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Travis Barker and Mark Hoppus (blink 182) blast Tom Delonge on Rolling Stone

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PowderedToast

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lets be honest the adventure is one of the best songs ever

it is so earnest and sincere and loving oh my god he didn't even give a shit if he looked like an idiot

existential pop music without a hint of pseudo intellectualism

shit is edifying as fuck
 

Mononoke

Banned
lets be honest the adventure is one of the best songs ever

it is so earnest and sincere and loving oh my god he didn't even give a shit if he looked like an idiot

existential pop music without a hint of pseudo intellectualism

shit is edifying as fuck

I like it enough. But I still don't really care for Angel's overall style/concept. It's a bit too...

It tries to be larger then life. To me, it always came off like a cheap knock off of Tom doing U2 style arena music w/ the space rock twist. Especially if you see them live. He really tries to sell this other worldly experience.

And that always kind of bugged me. I like some of it, but just wish some of the songs stripped away some of that bombast. Just me though.
 

Arc

Member
lets be honest the adventure is one of the best songs ever

it is so earnest and sincere and loving oh my god he didn't even give a shit if he looked like an idiot

existential pop music without a hint of pseudo intellectualism

shit is edifying as fuck

Tom is such a douche in this video. I laugh every time I see him stare off at the stars before turning around to face the microphone.
 

Zombine

Banned
Mark and Travis definitely need to push back hard, and it sounds like they're about to give Tom an incredibly hard time...and justifiably so. It's unfortunate, but its time for these 3 to officially part ways for good.

For real though, I would trade Blink 182 for a happily reunited Barenaked Ladies any day of the week. That breakup was tragic, and Steven & BNL need to get back together. Steve needs those guys and vice versa.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Tom is such a douche in this video. I laugh every time I see him stare off at the stars before turning around to face the microphone.

Imagine him doing this live. Like I said earlier, saw them open for another band in SD. And Tom was prancing around stage trying to be like Bono (this larger then life figure reaching for the stars). Didn't help he had a beer gut hanging out lol
 

Arc

Member
Imagine him doing this live. Like I said earlier, saw them open for another band in SD. And Tom was prancing around stage trying to be like Bono (this larger then life figure reaching for the stars). Didn't help he had a beer gut hanging out lol

Yeah I've seen him live...he needs to stop the dancing.
 

AlexBasch

Member
Always hated Angels and Airwaves, liked +44 and thought that he was the main reason that the Blink 182 album from 2003 was shit because he went emo and whatnot.

Good riddance.
 

AlphaSnake

...and that, kids, was the first time I sucked a dick for crack
I like it enough. But I still don't really care for Angel's overall style/concept. It's a bit too...

It tries to be larger then life. To me, it always came off like a cheap knock off of Tom doing U2 style arena music w/ the space rock twist. Especially if you see them live. He really tries to sell this other worldly experience.

And that always kind of bugged me. I like some of it, but just wish some of the songs stripped away some of that bombast. Just me though.

It's basically Tom's version of Coheed & Cambria, but nowhere near as good. He's even got comics planned for it and there's a whole backstory.
 
I find it funny that he keeps insisting he didn't quit. Like, "I didn't quit, I just backed out of our planned concert, studio time that was set for a week later, and had my manager send them an email that said 'Tom.Is.Out.' But, I NEVER QUIT!"
 

wenis

Registered for GAF on September 11, 2001.
remember when angels and airwaves was going to be a major motion picture

in tom's head

that was a real thing man. i remember him going on some big rant about the production happening during one of AVA's first shows.

it was hilarious.
 

spookyfish

Member
I saw Angels and Airwaves open for Weezer once. Was weird seeing Tom prance around the stage trying to be like Bono with his beer gut hanging out. :p

I like some of Angels stuff, but I always thought the concept behind the band and the kind of image Tom wanted to make for himself, was so ridiculous.

That's the thing about AVA. I love the sound and the albums, but to me it doesn't translate well to live performances. It's so overproduced that I don't think seeing it live would do it justice.

I saw their limited "live" set after the "Love" movie, and it just wasn't the best.

It seems Blink is the better live band.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Not sure if you saw, but Tom posted a letter on Facebook. Tom comes off more level headed, and seems not as immature for airing out their dirty laundry. Still, I find a lot of Tom's actions bizarre (not recording in studio for their last LP. Only contacting them via email, and sending recording over email. Having the band contact him through his manager, instead of directly talking to his bandmates). I dunno. There is just some really weird things that make me wonder, why the guy even wants to be in a band with these guys, if can't even talk to them directly.

LETTER TO THE FANS

Where to begin?

The truth is always a good place. Let’s go there.

I love Blink and am incredibly grateful for having it in my life. It has given me everything. EVERYTHING. I started this band, it was in my garage where I dreamed up the mischief.

So what have I been doing behind the scenes? Well, I’ve tried to make things work. I’ve tried to help move this band down 50 different paths using my people, or other people, and people we don’t even know. I tried to put forth ideas about how we can grow and challenge ourselves to become a better band. I’m not sitting around waiting for someone else to do the work. I’m not wired that way.

The big reset was when I tried to put together a band summit in Utah where we’d talk and work things out. It quickly was narrowed down to three hours in someone’s dressing room in a shitty casino. What I hoped would be a positive get-together away from everything turned into an awkward meeting in a smelly convention hall dressing room. But it was there that I told Mark and Travis that as long as we talked, and things were good between us as real friends, that I would be engaged and work passionately. I'd mirror our personal relationship. Exact words.

