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un33dab@dpu$$y
Yeah, they did slightly improve it with a patch or two, but it still crashed pretty consistently and still ran like shit with long load times. I wouldn't hold out hope of this being any better
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Torment: Tides of Numenera Review Thread
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Yeah, they did slightly improve it with a patch or two, but it still crashed pretty consistently and still ran like shit with long load times. I wouldn't hold out hope of this being any better
When I was a broke console only gamer I salivated over PC stuff like this. It's a good thing for these games to have cheap console ports. And the ui and controller work down for consoles also benefits the pc version.
But it seems like the console versions needed more time in the oven. Day 1 console ports seem like they were too much for the dev.
But it seems like the console versions needed more time in the oven. Day 1 console ports seem like they were too much for the dev.
Did Wasteland 2 ever end up in a playable state on PS4?
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
I would buy this but it isn't up on PSN just yet. I keep checking every half hour but no dice.
The Last Wizard
Member
It'll be up when the store updates. Really bad oversight not having the game up for pre order.
His Majesty
Banned
It wasn't a switch. They presented an initial vision with turn-based combat, gave an explanation to the community as to why and gave them even a poll about it to get conformation.
Where does this narrative come from? Do you think McComb is some moustache-twirling villain who went "How can I ruin this game for the old guard? Eureka! Turn-based combat, the very bane of intelligent fighting systems. Brilliant. And in fact, I will even sell it to them as a supposed 'improvement'. Muhaha!
Now, which Stretch-Goals and Localization to cut first . . . "
Well, I fell for it.I know, it's just a joke
No, just incompetent.
Amibguous Cad
Member
cdkeys.com has it for $26, http://www.cdkeys.com/pc/games/torment-tides-of-numenera-pc-steam-cd-key
I'm surprised the reviews are only above average. Maybe it doesn't hang together as a plot as time goes on, or maybe the rushed ending just ruins everything, but I can at least say this: the first 5 hours of Numenara is better than the first five hours of Planescape, and it's not a hard call. This one's gonna be up there for my games of the year
Lister
Banned
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Oh yeah you're right... that's why I didn't grab it in end
too bad...What about Divinity Original Sin?
His Majesty
Banned
84 is only above average?
fact is that it's a niche type of game that not everyone and the strongest criticism is aimed at the combat, something most people who care about this game do not care about so strongly
Review averages that hit the mid-80s are more than solid, especially for genres without a huge presence at this point.
Also, dayum @ that price.
really disappointed that the combat sounds like it is still as ass as planescape tbh, i was hoping that 20 years later we could at least improve that characteristic of the game. love the idea of worldbuilding and whatnot but picking fights and relentless murder is the way i enjoy playing these crpgs
Sad Affleck
Member
Review in english from a greek site: 60 / 100
http://ragequit.gr/reviews/item/torment-tides-of-numenera-pc-review-english
They were not fans.
http://ragequit.gr/reviews/item/torment-tides-of-numenera-pc-review-english
They were not fans.
His Majesty
Banned
name checks out
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
I didnt remember I backed this, so its a nice surprise to have.
If the characters and stories are nice, I will be happy.
If the characters and stories are nice, I will be happy.
Fitting for a site called rage quit though.
cleveridea
Member
Well this is confusing, US Gamer says
But IGN says
But IGN says
I think the former is talking about the total amount of combat, whereas the latter is about the composition of combat encounters? Or maybe IGN just didn't realize you can avoid most of the combat.
Might depend on choices. I got stuck in a fight early on during the beta period, but I looked in the strategy guide to get an early idea of how dynamic things can be and you can just trick them to avoid it.
cleveridea
Member
GMG has the game for $38.29 right now (VIP, ie login)
cleveridea
Member
How good & detailed is the strategy guide? Sounds like it would be useful though its a big price jump to the edition with the guide
eyeball_kid
Member
Which is the sign of a good pen and paper game. It's strange, because at some point CRPGs drifted away from this idea of situational choices and made combat a foregone conclusion. Probably because it was easier to code, and then it just became a fixture of the genre. It's nice to see actual role playing make a return.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
It's up now on PSN.
Jawmuncher
Member
I'm amazed this came to xbox. Was at gamestop and had to stop for a second when I saw it on the shelf.
Sounds like about what I expected. Flawed but interesting game. Sounds like it leans a little too heavily on weirdness for the sake of it and lore-dumps, which as I get older, I'm really losing patience for. I'll probably check this out down the line once it's on sale, though, I love a good CRPG but in some cases they just ask so much of the player in terms of getting involved in the lore and story.
