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[Brandon F]

Has Pence even done anything worthy of criticism since he became VP?

Very likely he lied about his knowledge regarding the Flynn debacle and other associated Russia-related issues where he was a fixture in the scapegoat responses. (I mean unless Pence literally was such a lame-duck he knew absolutely nothing going on. Either way looks bad for him)

He got caught using a private email server that was hacked in his home state of Indiana a few months back. (Like this was kind of unbelievable and drowned out over more stupid hypocritical stuff)

He has a thing against dining with women outside of his wife. Too much sexual tension or something.

Beyond that, he has shown zero willingness to push back on any of these horrendous GOP policies, which isn't unique, but proves the guy is literally nothing but a tool. Not that it is unexpected, but still worthy of as much criticism as any of the others.

 

[Red]

Very likely he lied about his knowledge regarding the Flynn debacle and other associated Russia-related issues where he was a fixture in the scapegoat responses. (I mean unless Pence literally was such a lame-duck he knew absolutely nothing going on. Either way looks bad for him)

He got caught using a private email server that was hacked in his home state of Indiana a few months back. (Like this was kind of unbelievable and drowned out over ore stupid hypocritical stuff)

He has a thing against dining with women outside of his wife. Too much sexual tension or something.

Beyond that, he has shown zero willingness to push back on any of these horrendous GOP policies, which isn't unique, but proves the guy is literally nothing but a tool. Not that it is unexpected, but still worthy of as much criticism as any of the others.

Why would Pence push back on any of the major GOP policy initiatives?

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

And it's just gonna keep falling. Please let it hit the mid-twenties by the end of the year.

 

[Fenderputty]

I think "base slipping's" the bigger thing here. I thought they'd be like immovable bedrock until he's impeached.

He's not accomplishing their white nationalist goals nor is he stripping healthcare from the poor. Of course his base would eventually erode.

IMO this further proves "economic anxiety" was always a scapegoat. Racial animus was what drove his base

 

[Ambient80]

If Trump and Pence both go down, doesn’t that make Ryan President?

I just projectile vomited at the thought of that.

 

[hydrophilic attack]

fuck off rump

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

He's not accomplishing their white nationalist goals nor is he stripping healthcare from the poor. Of course his base would eventually erode.

IMO this further proves "economic anxiety" was always a scapegoat. Racial animus was what drove his base

For all the post election concern about the white working class, he hasn't done a thing about dying industries besides show up at factory deals that were already in planning before he entered office.

 

[Doominated]

Still 33 points too high

 

[Fenderputty]

For all the post election concern about the white working class, he doesn't done a thing about dying industries besides show up at factory deals that were already in planning before he entered office.

That is true. Some of his base will be upset their manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. If fell like that's a more insignificant group than the ones I listed, but maybe I'm wrong

 

[Random Human]

He's not accomplishing their white nationalist goals nor is he stripping healthcare from the poor. Of course his base would eventually erode.

IMO this further proves "economic anxiety" was always a scapegoat. Racial animus was what drove his base

Good point

 

[Host Samurai]

32%? holy fuck thats impressive for 8 months. Took Bush 8 years, a war and an economic crash crash to get to 25%. I didn't think he'd be this low till October.

 

[Dead Prince]

waiting for the other polls to go up so he can tweet about his 50% rating.

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

 

[Nazgul_Hunter]

The salt is gonna be good.

Also watch more republicans start speaking out as it becomes clear this train wreck won’t magically re-rail

 

[Brawly Likes to Brawl]

That is true. Some of his base will be upset their manufacturing jobs aren't coming back. If fell like that's a more insignificant group than the ones I listed, but maybe I'm wrong

It definitely feels like that group was propped up as a way to deflect backlash toward his voters. A lot of the same "racism had nothing to do with it!" that we heard after Brexit.

 

[Electric Eye]

What's important here is that the "Trump million jobs", fake ass narrative didn't catch on. Everyone knows it's all still the economy riding on what Obama set up and has nothing to do with Trump and that non of those jobs are the ones his base want.

 

[Raven117]

I think "base slipping's" the bigger thing here. I thought they'd be like immovable bedrock until he's impeached.

This. This is the takeaway.

Quite frankly, we have been shown that general polling doesnt quite capture the picture with Trump.

Whats the most important is that "core" group moving. Things take time. Alot of these people have to come to grips that they voted for a fool and its hard to admit you made a mistake.

So, slow and steady...with Mueller stalking from behind ...

 

[ZeoVGM]

Sounds like he's readying them for war. I think he knows he's going down. So why is the RNC hitching themselves to him by making that Trump sycophant Kayleigh whatsherface?

There's an answer for this but it's a bit complicated so you might want to favorite this post and then come back to it when you have some time to take it all in.

Okay, here we go:

Spoiler

They're idiots.

 

[Bedlam]

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

Geez, he really sounds like a high-schooler who got caught, knows he is guilty as fuck and can't think of any defense other than dishing out senseless insults left and right.

I know it's nothing new for most of us but I think his schtick is becoming so old, repetitive and transparent that even some of his dumb followers must start to smell the constant projection and lies.

 

[Shadybiz]

waiting for the other polls to go up so he can tweet about his 50% rating.

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

A bit of projection about him taking a vacation so soon into his term, perhaps.

 

[Piggus]

waiting for the other polls to go up so he can tweet about his 50% rating.

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

Says the guy who dodged the draft because of his low-stamina bones.

 

[Carpe Carnim]

waiting for the other polls to go up so he can tweet about his 50% rating.

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

Look at Ho Chi Dim trying to deflect from his dumpster fire administration. Sad!

 

[Dead Prince]

doesnt he use rasmussen?

Monday, August 07, 2017

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows that 41% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Fifty-seven percent (57%) disapprove.

