Trump Praises Saddam Hussein, Says He Killed Terrorists "Well"

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People defending Trump for this are blowing my fucking mind.

He's openly supporting the state-sponsored murder of citizens without due process, citing as an exemplar a dictator that massacred hundreds of thousands of his countrymen utilizing torture, rape, forced disappearances, assassinations, and chemical warfare.

Anyone saying Trump has a point here fucking terrify me.
 
People defending Trump for this are blowing my fucking mind.

He's openly supporting the state-sponsored murder of citizens without due process, citing as an exemplar a dictator that massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women, and children utilizing torture, rape, forced disappearances, assassinations, and chemical warfare.

Well, Saddam was kind enough to do it out of sight. All these atrocities getting into the news makes people feel bad about themselves as if they are somehow complicit by being in the West which is the real problem for them, far better for the killing to be 10 times worse but done in secret.
That bombing in Baghdad killed 200+ people, that was a below average day during the Al-Anfal campaign under Saddam for killing shia.
 
It was nothing like today's Iraq tho. Putting things in perspective most Iraqi citizens would gladly trade Saddam's dictatorship for the current mess.
Considering that Shia and Kurds make up the majority of Iraq's citizens, you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
A bit difficult for that to happen when there's no significantly larger militaristic nation state where some of its political elites has a grudge and clout to bring wrath upon the USA and kill Trump to as a show of force and action.

Also, the US has killed plenty more through its actions in Afghanistan and Iraq - (indirectly mostly) than Hussein has managed. Ironically most of it caused by deposing a relatively stable dictatorship that kept the reins on a very difficult to manage populace in check.

For whatever else you think about Hussein - it's clear that he understood Iraq much better than Americans could ever hope to do - and that misunderstanding has cost the lives of many by opening the proverbial Pandora's box in that region.
When you add on the military deaths from the wars he started to the civilian deaths it's not even close. Saddam was death incarnate.
 
As compared to Reagan, the president his entire party worships, who actually worked WITH Saddam and assisted him in using chemical weapons.

As usual, Trump just says out loud what the monsters in his party dared not say in public.
 
As much as people would want to ridicule this statement here, please be aware, that a huge fucking number of working class voters over 60 do share these views.
In the US, in Europe, in the UK everywhere. The strong hand that kept things in check (when in reality, things were much worse even under the brutal regime)
Same hogwash is why people admire Cunts like Tatcher, Tito and now coming back in style: Stalin.

This nostalgic Ignorance is highly dangerous, because it's so sweet and neatly wrapped up in it's own logical fallacy. What it actually entails is a complete and utter hatred for human rights.

I implore anyone old enough and able to vote, to stand against this. These people vote according to delusions and ignorance. Don't let your future be ruined by old selfish pricks who couldn't give a shit about your future.
 
He had the best teaching him so is no wonder .

Time to dig up this old classic when the 'The US made and armed Saddam' comes up.

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Hitler did some pretty extreme things, and we can go back and forth on how much his actions were justified, but you have to admit: that man could grow one hell of a Hitler stache. His facial stylings are iconic.

I know that in some circles people get sensitive when you say nice things about prominent figures that aren't in the PC police's good books. Let's focus on what's most important here: giving credit where it's due. Hitler had a fine, fine mustache, and whatever else he's rembered for, history will not forget his zesty, playful take on an old standby of men's fashion.

Might be the President we deserve
Even terminally stupid people don't deserve to die, and Trump's brain-dead plans on health care, social services, and safety nets for the poor would cost lives, to say nothing of his bigoted incitements to violence and recklessly glib foreign policy.
 
I don't know why this is getting play now. Praising Saddam for killing terrorists has been a staple of Trump's rallies, interviews, and debate performances for months now.
 
Time to dig up this old classic when the 'The US made and armed Saddam' comes up.

