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Toonami |May14| Toonami just got a lot Cooler
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BassForever
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That place was already built? Hmm.
Welcome to attack on titan where
the answers to your questions lead to more questions
Attack on titan: Eren's mom gets eaten in front of him, armin's parents are killed by titans and his grandfather dies on what is basically a suicide mission, and we still have more of the cast to reveal
Bleach: Ichigo's mom was killed by a hollow, orihime's parents are dead? And her brother died/became a hollow. Forgot about chad's and (manga spoilers)
uriyu's was killed due to being a half blood quincy
Naruto: Naruto's parents were killed by the 9 tails, sasuke's were killed by itachi, gaara killed his when he was born
Space Dandy: Dandy's family is unknown, meow's is alive, qt is a robot
One Piece: Luffy actually breaks this trope due to his mom being unknown spoilers
and his dad being alive and the worlds greatest criminal who
Blue Exorcist: Mom died in child birth, adoptive father killed by biological father, end game is beating the shit out of biological father
Black Lagoon: I don't think we know about any of the character's childhoods besides Revi and I don't think they specified if her parents were killed or if she was abanonded (guessing the later)
Beware the batman: batman's parents are always dead
Fmab: mom is dead, dad "left" them
Samurai Jack: I recall Jack's dad dying but I think his mother was still alive? Either way in the future both are dead
Clone Wars: Anakin's mom died in the events leading up to the clone wars
Sbt: don't think they ever specificed if the mom was dead for Illana or Lance, former's dad is captured laters is "missing/dead"
Oh watch brave and bold then gxp is TERRIBAD
You forgot Usopp's dad, who is still alive and working with Shanks.
But yeah, having read the AoT manga up to the current point, there's still a ton of unanswered questions.
Unspeakable Evil
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Pretty sure Eren has gone insane.
BassForever
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I didn't want to get into every single character because then we'd have things like Zoro's parents being unknown, chopper's biological parents being unknown, etc etc and that 2x for people who have died hence the blanket statement
Attack on Titan - Love that opening. The show does a good job realizing the utter hopelessness of their situation. All of the old guards being complete inept dicks is cliche though and clearly only there to give Eren a reason to aspire to be greater. That armored titan was badass but when the time skip occurred I wondered how they survived.
Bleach - Still enjoying this new Bleach. The tone of the series feels fresh and interesting. Ichigo's boss was kinda funny but too much of a one note character. Orihime was adorable and I felt bad when she was shut down by an oblivious and uninterested Ichigo. Even if Ichigo wasn't interested in her, he could have at least smiled and made her feel appreciated instead of being completely oblivious to the situation.
Space Dandy - Dumb episode is dumb. Mildly funny but mostly just dumb.
Naruto: Shippuden - Does this show ever get good enough to merit its reputation for being popular? It's so slow. DBZ levels of slow. And stupid. Now they are fighting clones? Let's spend 5 minutes if exposition explaining in detail the exact situation in excruciating detail. That should waist more time. The animation is also bad. People like this show?
One Piece - Not much happened. I liked the giant marine guy.
Blue Exorcist - Meh. Not a great episode but still watchable. Lots of fan service. When hoodie dude spoke with a female voice I realized what was going to happen. Moeblob has no character arc. So far, she's just in perpetual innocent waifu mode. In fact, almost all the characters have no clear arc except my favorite character, tsundere girl, who seems to at least be on the road to leaning how to have real friends. This new enemy is goofy and like someone said, it's hard to take them seriously as a threat.
Black Lagoon - Mostly a prelude to what is sure to be an epic fight. Like I said last night, I hope this Roberta knocks Revy down a peg. She's being too cocky. Picking on little kids? Dutch is right, Revy is being a bully. Also, that chick isn't really going to be a robot from the future, right?!
Beware the Batman - Well, it wasn't terrible. It was just kind meh. Those villains were stupid and not threatening at all. I like the premise of this being early in the career of Batman but Alfred's voice doesn't fit. He's too young looking and sounding. I'll give the show a some more attempts to draw me in.
Naruto - I'm not a fan of this franchise but that episode was fantastic. Great in every respect: animation, music, dialog, pacing, characters... Everything. If all of Naruto was like this episode it would have been a wonderful series.
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Great episode; as good as I remembered it. I love the strong, confident, and believable female characters in this series. It's hard to think of another anime that does women as much service as this one does.
I tuned out after that.
The bread gifs were a bit over the top (but still hilarious). The rest is just good fun. Nothing wrong with people fawning over characters. Maybe. Just tone it down a smidge. In fact, if we had any fans who wanted to fawn over male characters I'd welcome that. If anything, it's just too one sided right now. What bothered me tonight was that there was too much real-time hinting.
