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[LiquidMetal14]

I think it's really all about the orginaziers. Make it clear what kind of behaviour is tolerated and such behaviour (mostly) disapears - there is money on the line after all.

I agree, the sponsors and folk who put these together have a responsibility but it doesn't change the fact that these players behave in that manner.

It's only a glimpse into the reality that exists right now in your typical CoD match.

 

[Loxley]

Competition brings out the worst in people, film at 11.

*edit - My favorite TF2 rage video.

 

[Bleepey]

They sound even more ridiculous than my 13-year old brother.

This. Word for word.

 

[Kun Aguero]

I can't stop laughing at the skinny kid @ 1.05, arms outstretched "c'mon" then takes his glasses off...lol

 

[patapuf]

I agree, the sponsors and folk who put these together have a responsibility but it doesn't change the fact that these players behave in that manner.

It's only a glimpse into the reality that exists right now in your typical CoD match.

But it's also something that exists in pretty much every competitive environment.

Respecting your opponent is something that needs to be cultivated and, sadly, enforced for those that won't do it otherwise.

 

[Trey]

The elitism from fans of golfclap esports and KB/M users is weird. It's just video games.

 

[marrec]

But it's also something that exists in pretty much every competitive environment.

Respecting your opponent is something that needs to be cultivated and, sadly, enforced for those that won't do it otherwise.

I don't think the trash talk (poor quality as it is) is representative of how they actually feel about their opponents.

It would be nice if this kind of thing was more regulated so it wouldn't be a cringe fest to watch. It's hard enough watching DOTA 2 matches when the commentary gets bad.

 

[Overdoziz]

To be fair, the commentators of Starcraft saying "GeeGee" every time is more cringe worthy than this.

 

[thesuperfunk]

Oh dear ...

 

[old manatee]

To be fair, the commentators of Starcraft saying "GeeGee" every time is more cringe worthy than this.

I say geegee at the end of every Dota match no matter how beegee it is.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

But it's also something that exists in pretty much every competitive environment.

Respecting your opponent is something that needs to be cultivated and, sadly, enforced for those that won't do it otherwise.

Let's single it out to sports - If someone does or says something unethical, there is repercussions. In the serious competitive environment of sports, there is a standard held. You can't even tweet the wrong things these days or you may face a fine.

Athletes are looked up upon so they have a moral obligation.

These kids in the video are also on a platform where they are viewed and the behavior comes and goes as if it's ok or the behavior is expected. There should be a briefing on how to act and not bring out their inner 5 year old in a sponsored tournament.

 

[TheD]

The elitism from fans of golfclap esports and KB/M users is weird. It's just video games.

It is not elitism to point out that this does not happen in games like SC2!

Acting like shit flinging monkeys is never OK in tournaments and is not OK elsewhere!

 

[Pitmonkey]

I watched the MLG Call of Duty Dallas event all last weekend, I assure you it was NOTHING like this, what so ever. Although there was nearly a fist fight at the UMG10K event at the end of last year.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the...ers-need-to-step-their-game-up-professionally

 

[patapuf]

I don't think the trash talk (poor quality as it is) is representative of how they actually feel about their opponents.

It would be nice if this kind of thing was more regulated so it wouldn't be a cringe fest to watch. It's hard enough watching DOTA 2 matches when the commentary gets bad.

I don't think these players are horrible people, but they do have horrible sportsmanship. Trashtalking is part of sports/competition but when it detracts from the actual match it's out of hand imo.

Let's single it out to sports - If someone does or says something unethical, there is repercussions. In the serious competitive environment of sports, there is a standard held. You can't even tweet the wrong things these days or you may face a fine.

Athletes are looked up upon so they have a moral obligation.

These kids in the video are also on a platform where they are viewed and the behavior comes and goes as if it's ok or the behavior is expected. There should be a briefing on how to act and not bring out their inner 5 year old in a sponsored tournament.

agreed. And to be fair, in most big e-sports competitions it is not a problem.

 

[derFeef]

Looks like they are just playing so they can stand up after every round and scream at each other.

 

[LtOrange]

Wow that was just disturbing.

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

I watched the MLG Call of Duty Dallas event all last weekend, I assure you it was NOTHING like this, what so ever.

A lot of the behaviour in the video is not encouraged at MLG because of the potential risk of losing sponsors and funding on the part of the organizers and getting kicked out, suspended or banned for the players. Obviously this tournament doesn't have those rules in place or anyone to do anything about them being broken.

