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We booked January 5th to go into the studio. On December 30th, we get an e-mail from Tom's manager saying that he has no interest in recording and that he wants to do his other, non-musical stuff and that he's out indefinitely. There's a flurry of e-mails going back and forth for clarification about the recording and the show and his manager sends [an e-mail] back saying, "Tom. Is. Out." Direct quote. This is the exact same e-mail we got back in 2004 when Tom went on indefinite hiatus before.

So today they announced he was out, then he went on Instagram and said he was in, and now this.

Looks like Tom was trying to keep blink around as his cash cow to fund his other projects, but had no real intentions on putting in any effort and Mark and Travis had had enough.

 

[Moppeh]

Tom is such an asshole. The new AVA album is pretty good, though. So, if he wants to do more of that shit, more power to him.

 

[PHOENIXZERO]

Don't think it warranted a new topic TBH, it's not as if the initial topic was all that big.

 

[wenis]

Don't think it warranted a new topic TBH, it's not as if the initial topic was all that big.

new news, new topic.

thems the rules.

shame about tom, but he was always did enjoy fucking dogs.

 

[Arc]

Tom is such an asshole. The new AVA album is pretty good, though. So, if he wants to do more of that shit, more power to him.

Fuck him for selfishly holding Mark and Travis back though.

 

[RS4-]

Adam's Song still the best.

 

[Moppeh]

Fuck him for selfishly holding Mark and Travis back though.

Trudat. But now we get an extremely angry sequel to "No, It Isn't", so it's all going to work out.

 

[bobawesome]

Everything I hear about Tom makes him sound like a douche. It doesn't help that he has one of the worst voices in music.

Spoiler

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON ME

 

[Rest]

Everything I hear about Tom makes him sound like a douche. It doesn't help that he has one of the worst voices in music.

Spoiler

DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ON ME

I was watching (or maybe reading) and interview with him where he said he hated emo bands. I just though "you're the entire reason emo in its current state exists, and all the worst parts of it are influenced directly by you." Those Blink 182 inspired vocals made one of the worst genres of rock ever.

 

[NervousXtian]

Tom was the best part of Blink 182.

 

[arts&crafts]

Tom was the best part of Blink 182.

I am sad to say I agree. Boxcar Racer > Blink 182.

 

[blame space]

tom's songs on toypaj suck

 

[Rest]

Tom was the worst part of Blink 182.

Fixed that for you. Now, tell me what you like most about Travis.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I was watching (or maybe reading) and interview with him where he said he hated emo bands. I just though "you're the entire reason emo in its current state exists, and all the worst parts of it are influenced directly by you." Those Blink 182 inspired vocals made one of the worst genres of rock ever.

He cited Jimmy Eat World as one of his favorite bands. This was back in 1999 before JEW blew up in 2001.

Bullshitter.

 

[BearPawB]

Tom is/was my favorite part of Blink.

And honestly, they have been together longer then a ton of other bands.
Not everything has to/should last forever.

 

[Delta Assault]

Sounds like the story of a lonely guy.

 

[Arc]

Trudat. But now we get an extremely angry sequel to "No, It Isn't", so it's all going to work out.

I was a freshman in high school when that song came out. Deciding between team +44 and Angels & Airwaves was a daily struggle.

 

[Leeroy3101]

Meh, that sucks. I enjoyed Tom in both facets of Angels and Airwaves and Blink-182. Angels and Airwaves is less than desirable at the moment due to a mass exodus of band members from that band. Maybe Tom's just a creative cancer like Axl Rose?

 

[Darkangel]

I'll be kind of sad if they're really are breaking up again. I hope Mark and Travis keep the Blink 182 name and find a new guitarist.

 

[Tobe]

or they could bring back +44

 

[kris.]

Good riddance. A Skiba/Barker/Hoppus project would be fucking nuts. I want that to happen so badly.

 

[wenis]

Reading that RS interview is incredibly sad, but I'm glad Mark and Travis are gunna do what they finally want and do it in peace instead of waiting on a waffling band mate.

 

[Xion385]

Well it's official then. Fuck this.

 

[Fatalah]

Good riddance. A Skiba/Barker/Hoppus project would be fucking nuts. I want that to happen so badly.

Alk3 rules!

