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Why the long case?
What, was Trevor supposed to explain her points in detail for her? Her last word doesn't do much to explain a sane mindset behind her opinions.
Trevor Noah interviews scary white blonde woman on The Daily Show
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What, was Trevor supposed to explain her points in detail for her? Her last word doesn't do much to explain a sane mindset behind her opinions.
DontBeThatGuy
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Is this the new normal? People like Tomi Lahren moving away from the fringe, and not tempering her message in the slightest?
Eric the Red
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My experience watching Stewart isn't limited to youtube highlights. I watched the show all the time and he somehow made me look forward to the interviews more than the comedy segments. It isn't limited to "take downs" and that shouldn't be what we're always looking for but for every Cramer there were a dozen other random politicians, businessmen and pundits that he would, more often than not, ask just the right question to strike a chord. He could shine a spotlight on the one area the interviewee is hoping the audience doesn't look. Trevor isn't there, is all I'm saying. Not within ten floors it seems.
Black Republican
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My man. ^
Good lord, this is something else. I can't believe that she said "I don't see colour." Yikes... That's in the same boat as "I'm not racist but..."
Psychoward
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I would watch but I'd also like to retain my sanity. Sorry Trevor, you're great but I'm gonna stick with my sanity.
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Well that was, erm... Something indeed.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Just because he's not ripping her throat out when she says something stupid doesn't mean she's not making a fool of herself while he negates her positions.
triplestation
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She needs jesus
Sadly, the "louder = right" argument is pretty convincing amongst the masses, not just in the US either, we get it here in the UK as well.
Talking over someone while banging your head into the same rhetoric over and over is essentially how Jeremy Clarkson debates, and he is pretty popular.
Talking over someone while banging your head into the same rhetoric over and over is essentially how Jeremy Clarkson debates, and he is pretty popular.
what is a proud argentine man doing in UK?
Las Malvinas son Argentinas!
About the crazy blonde. That's just how accommodated people think, they never had to fight for anything so any protest is something awful to their eyes. They are born in a bubble and live there, and can't understand how the real world works for the rest of us.
Fallout-NL
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"I'm a millennial, I don't like labels."
I am conflicted on this, if you subscribe to a team theory, then I don't think you walk away thinking anything different to what you started with.
On the other hand, if you watched that and saw her constant evasions, lack of logic and simple talking points and didn't think that woman is a fucking idiot, then you are probably missing a few screws.
I think it wasn't an evisceration but all the online chatter has been about liberals talking down and not listening to the other side and here is a perfect example of the bastion of liberal thinking and critical examination of both sides giving the Conservative Young Icon a chance to talk and not talk over her and give her a chance to express her views while asking her some pointed questions.
This will be seen as proof that given all the time and patience in the world she still didn't address a single point that was discussed, so no matter the opportunity, she will always come off as illogical and slightly unhinged, desperately scrabblng around to justify why her racist views are not actually racist.
On the other hand, if you watched that and saw her constant evasions, lack of logic and simple talking points and didn't think that woman is a fucking idiot, then you are probably missing a few screws.
I think it wasn't an evisceration but all the online chatter has been about liberals talking down and not listening to the other side and here is a perfect example of the bastion of liberal thinking and critical examination of both sides giving the Conservative Young Icon a chance to talk and not talk over her and give her a chance to express her views while asking her some pointed questions.
This will be seen as proof that given all the time and patience in the world she still didn't address a single point that was discussed, so no matter the opportunity, she will always come off as illogical and slightly unhinged, desperately scrabblng around to justify why her racist views are not actually racist.
Nope, far from it. He did expose the hollow rhetoric of the Trump supporters, I for one loved how she didn't answer the questions, she hammered home the shallow and meaningless marketing buzzwords that apparently make up her show, over and over again.
She probably walked off that stage feeling like a winner too.
I think Noah did a poor job at times, overall in fact. But this interview also illustrates how populism in the Trump mold, often devoid of empirical backing, will often lend itself eventually to a harsh inflection point when reality won't match the rhetoric and a hurricane approaches your house of cards. Specifically their rhetoric about global trade and healthcare early on.
Her logic is doomed to failure just based on historical and empirical evidence. If they do what she says, the results will fail to match the aims. If they abandon it they become frauds of their own creation due to their heavy emphasis on purity from corruption.
They have no winning path on these issues. Starting a trade war will not make their supporters happy. Not when that $900 55in TV they bought at Walmart suddenly jumps up 3x in price. Or supply chains of numerous goods break down. All while no new factories magically pop up and many of the same rural issues remain. They think that 1000 person factory will save them in 4 years? Ask Obama and Clinton how well bailing out Detroit endeared them long term. Making healthcare better for everyone will be a hard sell when you are trying to privatize medicare, repeal the employer insurance tax credit and raise premiums of the oldest people in the individual market while keeping healthcare unaffordable for many people.
People like Tomi will either break one of two ways. She will end up a schill that over time will have her brand become more and more vulnerable as she makes excuses as Trump continues to bend toward establishment positions on many issues, or she ends up being a new type of Beck, having to go further right to carve out a niche as staying "pure" to the ideals as trump supporters get disillusioned. Pushing her further down the fascist, racist, factually void path.
Her logic is doomed to failure just based on historical and empirical evidence. If they do what she says, the results will fail to match the aims. If they abandon it they become frauds of their own creation due to their heavy emphasis on purity from corruption.