Bleach - Still enjoying this new Bleach. The tone of the series feels fresh and interesting. Ichigo's boss was kinda funny but too much of a one note character. Orihime was adorable and I felt bad when she was shut down by an oblivious and uninterested Ichigo. Even if Ichigo wasn't interested in her, he could have at least smiled and made her feel appreciated instead of being completely oblivious to the situation.
Space Dandy - Dumb episode is dumb. Mildly funny but mostly just dumb.
Naruto: Shippuden - Does this show ever get good enough to merit its reputation for being popular? It's so slow. DBZ levels of slow. And stupid. Now they are fighting clones? Let's spend 5 minutes if exposition explaining in detail the exact situation in excruciating detail. That should waist more time. The animation is also bad. People like this show?
One Piece - Not much happened. I liked the giant marine guy.
Blue Exorcist - Meh. Not a great episode but still watchable. Lots of fan service. When hoodie dude spoke with a female voice I realized what was going to happen. Moeblob has no character arc. So far, she's just in perpetual innocent waifu mode. In fact, almost all the characters have no clear arc except my favorite character, tsundere girl, who seems to at least be on the road to leaning how to have real friends. This new enemy is goofy and like someone said, it's hard to take them seriously as a threat.
Black Lagoon - Mostly a prelude to what is sure to be an epic fight. Like I said last night, I hope this Roberta knocks Revy down a peg. She's being too cocky. Picking on little kids? Dutch is right, Revy is being a bully. Also, that chick isn't really going to be a robot from the future, right?!
Beware the Batman - Well, it wasn't terrible. It was just kind meh. Those villains were stupid and not threatening at all. I like the premise of this being early in the career of Batman but Alfred's voice doesn't fit. He's too young looking and sounding. I'll give the show a some more attempts to draw me in.
Naruto - I'm not a fan of this franchise but that episode was fantastic. Great in every respect: animation, music, dialog, pacing, characters... Everything. If all of Naruto was like this episode it would have been a wonderful series.
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Great episode; as good as I remembered it. I love the strong, confident, and believable female characters in this series. It's hard to think of another anime that does women as much service as this one does.
I tuned out after that.
The bread gifs were a bit over the top (but still hilarious). The rest is just good fun. Nothing wrong with people fawning over characters. Maybe. Just tone it down a smidge. In fact, if we had any fans who wanted to fawn over male characters I'd welcome that. If anything, it's just too one sided right now. What bothered me tonight was that there was too much real-time hinting.
Chopper's parents are raccoon dogs. They aren't important.
Unspeakable Evil
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Seems like the Titans are the ones who are doing the attacking so far....
Unspeakable Evil
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Blue Exorcist is giving me a really indifferent feeling. I don't like or dislike the characters. They're just there
Same, there's been nothing compelling about the show so far. The fact we're so far in makes that very troubling for me. There's nothing keeping me watching except you guys and the promise of Black Lagoon afterwards.
Unspeakable Evil
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Gotta keep viewers attention somehow
Like I mentioned last night around Naruto time, I was being social last night and played MH from the second Boondocks episode until One Piece (and made popcorn for my friend so ended up being time delayed until the end of Black Lagoon, which makes posting pointless) so lay it on me, how rough was AoT and Bleach? I obviously know what happens in Space Dandy and Shippuden, though I'll watch them both anyways.
I don't think that's what he meant :lol
Dominican Power
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I'm mad they don't show the bumpers.
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From Funimation:
Glad to see Mitzi there. She has to put up with so much shit haha.
I probably just need to lighten up, more fun to just go with the flow anyway.
This feels like those genies that misconstrue your wishes if your aren't especially specific.
From Funimation:
My favorite Bulma mother moment is when she brought a baby to an Android invasion.
Good thing you didn't wish for back story then :lol
Unspeakable Evil
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Anime plot genie? What could go wrong?
Where were you last night
I fell asleep during Shippuden, no lie.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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The Sasori fight in Shippuden isn't terrible. It has one pretty good sequence near the end, and Sasori's backstory isn't bad. Everything else, awful. Then the arc afterwards is shitty filler (Shippuden has a full arc of filler after every plot arc, get used to it), and then next we finally get to the arc leading up to the very first scene of Shippuden, and it manages to be utterly awful thanks to atrocious pacing and using the same flashback as if the audience has ADHD and short term memory loss.
So no. Shippuden doesn't ever "get good." Some arcs are just much less shitty than others, though the first few are especially bad.
So no. Shippuden doesn't ever "get good." Some arcs are just much less shitty than others, though the first few are especially bad.
TheAbsolution
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Is it wrong that I would prefer Space Dandy's OP than AoT's?
Hey now,
Sasuke's fight with Itachi
Too far away though.
I didn't think there was any filler between the first and second Shippuden arcs? Google says the first filler arc is 57-70.