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Is there a list of Tom and Mark songs. I want to know if I'm too be sad by his leaving.

Edit: through the interview I think tom has some issues personality wise, like social anxiety or something, never being honest or something. I'm not sure if there is a word for it

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

If they're looking for a subpar guitarist, with no fame whatsoever to fill the spot, I'm free on Tuesdays.

 

[Paches]

Is there a list of Tom and Mark songs. I want to know if I'm too be sad by his leaving.

The good ones you remember were Marks.

 

[Moppeh]

Is there a list of Tom and Mark songs. I want to know if I'm too be sad by his leaving.

Edit: through the interview I think tom has some issues personality wise, like social anxiety or something, never being honest or something. I'm not sure if there is a word for it

Via https://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130516031317AA2tT8b:'

Songs written by Mark Hoppus:

Cheshire Cat:
M+M's, Fentoozler, Strings, Sometimes, Cacophony, TV, Wasting Time

Dude Ranch:
Pathetic, Dammit, Waggy, Apple Shampoo, Emo, Josie, A New Hope, Lemmings

EOTS:
Don't Leave Me, Going Away to College, What's My Age Again?, Adam's Song, The Party Song, Wendy Clear

TOYPAJ:
Online Songs, Happy Holidays, You Bastard, The Rock Show, Roller Coaster, Everytime I Look for You, Shut Up

Blink-182:
Stockholm Syndrome, Go, Here's Your Letter

Neighborhoods:
Heart's All Gone, MH 4.18.2011, Fighting the Gravity

Dogs Eating Dogs:
Dogs Eating Dogs

other:
I Won't Be Home for Christmas, Man Overboard


Songs written by Tom DeLonge:

Cheshire Cat:
Carousel, Touchdown Boy, Peggy Sue, Does My Breath Smell?, Toast and Bananas, Romeo and Rebecca, Ben Wah Balls

Dude Ranch:
Voyeur, Boring, Dick Lips, Enthused, Untitled, Degenerate, I'm Sorry

EOTS:
Dumpweed, Aliens Exist, Dysentery Gary, All the Small Things, Mutt, Anthem

TOYPAJ:
Anthem Part Two, First Date, Story of a Lonely Guy, Stay Together for the Kids, Give Me One Good Reason, Please Take Me Home

Blink-182:
Obvious, Violence, Down, Asthenia, Always, I'm Lost Without You

Neighborhoods:
Ghost on the Dance Floor, Snake Charmer, Wishing Well, Love Is Dangerous, Even If She Falls

Dogs Eating Dogs:
When I Was Young, Disaster, Pretty Little Girl

other:
Not Now


The rest is co-written by both Mark and Tom. In most cases the one who sings certain part of the song is the one who wrote the part.

Not sure how accurate this list is, but it looks about right. Mark was always more consistent, but Tom wrote a lot of my favorites post-Enema.

 

[kris.]

Is there a list of Tom and Mark songs. I want to know if I'm too be sad by his leaving.

They're all listed on the album wiki pages.

But yeah most of the best ones are Mark anyways.

 

[NYCmetsfan]

The good ones you remember were Marks.

Looking back there's a few songs I love from Delonge (Anthem Part Two, Always, All the Small Things) but a lot were dual credited.

From where I want the band to go I'd say Hoppus is who I would miss more. I like his twitter feed too

 

[Filthy Slug]

Just on a human level, I fucking love Mark. Dude produced my favorite album of all time and always seems like the most rational and fun member:

 

[NYCmetsfan]

Just on a human level, I fucking love Mark. Dude produced my favorite album of all time and always seems like the most rational and fun member:

His twitter feed is awesome, he interacts with a bunch of fans and weird twitter all the time. Much more down to earth.

And shit, I haven't listened to Motion City Soundtrack since high school. When I went through my 'emo phase' and pop punk was the rage

 

[kris.]

Just on a human level, I fucking love Mark. Dude produced my favorite album of all time and always seems like the most rational and fun member:

I may or may not see this played in its entirety next month.

Spoiler

I am.


It's gonna be fucking awesome.

 

[wenis]

Goddamit, I'm adding a bunch of blink albums and that Motion City album to my phone now. Tomorrow is pop punk day!

 

[Filthy Slug]

I may or may not see this played in its entirety next month.

