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[Doctor Decimate]

So I finished watching these three Gundam movies.

I mostly like them, but the Newtype stuff feels...shitty? The show seems to just run with it at a certain point, using the fact that it never established a clear understanding or set of rules as an excuse to let them do basically anything, and it seems kinda nonsensical at times, with things like mass telepathic communication just cropping up whenever. It probably does not help that everything with Lalah becomes this pivotal plot point with little build-up; the politics and space battles are fine, but the ill-defined psychic stuff just spirals out of control. Maybe it's a consequence of how the movies were cut (the third is the least successful at disguising its status as cut-together scenes from a TV show), but it really started to bother me the more they leaned into it because it seemed like an obvious crutch.

 

[HStallion]

God damn. Yeah I can't watch this show one ep a week, it's fucking impossible. At the very least Toonami has a great shonen to air for a very long time.

Amazingly enough its filler free too unless they show that one crappy movie.

 

[Man God]

I don't know what Man God has against him. Kurapika is a much better version of Sasuke than the Sasuke he inspired. Oh god Milluki's room, I wonder if he has a HunterGaf account or something.

Crap Puka is bargain basement Sasuke.

 

[Moaradin]

I still haven't seen the two HxH movies. Don't know if I want to. I know one of them at least has a little bit of canon material.

 

[Ray Down]

I still haven't seen the two HxH movies. Don't know if I want to. I know one of them at least has a little bit of canon material.

It doesn't help that neither are good.

 

[JadedWriter]

I still haven't seen the two HxH movies. Don't know if I want to. I know one of them at least has a little bit of canon material.

I've only seen Phantom Rouge. I was very angered by it starring a very powered down Gon and Killua, it was like while the York New arc was going on. I haven't seen the other one though.

 

[cntr]

g'day

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

So I finished watching these three Gundam movies.

I mostly like them, but the Newtype stuff feels...shitty? The show seems to just run with it at a certain point, using the fact that it never established a clear understanding or set of rules as an excuse to let them do basically anything, and it seems kinda nonsensical at times, with things like mass telepathic communication just cropping up whenever. It probably does not help that everything with Lalah becomes this pivotal plot point with little build-up; the politics and space battles are fine, but the ill-defined psychic stuff just spirals out of control. Maybe it's a consequence of how the movies were cut (the third is the least successful at disguising its status as cut-together scenes from a TV show), but it really started to bother me the more they leaned into it because it seemed like an obvious crutch.

That was a reoccuring flaw with the UC that I was not fond of. Writers were handwave characters making irrational decisions or sudden shifts in personality because "they're a newtype."

 

[Mizerman]

I still haven't seen the two HxH movies. Don't know if I want to. I know one of them at least has a little bit of canon material.

I forgot that HxH had movies.

 

[Seda]

From what I've seen of UC, I agree with the Newtype stuff. It's not interesting and it feels like a silly way to make an excuse for whatever they want it to excuse.

"Newtypes" also seems to be introduced pretty late into the original series, like they decided to come up with some tangible reason why Amuro was skilled and that's how they decided to do it mid-airing.

 

[cntr]

yeah, newtypes are pretty much the worst

 

[JadedWriter]

You think Newtype bullshit is weird now then watch the end of Unicorn, CCA and some parts of ZZ. It's almost as bad as stand fuckery.

 

[cntr]

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[Imperial Bishop]

Remember when Frankie Muniz was in the original SAO?

 

[Zonic]

Newtype isn't THAT bad, guys.

I mean, what other monthly magazine is there to get the newest anime & manga updates?

Spoiler

wait, they stopped the US version in 2008? Damn...

 

[cntr]

I prefer reading Oldtype

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

You think Newtype bullshit is weird now then watch the end of Unicorn, CCA and some parts of ZZ. It's almost as bad as stand fuckery.

Especially when Judau starts using fucking Haki on people.

 

[ckohler]

I prefer reading Oldtype

I bet Makanai was an Oldtype.

 

[Unspeakable Evil]

Watched last week's Gundam Unicorn.
Banagher is certainly a protagonist...

 

[Seda]

Man I'm already zoning out, might not be able to watch tonight.

 

[JadedWriter]

Especially when Judau starts using fucking Haki on people.

Him using some sort of spirit titan on Haman was awesome.

 

[YoodiHoshi]

OK, it looks like we've reached the point in the story where the 1999 Hunter X Hunter anime changes openings, so let's go over them.

Opening 1 - The song is nice, but it's very unexpected for an action/adventure show. I know when I started this series after hearing great things about it, I thought I had the wrong show.

And then, opening 2, covering the arc we're about to start. This has a huge tone shift, and demonstrates something interesting the first anime did that the new anime doesn't. It completely shifts the color palette to be darker, reflecting the tone of the arc, giving a real dark and gritty feel to the city. The current anime keeps the same light color scheme.

Dat second OP <3

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

Him using some sort of spirit titan on Haman was awesome.

It was cool, but it was also pretty cheap lol.

Like the writers backed him into a corner with no feasible means of escape, so they pulled that out of their ass, because of course newtypes can also use the force. lol

 

[cntr]

Especially when Judau starts using fucking Haki on people.

but I hope you remember that It's Not Anime

I bet Makanai was an Oldtype.

Makanai was an Ancientype.

 

[Grexeno]

Man I'm already zoning out, might not be able to watch tonight.

You have to watch One Piece live even if you have to do cocaine to get there.