That said, I do agree that the Sasori fight "isn't terrible" and that the second canon arc is "utterly awful".
And then after that filler arc is the Immortals Arc, which is the best Shipppuden has to offer in my opinion.
The first two Shippuden arcs have no filler. The first filler arc is after the next arc, before the third canon arc. Then they start the filler/canon switch off.
So what's the draw? Why does it have such a passionate following? It has to be more than the stereotypical "weeabo otakus have bad taste." Are fans of Naruto just content to see their favorite characters doing anything, even if it's painfully boring? Is it some kind of brand loyalty?
It only feels like filler because of how long it's stretched out.
EDIT: The second canon arc of Shippuden has stopped me cold THREE TIMES. I've made it halfway through twice and completed it once, only to give up immediately after.
Snacks the sober sea lion
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It's further along, I thought it was after this arc.
Hidan and Kakuzu are the best of all of Shippuden. No constant sad backstories, no stalling bullshit, plenty of Shikamaru and Kakashi, and enemies who are "immortal" without it being some OP bullshit, a trait Kishimoto clearly forgot how to implement later on.
I have no idea. The side characters all get shafted, Sasuke gets his ass kicked or has to rely someone else's power in every fight, Naruto continues to only use two techniques (Shadow Clone and Rasengan). The only good things I can think of are some of the Akatsuki members have interesting abilities, the soundtrack is good, and there's plenty of Kakashi and Jiraiya.
Unspeakable Evil
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Too bad Gaara died. The sand village is terrible anyways
Well, to be fair, I don't think even Naruto fans care much for the first slog of Shippuden. At least I don't think so. I've never seen anyone praise the Kazakage Rescue (the one we're watching) or the second arc (which I guess is called Sasuke and Sai arc?). Usually they bring up the
Itachi, Immortals (Hidan/Kakuzu), or Pain arcs
I could be wrong though.
Unspeakable Evil
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Naruto fans probably just read the Manga and watch the show to see their favorite parts animated
edit: Because that's what I do.
edit: Because that's what I do.
I am not looking forward to watching it again.
It still relies on flashbacks a bit too much, but the pacing is much better (it's a much shorter arc) and it's structured well. (vague spoilers)
One of the Akatsuki defeats is very satisfying. No never-give-up powers, no check-out-my-new-jutsu, no talk-no-jutsu, no gaining the upper hand because someone is angry -- just using observations and past encounters to out-maneuver the enemy to obtain the victory.
I'm quite interested in seeing the the upcoming arcs only because some of the fights would probably be pretty awesome animated. I'm not going to go out of my way to watch them in my free time though. I have long given up on catching up with Naruto for many reasons that outweigh the "cool" factor of some of the fights.
Besides, there's always rewatching One Piece. Like I just sat through the 2nd half of the Arlong arc. So good how the arc comes together and while you get some of the "friendship" talk, it's well mixed in with both action and weight behind the meaning of friendship. Speaking of, you should totally watch this amv that'll get you pumped for more One Piece (no spoilers for the Toonami crowd as the latest scene is from early in Water 7).
Let me just mention that I'm glad that Toonami picked up One Piece. I didn't look forward to marathonning 200 episodes, and there are a few things about the show that I don't gel with all too much (Usopp in general, Luffy's moronic tendencies, some other things revolving around Pluton) but it's incredibly cohesive for a long running shounen. It's great how plot elements are sprinkled in early before they become the forefront on the narrative, and how multiple plot threads are handled in general. Oda clearly makes an effort to make sure new plot details 'fit' with past details. There are still events from before they traveled to the grand line (or around Alabasta) that I look forward to seeing the next step in how they progress, like Captain Smoker's pursuit of the Straw Hats or Zoro's confrontation with Mihawk. No new arc feels tacked on or unnecessary. Whereas competing stories tend to oddly twist and turn at times, snaking around odd plot twists, One Piece has a flow to it that's quite a bit more natural. I said this before but I think focusing on a 'crew' that's largely consistent helps a lot too.
No. Different strokes for different folks
8pm the watch continues!
BassForever
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I'll admit I like Vida Namida better then Titan's song, but I personally feel that the BIG premier that leads off the block should have its full premier always regardless of what the show is, it just starts Toonami off on the right foot, just like Tom pressing the button and saying a really bad joke or general excitement comment.
I think it's simplest just to keep his "first show gets the full open", yeah. No room for subjective 'the best openings should be the full ones'.
That's the best explanation I've heard assuming the manga is pretty good.
Agreed. Toonami should be leading their block with their "star" show and that show should get the full OP treatment. I'm not sure why Black Lagoon gets full OP, ED and preview, though. Are the episodes so short, it's easy? It's so arbitrary.
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