 

[maniac-kun]

Wow. Didnt expect that. And there are realy pro console fps players? Wow.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Please, vilifying this behavior is my main point. It's not ok since this is how these people act. Many of us have witnessed this behavior in our own personal games. It's something which you always hear about but you see it before you in that video. To see them say that it's all for show is a bad excuse. This is the behavior of your typical console shooter affionado. I've heard it and seen it and it's also on PC but as I said initially, consoles are a lot more accessible so you definitely notice it there more.

Also, why so aggressive in tone? The conversation calls for a little more levity. Let's get along!

Where am I being aggressive?

I understand where you guys are coming from but I just feel that the very fact this is the same behavior you have experienced in games suggests that it is a bad idea to focus on the players rather than in game action. This isn't a professional sport where a player has trained in acedemy and has had mentors to teach them how to behave on the pitch. These are the cream of the console playing crop attempting to prove their peers they are the best and win large sums of money in the process. It's only natural they will bring the habits that they exhibited while playing the console game along for the ride.


I'm just not seeing how anyone can expect them to behave different.

 

[Loxley]

I watched the MLG Call of Duty Dallas event all last weekend, I assure you it was NOTHING like this, what so ever. Although there was nearly a fist fight at the UMG10K event at the end of last year.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the...ers-need-to-step-their-game-up-professionally

Was about to say the same thing. I've watched CoD, Gears and Halo MLG tournaments on and off over the last few years and there's nothing like this at all.

MLG must have some pretty strict "No trash talking" rules. When the players talk, they're doing nothing but strategizing.

 

[marrec]

I don't think these players are horrible people, but they do have horrible sportsmanship. Trashtalking is part of sports/competition but when it detracts from the actual match it's out of hand imo.

They probably chose this video because it's not actually a showcase of every top level E-Sports match.

Dat vertical slice.

As a 'sport' though, e-sports will never go anywhere if even a small percentage of it's players are swearing and bravado filled babies.

*looks at Soccer*

Oh wait...

 

[R2D4]

The only thing I've gotten out of watching MLG Call of Duty is trying to stay awake during it. Maybe it's because they play the shittiest game types. Demo? Search and Destroy? ZZZzzzzzz

 

[SolidSnakex]

Was about to say the same thing. I've watched CoD, Gears and Halo MLG tournaments on and off over the last few years and there's nothing like this at all.

MLG must have some pretty strict "No trash talking rules". When the players talk, they're doing nothing but strategizing.

This just reflects more on the tournament and its organizers than the CoD "scence" or how console players act. If you let language and trash talk like that to go unchecked then people will act like that. Especially when you're dealing with instant reward games like CoD.

 

[Splint]

Its kinda funny because you have all you guys (casuals?) who are hating on the (super-hardcore) guys having the time of their lives- playing COD. Once one guy starts yelling, it changes the tune of the whole place (which didnt look real "top-level") and everyone starts yelling and having a fun time. Thats just how humans are, and this could be any game/sport in the world.

COD doesnt take much skill and I hate the game for killing other FPS games, but it takes strategy and teamwork (Im guessing), or else you wouldnt have teams winning all the time.

Ive played high level console and PC and both take same amount of skill, tbh. Aiming with your mouse isnt that hard, its actually much easier.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Where am I being aggressive?

I understand where you guys are coming from but I just feel that the very fact this is the same behavior you have experienced in games suggests that it is a bad idea to focus on the players rather than in game action. This isn't a professional sport where a player has trained in acedemy and has had mentors to teach them how to behave on the pitch. These are the cream of the console playing crop attempting to prove their peers they are the best and win large sums of money in the process. It's only natural they will bring the habits that they exhibited while playing the console game along for the ride.


I'm just not seeing how anyone can expect them to behave different.

I was giving you hell for swearing but in a nice way. No issue.

I do expect more "professionalism" in these tournaments though. There's a big difference between the players involved and the observers who may spit out drunken banter.

As others have said, there are other tournaments which have behaved entirely within the bounds of responsibility so I still put the higher blame on the sponsors or event holders.

 

[RedNalgene]

This is exactly why I mute everyone except my friends whenever I play CoD. Makes for a much more enjoyable game.

 

[Robso]

How embarrassing.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Call of Duty is utterly boring to watch so I guess this injects some of excitement.