Then, the EP was the test. Months later, we’re recording those songs. I was in the studio for two months and they came in for around 11 days. I didn’t mind leading the charge, but we had all agreed to give it 100%. And this time- no baggage.
Despite that, we still somehow managed to self-sabotage.

At one point, squabbling and politics forced me to pull the EP down at a time when 60,000 fans were trying to purchase it. And that blew my mind. I’d been trying so hard but that moment ultimately broke my spirit. I then realized that this band couldn't lose the years of ill will.

It was after that episode that I promised myself I would never be in that position again – to rely on the words we said to each other.

I remember asking one of them on the phone, “did you try your best? Like we all agreed to?” He was silent.

Are they at fault?

Am I? Of course. I'm nuts.

But there’s three of us – we’re all accountable. At the end of the day, we’ve always been dysfunctional, which is why we haven’t talked in months. But we never did. In the 8 years we have been together it has always been that way.

Over the past two and a half years, while a recording partner was being sought for a new Blink record, I launched a media company. I just put out a new Angels & Airwaves record and as some of you know, there’s a lot more coming – comics, books, a film, etc. The books will all come with music. This is a wheel that’s already in motion. So you can imagine my frustration when I was handed a 60-page Blink contract saying I couldn’t release an Angels album for 9 months and that the Blink album had to be recorded in 6 months, which was impossible for me. Doing so would force me to breach several artist contracts. Authors, Concept Artists, Animators... Many people.

They did eventually drop the Angels provision, but the part about having to finish a Blink album in 6 months remained. All of these other projects are being worked, exist in contract form– I can’t just slam the brakes and drop years of development, partnerships and commitments at the snap of a finger.

I told my manager that I will do Blink 182 as long as it was fun and worked with the other commitments in my life, including my family.
But Mark and Travis know all of this.

I wrote this same letter to them a year ago. But it created a massive argument, the biggest one yet actually. I just wanted us to do things we all agreed on. But that was their moment to dig in. From their view I was controlling everything. In reality, I was scared to put myself out there again. To repeat the EP experience.

I also wrote all of this to their managers this past December (who told me my bandmates weren’t angry and agreed with some of my ideas of how to grow the band).

So you can imagine my surprise when a press release went out yesterday—without my knowledge—about the band’s future. This is new to me. It’s not in my nature to fuel negativity about the legacy of the band on something as trashy as the Internet world.
But I guess that’s another example of how I differ from most. I follow the light... I follow passion and I make art. I hang with my son, my daughter and my wife.

At the end of the day, all of this makes me really sad.

Sad for us.

Sad for you- that you’re witnessing this immaturity.

I know them very well, and their current actions are defensive and divisive.
I suppose they’re doing this as a way to protect themselves from being hurt.
Like we all do.

And even as I watch them act so different to what I know of them to be, I still care deeply for them. Like brothers, and like old friends. But our relationship got poisoned yesterday.

Never planned on quitting, just find it hard as hell to commit.
-
Tom
 

Mononoke

Banned
I guess Tom's "other, non-musical stuff" includes Angels & Airwaves?

What is weird to me. Tom has been able to put out a bunch of his own side stuff. And yet, he couldn't even commit to 6 months of studio time for Blink? Just seems strange.

I dunno. This whole fuckin thing.
 

kiguel182

Member
lets be honest the adventure is one of the best songs ever

it is so earnest and sincere and loving oh my god he didn't even give a shit if he looked like an idiot

existential pop music without a hint of pseudo intellectualism

shit is edifying as fuck

I really like that song but that video is so ridiculous. The whole band and idea behind it is dumb regardless of the actual songs.

His dance moves are so easy to imitate and make fun off, I used to have a blast impersonating him back then. But it's hard to believe he didn't look at this and realised how dumb he looked.
 

tomtom94

Member
Not sure if you saw, but Tom posted a letter on Facebook. Tom comes off more level headed, and seems not as immature for airing out their dirty laundry. Still, I find a lot of Tom's actions bizarre (not recording in studio for their last LP. Only contacting them via email, and sending recording over email. Having the band contact him through his manager, instead of directly talking to his bandmates). I dunno. There is just some really weird things that make me wonder, why the guy even wants to be in a band with these guys, if can't even talk to them directly.

Translation: I signed a contract saying I would work with them on a new blink album, then stiffed them a week before we were going into the studio.

Even when the guy is projecting an image of level-headedness he still comes out pretty bad.
 

belvedere

Junior Butler
I remember right before Dude Ranch came out Blink were on that late Sunday night radio show that was nationally broadcast. A couple of fans had called in and expressed disappointment that DR was going to be on a major label, and that Blink had sold out. Of course I don’t remember their exact response, but Tom and Mark basically joked that they were still doing what they loved doing, but now they were getting money for it. Any semi-popular punk band around that time were accused of the same thing, so I laughed at the whole idea.

I quit following the band shortly after Enema was released but it’s funny and a bit sad what I’m reading about today. Every band member has their own fortune basically, in addition to their own recording studio. Yet despite that, the band requires lawyers, managers and email to not only discuss album releases, but to share songs and collaborate. It has to be bizarre for them to remember a time when they didn't require a fucking contract to write a song or two.
 
I find it hard to believe that Mark and Tom discussed replacing Travis. They have seen nothing but success since adding him to the band and he is easily the most transparent and popular drummer in music today. It seems like that comment is the same childish, backpedaling Tom Delonge that surfaced in 2004. Anyway, stoked to see what they're like with Skiba, even though he's been kind of a train wreck lately too.
 
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