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Another very good example of a CIA-organized regime change was a coup in 1963 that employed political assassination, mass imprisonment, torture and murder. This was the military coup that first brought Saddam Hussein's beloved Ba'ath Party to power in Iraq. At the time, Richard Helms was Director for Plans at the CIA. That is the top CIA position responsible for covert actions, like organizing coups. Helms served in that capacity until 1966, when he was made Director.

In the quotations collected below, the name of the leader who was assassinated is spelled variously as Qasim, Qassim and Kassem. But, however you spell his name, when he took power in a popularly-backed coup in 1958, he certainly got recognized in Washington. He carried out such anti-American and anti-corporatist policies as starting the process of nationalizing foreign oil companies in Iraq, withdrawing Iraq from the US-initiated right-wing Baghdad Pact (which included another military-run, US-puppet state, i.e., Pakistan) and decriminalizing the Iraqi Communist Party. Despite these actions, and more likely because of them, he was Iraq's most popular leader. He had to go!

In 1959, there was a failed assassination attempt on Qasim. The failed assassin was none other than a young Saddam Hussein. In 1963, a CIA-organized coup did successfully assassinate Qasim and Saddam's Ba'ath Party came to power for the first time. Saddam returned from exile in Egypt and took up the key post as head of Iraq's secret service. The CIA then provided the new pliant, Iraqi regime with the names of thousands of communists, and other leftist activists and organizers. Thousands of these supporters of Qasim and his policies were soon dead in a rampage of mass murder carried out by the CIA's close friends in Iraq.

Iraq is once again a target of US regime change. Despite that, precious little is being said by the corporate media about how the CIA aided and abetted political assassination, regime change and mass murder, all in the name of putting Saddam's Ba'ath power into power for the first time in Iraq.

One thing is for sure, the US will find it much harder to remove the Ba'ath Party from power in Iraq than they did putting them in power back in 1963. If more people knew about this diabolical history, they just might not be so inclined to trust the US in its current efforts to execute regime change in Iraq.

Here then are some quotations that I've gathered on this fascinating early history of CIA involvement in the vicious history of regime change in Iraq:

In early 1963, Saddam had more important things to worry about than his outstanding bill at the Andiana Cafe. On February 8, a military coup in Baghdad, in which the Baath Party played a leading role, overthrew Qassim. Support for the conspirators was limited. In the first hours of fighting, they had only nine tanks under their control. The Baath Party had just 850 active members. But Qassim ignored warnings about the impending coup. What tipped the balance against him was the involvement of the United States. He had taken Iraq out of the anti-Soviet Baghdad Pact. In 1961, he threatened to occupy Kuwait and nationalized part of the Iraq Petroleum Company (IPC), the foreign oil consortium that exploited Iraq's oil. In retrospect, it was the ClAs favorite coup. We really had the ts crossed on what was happening, James Critchfield, then head of the CIA in the Middle East, told us. We regarded it as a great victory. Iraqi participants later confirmed American involvement. We came to power on a CIA train, admitted Ali Saleh Sa'adi, the Baath Party secretary general who was about to institute an unprecedented reign of terror. CIA assistance reportedly included coordination of the coup plotters from the agency's station inside the U.S. embassy in Baghdad as well as a clandestine radio station in Kuwait and solicitation of advice from around the Middle East on who on the left should be eliminated once the coup was successful. To the end, Qassim retained his popularity in the streets of Baghdad. After his execution, his sup- porters refused to believe he was dead until the coup leaders showed pictures of his bullet-riddled body on TV and in the newspapers.




http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/51/217.html




much more at the link , but this is for another topic.
 
Maybe Donald need some teaching cause the best "weapon" against terrorism is abolishing religion, social classes and most importantly real free education for all.
What Saddam did there are the consequences which people in middle east are feeling now.
Maybe as he was alive we didn't hear much but it was meant to happen as is always the rule of violence.
"Abolishing religion" is impossible. Giving more people religious freedom makes more sense
 
"Abolishing religion" is impossible. Giving more people religious freedom makes more sense
I the millenias which we as species have evolved and conquered our fears one by one its time to abolish religion to and conquer our fear of death .
It is time to take one more tool from people who use the naivity and missinformation of the uneducated and make them unit to their personal goal whom the consecuences have been bloodbath for million upon millions of human beings .
Take away one more tool which divide us with no practical or real explanation and give birth to power vacums which some welthy men use against us .
 