 

[cntr]

Man I'm already zoning out, might not be able to watch tonight.

stand up and scream like you're attempting to go Super Saiyan

the neighbours coming to check if you're okay will keep you awake

 

[Crimson_Echidna]

but I hope you remember that It's Not Anime

ZZ was the Truth lol.

 

[Moaradin]

Man I'm already zoning out, might not be able to watch tonight.

Well, you aren't watching Unicorn so you might be fine.

 

[JadedWriter]

Normally I'd ask this in the manga or anime thread, but those tend to be dead af. I'm watching the 1999 version of York New and well...shit's different. I'm wondering which is more manga accurate.

Spoiler

I'm watching a scene where hunters tried to kill Gon's animal friend Gonta and Gon and Killua are arguing about saving the cub.

 

[RandomExpletive]

Got confused by the Super OP, forgot we're still on episode like... 7?

 

[Zonic]

That is correct, Super is episode 7 tonight.

 

[cntr]

The 2011 Madhouse version of HxH is almost 1:1 with the manga, the Pierrot 1999 version changes a lot of crap.

that's why the 2011 version got made at all

 

[Moaradin]

Normally I'd ask this in the manga or anime thread, but those tend to be dead af. I'm watching the 1999 version of York New and well...shit's different. I'm wondering which is more manga accurate.

Spoiler

I'm watching a scene where hunters tried to kill Gon's animal friend Gonta and Gon and Killua are arguing about saving the cub.

Pretty sure that is anime only filler. 1999 series has a bit of that, though the foxbear shows up in the first chapter of the manga and a later flashback in the 2011 anime.

 

[Morlas]

*is jealous of everyone watching JoJo live tonight*

 

[Mizerman]

Man I'm already zoning out, might not be able to watch tonight.

At least it's not GXP.

 

[the_sun_king]

And then, opening 2, covering the arc we're about to start.

Man, it's gonna be weird watching Yorkshin without "Taiyou wa Yoru mo Kagayaku" playing in the beginning.

Also, "Hotaru".

The 1999 series has the newer one beat when it comes to OP & ED themes imo.

 

[JadedWriter]

The 2011 Madhouse version of HxH is almost 1:1 with the manga, the Pierrot 1999 version changes a lot of crap.

that's why the 2011 version got made at all

Why does it seem like Pierrot stopped knowing how to adapt a manga after YYH? Makes sense though. The 2011 version seems to have much better pacing, but at the same time the 1999 version didn't sanitize the HxH world as much.

 

[cntr]

The 1999 version might have better OPs, but you can't beat Hunting For Your Dream, yo.

Why does it seem like Pierrot stopped knowing how to adapt a manga after YYH? Makes sense though. The 2011 version seems to have much better pacing, but at the same time the 1999 version didn't sanitize the HxH world as much.

Aside from a few weird instances early on, the 2011 version doesn't really sanitize anything. It's about as violent as the manga.

 

[Man God]

Zeta pretty much ends with one guy using a newtype power of friendship (harem) ghost beam while another person uses a newtype turn you into a vegetable attack so it started before ZZ.

The best UC OVA has practically zero newtype nonsense. 0080.

The first non UC show pretty much doesn't have them though a couple of people have light psychic powers and Allenby is analogous with cyber newtypes.

Most of the rest of the non UC shows has versions of newtypes. X features them heavily because it is more or less a UC what if. There's a bare handful of newtype like people in SEED like the protagonist and Mwu La Flaga (and various clones) AGE has them, they're just called X Rounders and are even more annoying. There's basically one newtype in 00 and he turns into a Gundam lizard metal man.

 

[Moaradin]

Yeah the 2011 anime becomes less censored than the 1999 anime as it goes on.

 

[cntr]

G and IBO don't have any Newtypes either, and X is kind of special because the show goes out of its way to make the main protagonist not be a Newtype, he's a normal human through the entire series

 

[JadedWriter]

Aside from a few weird instances early on, the 2011 version doesn't really sanitize anything. It's about as violent as the manga.

So Pierrot over stated the violence? 2011 version didn't start getting fugged up till

Spoiler

Chimera Ants and towards the end of Greed Island

.

 

[Moaradin]

So Pierrot over stated the violence? 2011 version didn't start getting fugged up till

Spoiler

Chimera Ants and towards the end of Greed Island

.

I think you're forgetting some shit that happens in Yorknew lol

 

[cntr]

yeah uh, Yorknew was always pretty bloody

e: and in fact as far as I know, it's the 1999 version that's more censored than the 2011

 

[Neoxon]

Neoxon checking in!

My folks have friends over, so I'm gonna have to keep the hype at a minimum.

 

[JadedWriter]

I think you're forgetting some shit that happens in Yorknew lol

It's been a bit and my memory is pretty god damn bad so point taken.

yeah uh, Yorknew was always pretty bloody

e: and in fact as far as I know, it's the 1999 version that's more censored than the 2011

But that last part goes against what everybody likes to complain about regarding the 2011 series.

 

[Grexeno]

Hey wait this is literally the Flying Dutchman from Spongebob.

 

[BatDan]

Alright, 90 minutes of Toonami.

 

[cntr]

But that last part goes against what everybody likes to complain about regarding the 2011 series.

There's a few weird scenes early on, but overall the 2011 is a lot less censored, especially from Yorknew onwards

 

[mightynine]

Whoo-hoo! I didn't fall asleep before Toonami this week! Let's do this.