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Trump claims Obama, other presidents never called families of fallen soldiers

keuja

Member
It's amazing how often he defers to "that's what I was told" or "that's what I heard", as if it absolves him of any responsibility for what he says.

And always publicly throwing the ball to his generals or staff and putting them on the spot for whatever garbage he's spewing out.
 

Laieon

Member
Mr. Trump said he had written personal letters to their families and planned to call them in the coming week.

“I don’t know if he did,” the president said. “I was told he didn’t often, and a lot of presidents don’t. They write letters.”


...so the idiot himself had yet to call these families (and had only written letters) and still decided falsely accusing Obama of only writing letters and not calling was a good idea?

This boy never seizes to surprise me.
 

pushbyte

Neo Member
Ladies and gentlemen, the T.R.U.M.P. system:

T - Tell Lies
"Barack HUSSEIN Obama never called the family of fallen soldiers."

R - Reference Ambiguous Masses
"Many people say—and who's to say if they're right or wrong—but many people say that and so it makes you wonder if they're on to something."

U - Unify Base
By dinner time that evening, right-wing talking heads do extended segments trying to prove Trump correct. The rest of the media thoroughly discredits Trump's original statement, but by this point, Trump's base is assured that he was actually right all along.

M - Mention Hillary
Before the cycle completes itself, conservative commentators will present a series of Pepe Sylvia-level conspiracy theories likely sourced from r/T_D, tying it all back to Crooked Hillary. "It's important to remember that, with all of the talk of fallen Americans, Benghazi happened and nobody was held accountable. Clinton should be in jail but the liberal media has the whole country divided over who called who. Just more fake news."

P - Press For Money
The final step is sending out campaign emails asking for money to defeat The Devil's Party And It's Left-Handed Path. "The liberal media continues its assault on our President Donald J. Trump and American values. Help us continue the fight for OUR country. Click below to donate now and Make America Great Again #2020.
 

Shadybiz

Member
...so the idiot himself had yet to call these families (and had only written letters) and still decided falsely accusing Obama of only writing letters and not calling was a good idea?

This boy never seizes to surprise me.

There is no way that those letters were written. Someone said earlier in this thread, and I agree with them, that there are probably staffers scrambling to write those letters right now.
 

Extollere

Sucks at poetry
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Basic human empathy ya'll...
 

Extollere

Sucks at poetry
Ladies and gentlemen, the T.R.U.M.P. system:

T - Tell Lies
"Barack HUSSEIN Obama never called the family of fallen soldiers."

R - Reference Ambiguous Masses
"Many people say—and who's to say if they're right or wrong—but many people say that and so it makes you wonder if they're on to something."

U - Unify Base
By dinner time that evening, right-wing talking heads do extended segments trying to prove Trump correct. The rest of the media thoroughly discredits Trump's original statement, but by this point, Trump's base is assured that he was actually right all along.

M - Mention Hillary
Before the cycle completes itself, conservative commentators will present a series of Pepe Sylvia-level conspiracy theories likely sourced from r/T_D, tying it all back to Crooked Hillary. "It's important to remember that, with all of the talk of fallen Americans, Benghazi happened and nobody was held accountable. Clinton should be in jail but the liberal media has the whole country divided over who called who. Just more fake news."

P - Press For Money
The final step is sending out campaign emails asking for money to defeat The Devil's Party And It's Left-Handed Path. "The liberal media continues its assault on our President Donald J. Trump and American values. Help us continue the fight for OUR country. Click below to donate now and Make America Great Again #2020.

This reads like pure conspiracy theory... but it's actually all true, and happening like almost every fucking day. How the fuck does the Nation's psyche handle 3 or 7 more years of this shit? A huge portion of the right wing voting population is gonna be totally off the deep end in right wing conspiracies and alternate history lines. It's gonna suck.

Maaan... I really hope the Democrats have some good candidates in the works that we haven't heard of yet. Shit... who am I kidding?
 

