trailmix16
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why is this one so short compared to the others?
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Trails in the Sky the 3rd |OT| Time's the Charm
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That's right.
It's not that much shorter, but most playtime is likely to be spent in optional sidestory content.
thestopsign
Member
It was not a popular opinion of mine when I was posting in the community as I was beating the games.
I think what you outline there is actually a strength of the whole Trails in the Sky series rather than one specifically for Estelle. The series has great writing/translation and in general the characters are well thought out and grounded if not eccentric. Estelle in particular just grated on me, gameplay wise she was my least favorite in combat and the incestuous-esque relationship with Joshua didn't really help or make sense to me.
JakOfTheShadows
Member
Steam version the game will go live at 1:00 PM EST when Steam updates right? Thanks.
I really don't see a relationship between individuals who didn't live together until they were 11 years old, have no blood ties, and have always seemed to have an attraction as incestuous.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Yea seriously. It never feels like they act like siblings from the get go and they've only known each other for 5 years, anyway.
... how dare you. Estelle is probably somewhere in this game so it'll be fantastic.
CertifiedFP
Member
Can't be a bigger disappointment than Zero Time Dilemma.
R_thanatos
Member
#Heresy
We know it has great characters and a great battle system. We know the soundtrack is great.
You can't fool us.
I'm well aware that a lot of people like the soundtracks, but they've just never done anything for me. I particularly detest the town themes, and I never really came across a single track that made me want to stop and just listen.
I consider music to be one of the most important parts of a game--especially in RPGs--and it pains me that I don't like the tracks in these games (so far) but I just haven't found anything to like. I guess that one mysterious theme that plays at night when something strange is about to happen is alright.
Any recommendations? Maybe I missed something good (the one you linked to is one of the ones that actually kind of annoys me. It reminds me of Japanese convenience store muzak. Which is fine, but not what I am looking for here).
MotionBlue
Member
This really snuck up on me. I loved the first two games. I will double dip(again) if this is available on literally anything else too.
I mean you can argue that humans and fruit flies have a 50% gene match. Genetic match is kind of a meaningless term. Are you comparing the raw genome data between individuals (this will give you a genetic match of like 99.5% on average)? Are you comparing the similarity in the protein-coding portions of the genome (significantly less than 99%)? Are you comparing the differences between important housekeeping genes? Is it differences in mitochondrial DNA?
TiTS saying that there's a 75% genetic match means, well, pretty much absolutely nothing unless it comes out and defines exactly what it means by a genetic match.
What kinds of tracks do you like from other RPG's?
I find it straight up elevator music and made me wonder if Falcom jdk had outsourced it. Same goes for SC's Strepitoso Fight.
chaosblade
Unconfirmed Member
This was the first thing that came to mind when I saw this post. Pardon my awful 4 minute editing.
The diversity of Kiseki soundtracks is one of their strong points, so I would be very mystified by someone saying they don't enjoy at least a few tracks.
Not even the Recapture theme? The way the trumpets are accompanied by the synth and work towards crescendos along with the cymbals is just beautiful.
Also Sophisticated Fight is an excellent theme. Calling it elevator music is really crazy. Elevator music doesn't have one of the best drum lines in battle music history nor those wonderful pitch changes. Elevator music is repetitive and mindless and doesn't have nearly as fast of a tempo.
Not even the Recapture theme? The way the trumpets are accompanied by the synth and work towards crescendos along with the cymbals is just beautiful.
Also Sophisticated Fight is an excellent theme. Calling it elevator music is really crazy. Elevator music doesn't have one of the best drum lines in battle music history nor those wonderful pitch changes. Elevator music is repetitive and mindless and doesn't have nearly as fast of a tempo.
Estelle face wins every single time.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Eiichiro Yanagi, who worked at Sound Team jdk under a different name (Takahide Murayama), did Sophisticated Fight to capture the kind of quickly modernizing and carefree world Estelle and Joshua were fighting around in. I'm not sure who did Strepitoso Fight, which is still upbeat but a bit melancholy, but they're catchy, well-developed themes which fit the action up until late in SC when you're hearing alternate themes more often. Yanagi/Murayama also worked on Gurumin tracks like Sight of Silence and post-Falcom tracks in a similar style (spot the live-style drumming in both Sophisticated Fight and these examples!).
