen amazing animation done by one or two people with their own pocket change.

And your inability to see the brilliance that is Brotherhood was laughable, your entire argument comes down to "my nostalgia for FMA 03 is on so tight I can't view anything else with objectivity". As someone who experienced both FMA manga, 03 anime, and brotherhood in the past year for the first time the few things 03 does better then the manga/brotherhood I can count on one hand. FMA 03 is still good, but the ending is a complete train wreck and proves that Bones can't write with other people's material. The film CoS was also a massive middle finger to fans of FMA 03 I can't get how people defend it. Being dark just to be dark isn't good writing, it's cheap emotional appeal the same way SAO does.

Edit: Also I'm done derailing this thread with my hate of Kickheart, it's over and I will let my post speak for themselves along with that 0 score it got in the AotY thread. I'm also not in the mood to get into a round and round match about if FMA 03 or Brotherhood is better (it's brotherhood) because it isn't worth the effort.
 
I should annoy demarco to get little witch academia on toonami, that was also done by a small team with a limited budget and everybody loves it because of how much it delivers.
 
You gonn get blocked.
I'll fight the system.
Been meaning to watch that, heard it's pretty good

You really should, if you have a little brother or sister watch it with them, its very wholesome and fun.
the small team is from trigger aka the guys currently doing kill la kill, and who were former emplyees of gainex who worked on panty and stocking, gurren lagann, FLCL, etc. trust me its completely different than those works haha.
 
Should Kickheart receive less criticism because it had a budget of 200k? Because it was only made by 4 people? I don't care what the story behind the creation of the anime is, only what the final product is.
This speaks lengths on your fundamental misunderstanding of how an animation should feel or look like. It also reinforces the unfortunate reality that most fans of anime aren't fans of animation.
 
This speaks lengths on your fundamental misunderstanding of how an animation should feel or look like. It also reinforces the unfortunate reality that most fans of anime aren't fans of animation.
Anime usually has fucking terrible animation (with the exceptions being fleeting and very very noticeable), so it's not like that's a surprise.
 
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