They have no winning path on these issues. Starting a trade war will not make their supporters happy. Not when that $900 55in TV they bought at Walmart suddenly jumps up 3x in price. Or supply chains of numerous goods break down. All while no new factories magically pop up and many of the same rural issues remain. They think that 1000 person factory will save them in 4 years? Ask Obama and Clinton how well bailing out Detroit endeared them long term. Making healthcare better for everyone will be a hard sell when you are trying to privatize medicare, repeal the employer insurance tax credit and raise premiums of the oldest people in the individual market while keeping healthcare unaffordable for many people.
People like Tomi will either break one of two ways. She will end up a schill that over time will have her brand become more and more vulnerable as she makes excuses as Trump continues to bend toward establishment positions on many issues, or she ends up being a new type of Beck, having to go further right to carve out a niche as staying "pure" to the ideals as trump supporters get disillusioned. Pushing her further down the fascist, racist, factually void path.
I have a co worker who says it at least like once a week.
MrCunningham
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I thought he was paraphrasing "Colbert Report" era Colbert with that line.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Do you know someone colourblind? If so tell your coworker to tell that to him or her.I have a co worker who says it at least like once a week.
Muppet of a Man
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What a piece of spoiled, entitled shit.
Fudgepuppy
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Tomi Lahren is totally a porn star-name.
Was only able to watch an 8 minute excerpt (blocked in the UK) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hyv3PUy5xCk , and I'm not digging Noah's condescending tone to be honest. It seems that she's come there looking to debate, and all he's doing is calling her racist, and taking what she's saying out of context (ex: when she says "What did the KKK do?", she's clearly asking the question to compare what BLM and KKK have/are doing, and not "I don't actually know what the KKK did").
Dominican Power
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smh @ that Hillary/Bill line. What a trash of a person.
If you want to see a Liberal eviscerate people, check out Joy Reid. She would of demolished this girl.
If you want to see a Liberal eviscerate people, check out Joy Reid. She would of demolished this girl.
Prototype Viktor
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Tomi aka the social media mutation of Ann Coulter
who if you google crazy conservative woman pops up
greycolumbus
The success of others absolutely infuriates me.
"Donald Trump is gonna drain the swamp!"
"..uhh, he's literally hiring everyone from the swamp."
"Everyone has their place! He's a businessman!"
Yeah, I don't think Tomi Lahren's beliefs hold much value. It's not terribly fun or interesting seeing someone on the rhetorical defensive at all costs in light of obvious cognitive dissonance. How do you debate effectively in this scenario?
"I don't see color."
I don't know, it feels like communication is happening one way. There's no right way for minorities to protest. This has been made abundantly clear.
"Because I'm a woman I've been marginalized in some way."
"I'm not a victim."
This interview is weird.
"..uhh, he's literally hiring everyone from the swamp."
"Everyone has their place! He's a businessman!"
Yeah, I don't think Tomi Lahren's beliefs hold much value. It's not terribly fun or interesting seeing someone on the rhetorical defensive at all costs in light of obvious cognitive dissonance. How do you debate effectively in this scenario?
"I don't see color."
I don't know, it feels like communication is happening one way. There's no right way for minorities to protest. This has been made abundantly clear.
"Because I'm a woman I've been marginalized in some way."
"I'm not a victim."
This interview is weird.
Heard about this fool yesterday in a BBC article http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38021995. It's amazing that all you need to be is a pretty, privileged white girl who goes out of her way to target marginalised groups - and suddenly you're a "rising star".
The "underdog" comments got me. Where the fuck do these white people get the energy for the mental gymnastics needed where they're the underdog? I guess everyone likes to think their struggle was the hardest and reminding them they were born with the best natural advantage possible takes that away from them.
The "underdog" comments got me. Where the fuck do these white people get the energy for the mental gymnastics needed where they're the underdog? I guess everyone likes to think their struggle was the hardest and reminding them they were born with the best natural advantage possible takes that away from them.
She gets millions, sometimes tens of millions of views. She's huge, just not on TV.
Monocle
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I didn't see a trouncing. I saw a skilled bullshit artist demonstrate her powers of deflection against a sharp host asking the right questions.
People like her are scary because they can mask the insidious core of their message with circular word games. Even when you see right through it, you can't really argue against it because they'll parry any contradicting facts and then swing the conversation back around to their canned talking points.
Debates with such people are an exercise in frustration. Idiots are dazzled by the confident delivery and feel validated in their bullshit, and the informed and critically minded have to endure the sight of yet another fast talking charlatan profiting from the most audacious lies.
People like her are scary because they can mask the insidious core of their message with circular word games. Even when you see right through it, you can't really argue against it because they'll parry any contradicting facts and then swing the conversation back around to their canned talking points.
Debates with such people are an exercise in frustration. Idiots are dazzled by the confident delivery and feel validated in their bullshit, and the informed and critically minded have to endure the sight of yet another fast talking charlatan profiting from the most audacious lies.
Sanjaaaaaaaay
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Duh, people are laughing because they know what the KKK have done. The comparison is illogical.
Jorok Goldblade
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Tuesday night Trevor advised arguing with Trump like he's a toddler. Last night he showed how effective that strategy is.
You must not have Facebook then.
It's called Facebook
Baki
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Getting millions of viewers doesn't automatically mean millions in ad revenue. Some brands don't want to be associated with that type of toxic brand.
How else would they be able to push the "I got here through sheer will and hard work alone" rhetoric?
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