I the millenias which we as species have evolved and conquered our fears one by one its time to abolish religion to and conquer our fear of death .

He's saying it's impossible because how the fuck do you abolish religion? When you do that, religion doesn't go away, it just goes underground.
 
He's saying it's impossible because how the fuck do you abolish religion? When you do that, religion doesn't go away, it just goes underground.

I think it can be done give it enough time and resurces to education ( generetions) .
With Trump getting traction it does seem more more a way .
 
I the millenias which we as species have evolved and conquered our fears one by one its time to abolish religion to and conquer our fear of death .
It is time to take one more tool from people who use the naivity and missinformation of the uneducated and make them unit to their personal goal whom the consecuences have been bloodbath for million upon millions of human beings .
Take away one more tool which divide us with no practical or real explanation and give birth to power vacums which some welthy men use against us .

I feel that millenias just replaced religion with conspiracy theories and internet memes.

Nothing has truly changed, except for the vehicle.
 
This kind of thinking is what puts people in concentration camps for suspicious activity. Unless you are Captain America and just always fucking right, you can't ever be "sure" about someone's criminal activity unless you HAVE due process to ensure you are right.

Wait he probably does think he's Captain America.
 
I feel that millenias just replaced religion with conspiracy theories and internet memes.

Nothing has truly changed, except for the vehicle.

Evolution is open endet it does not stop to one step .
its just very sad reality to have given up let as a society to a person like Trump to get traction using thos very tools which dont help but hinder our well being as a complet person .
 
This kind of thinking is what puts people in concentration camps for suspicious activity. Unless you are Captain America and just always fucking right, you can't ever be "sure" about someone's criminal activity unless you HAVE due process to ensure you are right.

Wait he probably does think he's Captain America.

Pretty Sure Captain America has been leading a terrorist Cell for his past 2 solo films in the MCU. So that comparison doesn't even hold up
 
I'm not all that enamoured of abolishing religion as a magic solution to problems, but if that's what you want to do it seems clear that religious freedom and high standards of living are slowly doing the job in the West already.
 
It was nothing like today's Iraq tho. Putting things in perspective most Iraqi citizens would gladly trade Saddam's dictatorship for the current mess.

Ha ha ha ha you what mate.

You're comparing the mafia regime of the ba'athists who strangled the country's economy and culture for decades and the warlord fundamentalism that has taken over. It is the most galling kind of fatalist logic to say that people would rather have one despot over being ruled by thousands of murderers.

This is the 21st century equivalent of Mussolini getting the trains to run on time.
 
Still, people are unable to view the Middle East conflicts through a Cold War prism.

And the new Cold War where Saudi Arabia and Iran are fighting their proxy wars in Iraq, Syria and Yemen. But it's easier to just blame Bush and Blair as if they had personally been handing out orders for suicide bombings to be carried out.
 
I imagined this would be an old quote that was dug up, but he actually thought of saying this while running for president?
 
How many days until the election? I feel like the humour in all this wore off a long time ago. Looking forward to TV debates though where Hillary will thrash him and pick apart his nonsense arguments.

The American public isn't intelligent enough to care whether he wins or loses his arguments, unfortunately. It's going to be Hillary wrestling a pig.
 
We done fucked up when we invaded Iraq with our illegal war. And it is true that the region would be far more stable today, and that it would be a safer place to live (for MOST) if Saddam were still in power.

On the other hand, Trump, you fuckwit, Saddam is no fucking role model for either domestic or foreign policy, and nobody to be praised. Christ.

ONLY because state sponsored terrorism was easier to track than the type of terrorism some people in that region are doing today.

And yea trump is a dictator.
 
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