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[abundant]

I'm curious how this lot handles the fact that it was a green beret who suggested taking a knee in the first place. I haven't seen any direct acknowledgment of it - do they just ignore it?

Of course they do, because once they acknowledge it, the case of "the NFL protesting the flag and the anthem" is shown to be false.

For those that don't know, Colin Kaepernick's original way of protest was to sit out the national anthem. A fellow football player who was a green beret suggested to Kaep that it would be better if he keeled during the anthem, so no one could accuse him of disrespecting the flag. Kaep agreed with him and that is how this whole thing began.

 

[hbkdx12]

I'm curious how this lot handles the fact that it was a green beret who suggested taking a knee in the first place. I haven't seen any direct acknowledgment of it - do they just ignore it?

That would focus attention back to why the protest was started in the first place and we see their working overtime to co-opt the issue completely so yeah, they ignore it.

 

[ramoisdead]

If I was a NFL owner who had donated millions to Trump's campaign all for him to blast me and say I'm scared of my own players, I'd feel pretty damn dumb right about now. And I would have no one else to blame but myself.

 

[Shadybiz]

I'm curious how this lot handles the fact that it was a green beret who suggested taking a knee in the first place. I haven't seen any direct acknowledgment of it - do they just ignore it?

Conveniently forgotten. Most of us Americans have the memories of goldfish.

 

[hbkdx12]

If I was a NFL owner who had donated millions to Trump's campaign all for him to blast me and say I'm scared of my own players, I'd feel pretty damn dumb right about now. And I would have no one else to blame but myself.

It's a great PR opportunity for them and they're treating it as such. Don't cry for them. If this shit all blows over for them the way they want they'll be having drinks and shaking hands with trump in no time

 

[Khalifa Jayy]

He's just attempting to put the two against one another, and of course the old white guys that own the teams aren't gonna let the public think them to be weak or powerless.

Expect some stupid reactions and "demands" coming down on teams and players.

Again, Trump attempting to change the narrative to shift the focus of this whole thing.

 

[I Big JG I]

Gucci Squealing Little Piggy.

 

[linkboy]

I'm curious how this lot handles the fact that it was a green beret who suggested taking a knee in the first place. I haven't seen any direct acknowledgment of it - do they just ignore it?

They ignore it.

Here's the deal with conservatives, they use military members to push their agenda, but they don't give two actual shits about them.

They'll send us (I was in the Air Force for 12 years) to war, fuck up our minds and bodies, and then won't give us the medical support we need afterwards. They're the reason why the VA is a mess, but they won't allocate the resources to fix it.

 

[-tetsuo-]

Yo can this dude just shut the fuck up for 48 hours? Like, please. I never make posts like this really but god damn shut up fuck man SHUT UP.

 

[ZOONAMI]

Trump admin is just using this as a decoy so they don’t have to talk about PR, failed healthcare bill, Russians, etc.

 

[Kai Dracon]

This whole thing is red meat for Trump because it's not just any old distraction; he knows his base loses their minds for the defense of blind nationalism and deification the flag.

 

[Saint Gregory]

This whole thing is red meat for Trump because it's not just any old distraction; he knows his base loses their minds for the defense of blind nationalism and deification the flag.

And any opportunity to shit on black people... don't forget about that :/

 

[Forearm Star]

Gotta appeal to that base. They aren't concerned with Puerto Rico, so why would he be?

This ride is just getting worse and worse.

 

[yellowjacket25]

So should all of the people grabbing beers, going to the bathroom, and playing on their phones during the national anthem be kicked out of the stadium?

 

[Dredd97]

and what with twitter trialling a 280 character limit for tweets, it boggles the mind how Trump will use his favourite weapon...

 

[TheCochese]

He's not going to beat out Jackson for most racist President, but he doesn't see the harm in trying.

Shit, actual slave owning Presidents come across as less racist. It's unbelievable.

 

[hbkdx12]

and what with twitter trialling a 280 character limit for tweets, it boggles the mind how Trump will use his favourite weapon...

Probably just drop the dog whistles all together since he has more characters to just say what he wants.

 

[Dredd97]

So should all of the people grabbing beers, going to the bathroom, and playing on their phones during the national anthem be kicked out of the stadium?

I wonder how many of the fox news 'reporters' do this on a regular basis, then cry foul on tv when others do it...

isn't it about time you lot banned fox news on the ground it's not actually a news service? (I'm a brit)

 

[abundant]

isn't it about time you lot banned fox news on the ground it's not actually a news service? (I'm a brit)

Pretty hard (next to impossible) to do, seeing how Fox News is a successful propaganda machine for the Right, who put party above country all the time.

 

[Dredd97]

Pretty hard (next to impossible) to do, seeing how Fox News is a successful propaganda machine for the Right, who put party above country all the time.

yeah i was sort of joking when i type that reply.. besides, news or not, it would fall under free speech anyway..

you can see why it's Trump's go to news source though.. which is weird, because if any news outlet could be accused of peddling fake news, Fox news would be at the top of most lists...