FC's got a really diverse Falcom soundtrack for its period, even if many tracks aren't impressive compared to what Sound Team jdk did for Ys VI, Gurumin, and even Xanadu Next from that era. Getting away from my tangent, FC and SC don't offer much in the way of exciting area themes, but 3rd has a much more intense offering from musicians like Ryo Takeshita:
Jade Corridor
Golden Road, Silver Road (the build-up's worth it)
Phantasmal Blue Flowers
I wouldn't listen to these too much since we're about to have 3rd, lol.
Saya will save us.
Sophisticated Fight is one of the greatest battle themes of all time. That shit is absolutely magical in every way imaginable, and i've listened to it for thousands of hours now.
I'm actually not a fan of Sophisticated Fight or Strepitoso Fight, either. Sorry!
That said, 3rd's music was far more to my liking in that way, battle BGMs included.
I feel like it has the best (new) music of the trilogy.
Though... unfortunately for anyone who sees FC's and SC's music as elevator music (an opinion I don't share, even if I don't like the FC/SC basic battle themes), there is a lot of FC and SC music used in this one too, of course.
The new music is just fantastic, though, especially the various dungeon and battle themes.
That said, 3rd's music was far more to my liking in that way, battle BGMs included.
I feel like it has the best (new) music of the trilogy.
Though... unfortunately for anyone who sees FC's and SC's music as elevator music (an opinion I don't share, even if I don't like the FC/SC basic battle themes), there is a lot of FC and SC music used in this one too, of course.
The new music is just fantastic, though, especially the various dungeon and battle themes.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
The only real negative to FC and SC music still in 3rd is how easily players will notice the difference in synth quality between older and newer tracks. But there's something to be said for how much variety this soundtrack gives you, new tracks included.
The best part about The 3rd's main battle theme (Determination of Fight) is probably how it calls back to both FC and SC's battle themes, which really fits thematically.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I've always though Sophisticated Fight is a garbage battle theme. When I heard the battle themes in the Crossbell and Cold Steel games I was blown away by how much better they are. 3rd's is also a lot better even if it keeps the laid back feel to it.
Dragoon En Regalia
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Determination of Fight better captures the feelings I expect from FC/SC's Fight themes, but it's not the best comparison since Takeshita was in top form at this point. I'd rather listen to Sophisticated Fight than regular Seize the Truth! because it's more pleasant on the ears over time.
Basileus777
Member
Sophisticated Fight would be fine as a special battle theme or something, not a song you hear so often. It's not something that lends itself well to being repeated very often.
I'm sad, i dont have a PC to play trails (Notebook sux, Sound card is broken and i dont want to spend in a New notebook)
PSP version How i miss you
Your notebook has a broken soundcard or it just sucks but works fine? If so post the specs, it can likely run the game just fine.
Maybe consider an USB external sound card/bluetooth?
The First, its a Dell vostro 3500 from 2010, i have to retire this old notebook one day. :/ I dont want to spend in this old machine,but i dont have the money for a New one, so i think i Will have to wait for when i get a New PC Next year sadly
100% disagree. I could listen to it on loop for an eternity, and I very seriously mean that.
And in all flavors of variation, too.
I'll agree with you there, I love the original and the Zanmai version is even better. Gets me so pumped up, I'm literally listening to it right now.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
For my FC replay I've been using the Zanmai version (since I'm never using that disappointing Super Arrange variant) and it's just too funky, in a good and bad way really. I definitely think Sound Team JFK and the main dev team should do a better job of using multiple battle themes for regular encounters throughout upcoming Kiseki titles, but the one-standard-theme approach works well enough.
1st gen i3/i5? Should run the game just fine, and look way better than it would've on PSP. And an external sound card is pretty cheap dude. Like less than 10 bucks cheap. But I guess you have to have headphones/external speakers. Not sure if you used your integrated speakers for everything.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Not that I am complaining, I apparently have 14 hours played (maybe idled once or twice, I dunno how accurate) on the save game file and I feel like I've barely progressed. I'm investigating
burglaries in south bose.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Getting closer.
Getting closer.
Still too far, and I'm not even sleepy!
1 hour (or 2? always forget how the Steam timer counts) after I come home from work, perfect timing I'd say.
Getting closer.
MulderYuffie
Member
Just beat chapter 4 of SC.
Yes.
GoldandBlue
Member
Man I'm so ready for this!
theofficefan99
Junior Member
Does anyone know if a Macbook Air would be able to run these games?