Which is kind of funny, because for all it's craziness, the original Planescape kind of.... didn't do that. There was a lot to pursue and dig into if you were interested in, of course, but on the surface it was just a good-ass character-driven adventure story.
Which is kind of funny, because for all it's craziness, the original Planescape kind of.... didn't do that. There was a lot to pursue and dig into if you were interested in, of course, but on the surface it was just a good-ass character-driven adventure story.
graywolf323
Member
I backed it on Kickstarter and will pick up the PS4 version down the road when they've patched it (and it goes on sale)
pretty excited to play this I might actually try to run it on my late 2013 model MacBook Pro
pretty excited to play this
I might actually try to run it on my late 2013 model MacBook ProHis Majesty
Banned
He's referring to the commitment required to get involved in said stories. Making engaging with the story on any level depend on hacking your way through lore-dumps will turn some people off if they only really care about character-driven drama for instance. Not a bad thing necessarily, just a design choice. Witcher 3 for instance has a fair amount of lore but is very "character first" in presentation.
Saying this as someone who fucking loves a good lore-dump. Rub that opaque metaphysics all over my face.
His Majesty
Banned
You're right about TW3 being a character story first and it helps that it is set in a 'relatively' grounded universe that is immediately recognisable for most players.
Guy looking for his daughter is a lot easier to get involved with than body-shifting techno-wizard.
Guy looking for his daughter is a lot easier to get involved with than body-shifting techno-wizard.
Video review from Karak, the bearded shaman of gamin'.
Torment: Tides of Numenera Review "Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?"
Torment: Tides of Numenera Review "Buy, Wait for Sale, Rent, Never Touch?"
pete_clarf
Member
This game really does sound awesome, but my backlog is just too big. I've added it to my Amazon wishlist so I don't forget about it, though. I'll definitely pick it up when I have time for it or when I see it for a good price!
TW3's story is not noteworthy. Any reviewer that compares Torment's story to it should be dismissed outright.
On Tides, I think it just comes down to one thing: exposition.
Good stories create worlds through inference, implication, not exposition. RPGs, especially ones that don't use full VA, can easily fall into the exposition dump mode. Pillars was this way, though much of that was just the demands of the backer rewards. I mean, the Watcher is, in essence, an exposition dump of a plot device.
P:T has plenty of lore to dig into. But everything you learn about the Nameless One as you progress through the game is established with inference. That's why it's such a powerful story. And why the experience of Torment is so difficult to replicate. It requires a near unparalleled level of trust in the player.
On Tides, I think it just comes down to one thing: exposition.
Good stories create worlds through inference, implication, not exposition. RPGs, especially ones that don't use full VA, can easily fall into the exposition dump mode. Pillars was this way, though much of that was just the demands of the backer rewards. I mean, the Watcher is, in essence, an exposition dump of a plot device.
P:T has plenty of lore to dig into. But everything you learn about the Nameless One as you progress through the game is established with inference. That's why it's such a powerful story. And why the experience of Torment is so difficult to replicate. It requires a near unparalleled level of trust in the player.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Gamecentral gave it 7/10:
http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/01/torment-tides-of-numenera-review-not-just-a-castoff-6480366/
In Short: It often feels more like a visual novel than a true role-player, but like Planescape: Torment before it this has some of the best writing in gaming.
Pros: Wonderfully bizarre world, brought to life via some great prose writing (and some low tech graphics). The alternatives to fighting are impressively varied.
Cons: The combat is extremely dull and none of the stat-based role-playing seems necessary or particularly compelling.
They say the script is one of the best in any game since planetscape torment, but the combat sucks.
http://metro.co.uk/2017/03/01/torment-tides-of-numenera-review-not-just-a-castoff-6480366/
In Short: It often feels more like a visual novel than a true role-player, but like Planescape: Torment before it this has some of the best writing in gaming.
Pros: Wonderfully bizarre world, brought to life via some great prose writing (and some low tech graphics). The alternatives to fighting are impressively varied.
Cons: The combat is extremely dull and none of the stat-based role-playing seems necessary or particularly compelling.
They say the script is one of the best in any game since planetscape torment, but the combat sucks.
His Majesty
Banned
I do find it weird how bad combat suddenly is an issue for Tides of Numenera but not for Planescape. If it's undercooked it should be brought to attention but I think people attribute a little too much weight to it.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
Member
Makes me wonder how much of an impact the balance changes in the day 1 patch can make.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Thats like the major complaint about Planescape Torment. i dont really get the complaint because i find the combat serviceable. i think PST was a little bit ahead of its time in regard to combat because unlike most 2nd Edition AD&D you get a character with the ability to taunt and hold aggro (a tank) at the very start of the game that makes combat easy to manage.