 

[TheCochese]

I wonder how many of the fox news 'reporters' do this on a regular basis, then cry foul on tv when others do it...

isn't it about time you lot banned fox news on the ground it's not actually a news service? (I'm a brit)

I think that would actually cause Civil War 2 to break out.

 

[Byakuya769]

"U.S. President is scared of black men."

 

[Gentleman Jack]

Is there something else that you could be focusing on right now, Don? Something about an island or something?

Because he's a lazy, obsessive child in desperate need of validation, and dogwhistling so far is the only thing that people are clapping for.

 

[Fuzzy]

Why is he still banging on about NFL players taking a knee, is something about to drop?

He's still salty the NFL never let him become a team owner.

 

[Vagabundo]

they should pull down their jocks and moon the stadium during the anthem. In fact mooning Trump should become a thing, as a protest.

 

[Akuun]

For those that don't know, Colin Kaepernick's original way of protest was to sit out the national anthem. A fellow football player who was a green beret suggested to Kaep that it would be better if he keeled during the anthem, so no one could accuse him of disrespecting the flag. Kaep agreed with him and that is how this whole thing began.

So it's a very deliberately gentle and respectful way to protest, and of course all the racists go fucking ballistic.

Amazing.

 

[Saint Gregory]

they should pull down their jocks and moon the stadium during the anthem. In fact mooning Trump should become a thing, as a protest.

It would only be fair... Trump has been showing his ass for the last 9 months.

 

[Kinyou]

Of course they do, because once they acknowledge it, the case of "the NFL protesting the flag and the anthem" is shown to be false.

For those that don't know, Colin Kaepernick's original way of protest was to sit out the national anthem. A fellow football player who was a green beret suggested to Kaep that it would be better if he keeled during the anthem, so no one could accuse him of disrespecting the flag. Kaep agreed with him and that is how this whole thing began.

It's kind of crazy that kneeling is even seen as disrespect. Like... that's what you used to do in front of kings.

It's the tamest protest ever and people are going nuts

 

[Sunster]

arm the owners.

 

[Angry Grimace]

Trump is a fucking joke with too much free time on his hand to still be talking about this.

He's distracting the base from the healthcare repeal failure.

 

[Oxn]

Can we just stop playing the Anthem at sporting events?

Waste of my time.

 

[Fuzzy]

Can we just stop playing the Anthem at sporting events?

Waste of my time.

If it wasn't for sporting events no adults would remember the words.

 

[Shadybiz]

If it wasn't for sporting events no adults would remember the words.

They don't even sing the whole thing during the events.........for reasons.

 

[Bob Coffee]

Projecting, I think cheeto fuhrer is afraid mueller is gonna pounce soon.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

It's pretty rich to ridicule other people's fears when you're scared of stairs.

 

[ManDudeChild]

Someone should really pass the memo on to Great Leader.

 

[TheCochese]

Someone should really pass the memo on to Great Leader.

They're going to have to rename that soon.

 

[GitarooMan]

"They have no choice" Man this guy doesn't even hide the fascism anymore

 

[jstripes]

Trump is stoking the fire on purpose because it plays to his fake patriotic base AND keeps attention away from much more pressing issues.

...and, if the Russia stuff is to believed, it draws further divisions in American society. A chronically dysfunctional USA was part of their geopolitical plan from 20 years ago.

 

[Spinluck]

I'll be very curious to see what happens in Green Bay tomorrow, with Aaron Rodgers asking the fans to take part as well.

Edit: Tonight actually on Thursday Night Football

Aaron needs to bend the knee.

Pls A A Ron, pls!

 

[Lord Error]

IMO, it's good that he's noticing this so much... I think? I mean what's the point of protesting something if everyone just brushes it off and ignores it. The controversy generated by this is what draws the attention to the cause, and I think the attention wouldn't be there nearly as much if they decided to start kneeling only after the anthem was over, or something like that.

 

[BassForever]

IMO, it's good that he's noticing this so much... I think? I mean what's the point of protesting something if everyone just brushes it off and ignores it. The controversy generated by this is what draws the attention to the cause, and I think the attention wouldn't be there nearly as much if they decided to start kneeling only after the anthem was over, or something like that.

The conern is if people start arguing about disrespecting the anthem or "protesting trump" and not the actual police brutalilty and racial injustice.

 

[TheJollyCorner]

I'll be very curious to see what happens in Green Bay tomorrow, with Aaron Rodgers asking the fans to take part as well.

Edit: Tonight actually on Thursday Night Football

Streaming on Amazon Prime™, too!

 

[Mathieran]

Nobody gives a fuck about the owners.

 

[Frozenprince]

They should be?

Employees are not slaves, Donald.