Ponn

Banned
Holding Trumps feet to the fire and calling him a liar doesn’t seem to work on him. He’s so wrapped up in his own reality and deflects everything to his sycophants who protect him. People need to need to change their tactics and start playing his game a bit. He says his generals told him Obama and other presidents didn’t contact fallen soldiers families? Fine, ok, then start questioning these generals why they are telling Trump this, starting with Kelly. Start putting his people he is using as a shield on the spot and holding them responsible. Start forcing these people to either call Trump on his bullshit or take the hit on their own character till they buckle.
 

Derwind

Member
The only thing Trump ever personally wrote is eviction notices, Trump will try to convince you he's the first to take a dump in the WH lavatories if he could, motherfucker there have been 44 other Presidents before your shameful ass was given a the mantel by technicality.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
It's hard for me to say Trump is a worse president than Bush, because he ultimately does not yet have anything on his plate as spectacularly bad as Iraq, but I think it would be fair to say that there is not a worse human being, relative to the moral standards of his time, that has been president. Maaaaaybe Jackson, but does anybody really think Trump wouldn't order something like a Trail of Tears, if it were sociopolitically acceptable and an option presented to him?

The only President in modern times I would consider as "gross" a human would be Nixon. I'd probably be very skeeved if I met him, though at least he'd probably be witty and have some good stories.

Trump literally has no charm, no wit, and no class. Dude is a walking talking pile of garbage.
 

Cartman86

Banned
...isn't he saying that previous presidents have not always called every fallen soldier's family member? As in they have called, but sometimes they don't? So Trump is basically trying to shield himself from that criticism? Some in the thread (and the tweets) are acting as if Trump is saying Obama and others never called soldiers which falls in line with his dumb statements but is just a little far fetched. Stories like this are just another way for Bush and other war Hawks to get away with everything they have done. It gets us to talk about "respecting" the office and our military and other stuff that is basically bullshit.
 
During 2017, nobody has been the beneficiary of more image rehabilitation than George W. Bush. He meets the incredibly low barrier of “is capable of occasionaly acting human” when compared to the current president.

Cheney doesn’t meet that threshold, however.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
...isn't he saying that previous presidents have not always called every fallen soldier's family member? As in they have called, but sometimes they don't? So Trump is basically trying to shield himself from that criticism? Some in the thread (and the tweets) are acting as if Trump is saying Obama and others never called soldiers which falls in line with his dumb statements but is just a little far fetched. Stories like this are just another way for Bush and other war Hawks to get away with everything they have done. It gets us to talk about "respecting" the office and our military and other stuff that is basically bullshit.

Even if that were the case, the fact that every single thing this asshole says needs to be "translated" indicates that he's either

1) An asshole that needs surrogates to spin his blatherings

2) The worst communicator to ever hold the office

3) Both
 
...isn't he saying that previous presidents have not always called every fallen soldier's family member? As in they have called, but sometimes they don't? So Trump is basically trying to shield himself from that criticism? Some in the thread (and the tweets) are acting as if Trump is saying Obama and others never called soldiers which falls in line with his dumb statements but is just a little far fetched. Stories like this are just another way for Bush and other war Hawks to get away with everything they have done. It gets us to talk about "respecting" the office and our military and other stuff that is basically bullshit.

It's literally the first quote in the OP. He said Obama and most presidents "didn't make calls."
 

ps3ud0

Member
Damn Trumps legacy is gonna embarrass his lineage for generations. History is not going to be kind...

ps3ud0 8)
 
Contradicts himself constantly, this guy.

"Obama [doesn't call]."

"I don't know if he did."

"I was told he did, but not often."
 

aliengmr

Member
...isn't he saying that previous presidents have not always called every fallen soldier's family member? As in they have called, but sometimes they don't? So Trump is basically trying to shield himself from that criticism? Some in the thread (and the tweets) are acting as if Trump is saying Obama and others never called soldiers which falls in line with his dumb statements but is just a little far fetched. Stories like this are just another way for Bush and other war Hawks to get away with everything they have done. It gets us to talk about "respecting" the office and our military and other stuff that is basically bullshit.

Trump is doing "classic Trump" which is just talking himself up. The truth is he doesn't have clue what other Presidents did and doesn't actually care.
 

ericexpo

Member
If this is where the line is drawn I'll be surprised. It's just going to be spun in some way or we move on. Im really done I want off this ride
 
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