Spoiler

I am.


It's gonna be fucking awesome.

Fuck yeah, man! I'm hustling my ass through this storm to see 'em Wed. I never miss a Motion City concert, especially when it's focused on Commit This to Memory.

Goddamit, I'm adding a bunch of blink albums and that Motion City album to my phone now. Tomorrow is pop punk day!

Tomorrow is gonna be a great day for you, my dude.

 

[GorillaJu]

All the best Blink songs are Mark songs anyway.

Dammit, Josie, What's my Age Again >>>>>>>>>> Tom stuff.

 

[Mononoke]

Read the history of how Tom imploded the band and the dude is a real asshole. This seems like the same bullshit again. That they have to communicate via his manager? What a joke.

 

[BigJonsson]

Loaded up Blink on Spotify

 

[Leeroy3101]

Read the history of how Tom imploded the band and the dude is a real asshole. This seems like the same bullshit again. That they have to communicate via his manager? What a joke.

It does seem similar to the last time this all went down.

 

[Cheshire_Buddha]

The good ones you remember were Marks.

Can't argue with you there. A majority of what makes TOYPAJ listenable to me now are Mark's songs (except for Shut Up, which is pretty bad) and I just find that more Mark songs stick with me now that I'm nearing 30. Dammit is still my favorite blink song ever.

I hope they can keep the name. Delonge is an asshat for doing this a second time. Fortunately, I lost respect for the guy when he did this the first time. It's a damn shame, because some of the first songs I learned on guitar were blink songs. Simple to learn, yes, but it definitely helped me. I gave AVA a chance, and after two albums I decided it wasn't for me.

+44 has one solid album with some good tracks, I just wish Carol would have stayed. If they can't keep it, then hopefully they start a new project because I really want to hear new material from Hoppus. I play Carousel every time I pick up a bass.

Looking forward to bootlegs of Skiba with Hoppus and Barker at that gig, though.

 

[wenis]

The fact that a non-bass solo intro to Carousel exists on Cheshire Cat hurts me down to my soul.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

Getting rich and famous has to be the weirdest thing ever. And knowing that you don't realize how fucking weird your life is getting as it happens makes it seem all the weirder.

Like, I assume these guys started out as friends (I know nothing about Blink). They played shows, got a following, worked/lucked their way into a record deal. Probably were so fucking excited for that deal that they all went out and got drunk together to celebrate. Fast forward a couple decades and they're communicating with each other through their separate managers, only seeing each other when they're on the stage and the probably rare moments that they are actually in a studio together (instead of recording their parts separately). The deterioration of inner-band relationships is fascinating.

 

[CountAntonius]

Shame to see bands break up but he should just let them be if he truly has no interest. He probably feels Blink is beneath him now.

 

[Fantomex]

Both are horrible singers but had catchy music.

 

[wenis]

That story is more on toms side of things. Mark and Travis are still close friends.

 

[BigJonsson]

Getting rich and famous has to be the weirdest thing ever. And knowing that you don't realize how fucking weird your life is getting as it happens makes it seem all the weirder.

Like, I assume these guys started out as friends (I know nothing about Blink). They played shows, got a following, worked/lucked their way into a record deal. Probably were so fucking excited for that deal that they all went out and got drunk together to celebrate. Fast forward a couple decades and they're communicating with each other through their separate managers, only seeing each other when they're on the stage and the probably rare moments that they are actually in a studio together (instead of recording their parts separately). The deterioration of inner-band relationships is fascinating.

I wonder what the original drummer thought of their success after he left

 

[Filthy Slug]

I wonder what the original drummer thought of their success after he left

He was probably like "hey, at least they wrote a great song about my drunken ass!"

 

[show me your skeleton]

Just on a human level, I fucking love Mark. Dude produced my favorite album of all time and always seems like the most rational and fun member:

you.

you.

i like you.

 

[FrostuTheNinja]

The fact that a non-bass solo intro to Carousel exists on Cheshire Cat hurts me down to my soul.

One of the first songs I learned to play on bass.

 

[disappeared]

Mark always wrote the better half of their catalogue; his songs always had a more human approach to them. "Lemmings" is pure testament to that. Tom did the wacky bits, some of which were all right, but Mark's stuff always had a more down-to-earth feel to it.