The latest figures for Trump include 25% who Strongly Approve of the way Trump is performing and 48% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -23. (see trends).

oh.

 

[Zolo]

doesnt he use rasmussen?



oh.

Ramussen USED to be good. It's not anymore.

 

[DrBo42]

Does he have what it takes to buck the system and the group collective? Only then can he reach the next level. This, is the approval rating war.

 

[Stumpokapow]

waiting for the other polls to go up so he can tweet about his 50% rating.

he's still at it talking about Blumenthal

It looks like the underlying source is this:
- Blumenthal served in the Marine Corps reserve during Vietnam and was never deployed
- Later, when talking to Veterans, he did the political thing where he embellished his service and claimed to have served "in Vietnam" or otherwise left people the impression his service was something more than it was
- The allegations date back a decade
- Trump didn't serve at all and dodged the draft with a deferment for bogus bone spurs
- Also who could blame him because Vietnam was a total fucking mistake and the draft was monstrous so why the hell is this even a thing in 2017

 

[Joeytj]

Trump probably has the worst approval ratings for any president with an unemployment rate in the low 4% range.

And the unemployment rate isn't going to go down much further for the rest of his presidency, so he's not going to find much solace there at least.

 

[Locke562]

What politician calls their base "the base" let alone Trump calling his base "The Trump base." Jesus fucking Christ.

 

[BlastProcessing]

Trump is bleeding support from his wherever.

 

[Wulfric]

This is pure frightening. Hopefully he gets the boot sooner rather than later.

 

[jiggle]

It'll probably improve now that he's laying low and working hard in his golf course

 

[shiba5]

There's an answer for this but it's a bit complicated so you might want to favorite this post and then come back to it when you have some time to take it all in.

Okay, here we go:

Spoiler

They're idiots.

They really really are.

It'll probably improve now that he's laying low and working hard in his golf course

He's working hard crashing weddings in between golfing.

 

[Lo-Volt]

Disgusting that it is still that high.

But also shocking that his approval figures are collapsing this quickly compared to presidents in the mass media age. Trump started bleeding even in the base the moment he was inaugurated, and now recent polls are showing the Republican Party selectorate cracking.

 

[shiba5]

CNN poll:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/07/politics/poll-trump-approval-down-amid-distrust/index.html

75% don't trust anything coming from the White House. LOL

Full poll results:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/08/07/rel7a.-.trump.200.days.v2.pdf

36% still think he's honest (guffaw) while 30% think he's admirable. I just... HOW??

 

[Futureman]

This is pure frightening. Hopefully he gets the boot sooner rather than later.

I told my GF's dad about this topic and he said he just read guys approval rating among his base (or maybe Republicans in general?) went up from 82% to 88% from June to July. Not sure where he read it though.

 

[epmode]

I hate him so much.

It kills me that he doesn't care how fucking irresponsible it is for the President to say this stuff. Destroying American democracy for better poll numbers.

 

[Narpas Sword0]

If he gets too unpopular the GOP might get some street cred from openly dumping him

 

[theignoramus]

I think he's going to attack North Korea in the very near future to change up the headlines and rally support.

 

[Imperfected]

I hate him so much.

It kills me that he doesn't care how fucking irresponsible it is for the President to say this stuff. Destroying American democracy for better poll numbers.

Well, I mean...

Destroying American democracy for the uncertainty required to delude himself into believing he's getting better poll numbers, anyway.

 

[CazTGG]

So if it looks like pence is going down, what the likely hood of trump dumping him and putting someone even more disgusting in place. Just as a last fuck you.

Can the President change vps in the middle of a term?

To my knowledge, no. They can run a different VP during a second (or, in FDR's case, fourth) term for election but only Congress can remove a VP by way of impeachment. That or resignation.

Fun fact: That's how Newt Gingrich imagined he'd become president...kind of; he thought that by impeaching Bill Clinton and Al Gore assuming the presidency, he could impeach Gore if he pardoned Clinton and thus he, as Speaker, would become president.

 

[GK86]

New Twitter banner to make it look like he is working.

 

[andythinkpad]

He is not in prison, it can go lower.

 

[Maridia]

Ironically, I think we're getting to the point where going much lower will require actual accomplishments. Merely being belligerently ill-intentioned can only net you so much disapproval.

 

[Random Human]

New Twitter banner to make it look like he is working.

This feels like a preemptive strike at the inevitable Hurricane Katrina-style scandal.

 

[rokkerkory]

/fakenews

 

[Angelus Errare]

CNN poll:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/07/politics/poll-trump-approval-down-amid-distrust/index.html

75% don't trust anything coming from the White House. LOL

Full poll results:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2017/images/08/07/rel7a.-.trump.200.days.v2.pdf

36% still think he's honest (guffaw) while 30% think he's admirable. I just... HOW??

He's not black.

 

[Amibguous Cad]

Things are bad l, but remember you only hear about these polls if they're they're newsworthy, so the ones you hear about usually underestimate trump's approval. 538's aggregate has it at 36%.

 

[norinrad]

32%? holy fuck thats impressive for 8 months. Took Bush 8 years, a war and an economic crash crash to get to 25%. I didn't think he'd be this low till October.

North Korea will take him to 20%

 

[PeregrinSe7en]

a little off topic, but that was a great flick. hoping for a sequel (preferably with a trump like villian trying to enforce tyranny)

 

[Zolo]

I think he's going to attack North Korea in the very near future to change up the headlines and rally support.

Pictures and video of Seoul being destroyed isn't going to help his support.

 

[Elfforkusu]

This can only be good news, Republicans need to want Trump out for him to go away before 2019 (at best).

I know Pence would be really bad, but it's bad on a linear scale rather than a logarithmic one