 

[Pikawil]

The need to remake The Wizard but based around this competition.

"California....you ******* *****!!!"

No, they need to remake the first arc of Sword Art Online but every character acts like the players in this competition.

 

[Nibel]

Competition brings out the worst in people, film at 11.

*edit - My favorite TF2 rage video.

/dead

 

[Overdoziz]

I say geegee at the end of every Dota match no matter how beegee it is.

Just say "good game". ;-;

 

[Ingueferroque]

Absolutely pathetic video.

 

[marrec]

Just say "good game". ;-;

The only things I say when playing DOTA 2:

glhf

ggwp

What's wrong with gg?

 

[DiegoPonga]

Competitive shooters with gamepads... LOL

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

The only things I say when playing DOTA 2:

glhf

ggwp

What's wrong with gg?

gg is slang for "gg fuckin' noob."

 

[MIMIC]

I can't watch the video in the OP at work (damn job finally blocked non-educational YouTube videos) but it sounds hilarious. Can't wait to see.

 

[marrec]

gg is slang for "gg fuckin' noob."

Uhh...

It just say silly if you say it out loud.

That I agree with. Most DOTA 2 commentators will say 'Good game' as in:

That's it, good game, wrap it up.

Some do say 'GEE GEE' though and it's annoying as fuck.

 

[Overdoziz]

The only things I say when playing DOTA 2:

glhf

ggwp

What's wrong with gg?

It just sounds silly if you say it out loud.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

gg is slang for "gg fuckin' noob."

GG = Good Game.

 

[Archie]

gg is slang for "gg fuckin' noob."

gg is the equivalent of a handshake at the end of a regular sports game.

 

[Str0ngStyle]

Couldn't even finish watching, what a bunch of frustrated little pricks.

I made it about a minute in before I was like "fuck this. Back to homework." You're competing "professionally" for money and sponsorships and this is how you act?

C'mon son

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I agree, saying GG is like the kids these days saying "OMG" or "TTYL" out loud. Good games is enough for me but I don't even say that. I usually say what I would say in the real world. Things like "that was fun" or "great match". If you're lucky enough to even get me to talk on the mic that means you've become a decent enough friend for me to even use voice.

I don't mean to make myself sound self centered but if I'm going to end up talking to people I want to make sure they are mature enough. I never associate myself with the aggressive loud annoying players.

If I mute someone then that's basically the last time they may ever hear me. If I hit it off, I may chat more on the side on mumble or Steam chat.

I know I'm going off on a tangent but I hate it when some on the forums act hard or tough and put a face on but then you see them in chat and are sort of normal. Be yourself - not some persona you like to be known for online. It kind of goes in parallel to what I mentioned on voice chat. People put on a face or are annoying online and may not be like that outside of games.

If you hold yourself up to a standard at work or anywhere outside of games then uphold those values online.

 

[Pitmonkey]

For the record, this video is making its rounds and making it quick in the CoD comp scene. The response from players is generally the same from both NA and EU players - There needs to be rules to enforce players to not act like this.

 

[OceanBlue]

I will never understand esports and the need to feel legitimized. If you have a problem with how high-placing players act, beat them in tournament.

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

GG = Good Game.

gg is the equivalent of a handshake at the end of a regular sports game.

It hasn't meant that since e-sports went XTREME.

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

sounds about right for the cod crowd. good lord...

 

[IHaveIce]

Was about to say the same thing. I've watched CoD, Gears and Halo MLG tournaments on and off over the last few years and there's nothing like this at all.

MLG must have some pretty strict "No trash talking" rules. When the players talk, they're doing nothing but strategizing.

THere is and was trashtalking at MLG, at least for Halo and CoD, but like you said, yes MLG has some pretty strict rules what you are allowed to say.

 

[SneakyStephan]

COD and dota are the toilets of gaming.

GG = Good Game.

Depends on the community and game.

In mmos like wow it usually was used sarcastically (and did mean noob) or to express frustration when someone did something wrong and the team would lose/wipe.

In LoL it is said every single game (well when I tried it) even if one team wiped the floor with the others, it was an empty word there. (I guess that makes it like a handshake in tennis)

In other games I've seen it used only when it was in fact a good game for both sides.

 

[mxgt]

Why is CoD even an e-sport? the game takes no skill whatsoever, especially on console where it almost aims for you.

 

[ThankeeSai]

Wow.

What a bunch of twats.