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Trump setting new records for low presidential approval

Another thing about the Nate Silver article: Trump's numbers will only go below if he turns around on his or promises in the campaign trail. This means that we should all be clamoring for the border wall fight. The tax and infrastructure fight will not be very kind to him either.

Sadly, the Charlottesville thing didn't affect his numbers very much since that is already 'priced in'. At least good third of this country really are racists pieces of shits as well.
 
I'm just disappointed that his ratings didn't slip into the 20's after Charlottesville. But expecting too much from my country only leads to disappointment.
 

KSweeley

Member
AP updated the article, Trump's average approval rating is worse than Jimmy Carter and first year Presidents usually have a honeymoon period for approval ratings, Trump is the first President to not have a honeymoon period:

Plunging into undesirably unchartered territory, Trump is setting new records with his dismally low approval ratings, including the lowest mark ever for a president in his first year. In fact, with four months left in the year, Trump has already spent more time under 40 percent than any other first-year president.

At 34 percent, his current approval rating is worse than former President Barack Obama’s ever was.

Trump’s early descent in the polls defies some longstanding patterns about how Americans view their president. Such plunges are often tied to external forces that the president only partially controls, such as a sluggish economy or an all-consuming international crisis. In Trump’s case, the economy is humming and the foreign crises have been kept to a minimum.

Americans also tend to be optimistic about their new leaders, typically cutting them some slack during their early days in office. Not with Trump.

“Most presidents begin with a honeymoon period and then go down from that, and Trump had no honeymoon,” said Gallup editor-in-chief Frank Newport.

Trump is now viewed positively by only 37 percent of Americans, according to Gallup’s most recent weekly estimate. (Obama’s lowest weekly average never fell below 40 percent.) It’s even lower — just 34 percent — in Gallup’s shorter, three-day average, which includes more recent interviews but can also involve more random variation.

Since Gallup began tracking presidential approval, four presidents — Harry Truman, Gerald Ford, Jimmy Carter and George H.W. Bush — spent significant time below 40 percent during their first four years. Clinton’s and Ronald Reagan’s forays below the 40 percent mark also came during their first terms. But neither stayed there long.

Of those who spent at least a few months below 40 percent approval in a first term, only one — Truman — recovered enough to win re-election.

Still, several others reached lows at some point in their presidency that are worse than Trump’s, including several who dropped below 30 percent.

Truman hit 22 percent in February 1952, during a drawn-out Korean War stalemate and accusations of corruption in his administration. Richard Nixon hit 24 percent at the height of the Watergate scandal just before his resignation in 1974. Carter bottomed out at 28 percent in the summer of 1979, amid that year’s oil crisis.

Trump’s average approval rating so far: Just 40 percent. That’s even lower than the previous average low for a first-term president, 46 percent, set by Carter.
 
AP updated the article, Trump's average approval rating is worse than Jimmy Carter and first year Presidents usually have a honeymoon period for approval ratings, Trump is the first President to not have a honeymoon period:
His "honeymoon" put his approval ratings on par with a third-year president after everyone's sick of them and looking at other options.

And it only got worse.
 

Zolo

Member
His "honeymoon" put his approval ratings on par with a third-year president after everyone's sick of them and looking at other options.

And it only got worse.

Polls show there was a period of people willing to give him a chance.....then he did the Muslim ban within his first week in office.
 
At least he's accomplished something Obama was never able to. Kudos to him
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For some reason, the Ahmadinejad face is oddly appropriate. lmao
 

CazTGG

Member
AP updated the article, Trump's average approval rating is worse than Jimmy Carter and first year Presidents usually have a honeymoon period for approval ratings, Drumpf is the first President to not have a honeymoon period:

This is the honeymoon period. It will drop like a rock after the wall is abandoned and we see the, in all likelihood, Dubya level response to Hurricane Harvey. Truman got as low as 22 if memory serves me, let's see if Trump breaks that record.

Was George W. Bush using Border Patrol checkpoints during Katrina to check the papers of people fleeing from Katrina?

Sure, i'll bite. I'm using Dubya as a shorthand for "person who mishandles the hell out of a natural disaster".
 

KSweeley

Member
This is the honeymoon period. It will drop like a rock after the wall is abandoned and we see the, in all likelihood, Dubya level response to Hurricane Harvey. Truman got as low as 22 if memory serves me, let's see if Trump breaks that record.

Was George W. Bush using Border Patrol checkpoints during Katrina to check the papers of people fleeing from Katrina?
 

BajiBoxer

Banned
Good article from Nate Silver on how to read Trump's approval rating:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/7-rules-for-reading-trumps-approval-rating/

Basically, his approval rating has been regressing linearly.

Social and cultural shit probably won't affect him a great deal because his approval rating is already so low, and that stuff is mostly locked in along partisan lines right now.

Best guess from Silver for his floor is low to mid 20's. The % of Republicans who said they would vote for him no matter in that Monmouth poll represents about 23% of the population. That's about the % of voters in all primaries who voted for him.

Over the long term, polls are mostly unpredictable, but the average gives him a range of 13% either way. So he could be at 50%, could be at 23% by mid terms. Who knows.

Republicans are generally racist, so they don't care much about Trump being a white supremicist. That's what they voted for, but other promises broken will eat into his approval ratings.
 
What's up with people saying he can't go lower when he sets a new low approval record every week?

Maybe I don't get polling. But I feel like I've been hearing "he's hit his base" for like months now.
 

night814

Member
Has pardoning Joey Asshole done him any favors or dipped him more?
That just happened but it likely won't, he's done far worse already than pardoning an asshole who was blatantly profiling.

It will keep dropping people. We are hardly an 8th through his first term, assuming of course he finishes his term(hopefully not).
 
Has pardoning Joey Asshole done him any favors or dipped him more?

If the 538 article is to be believed, it probably won't. Anyone who would leave Trump over something like that has already left. The things driving his lower approval ratings are stuff that voters didn't expect out of him - belligerence towards NK, interventionist foreign policy in Afghanistan, the Comey firing, and health care, for starters.
 

Zolo

Member
If the 538 article is to be believed, it probably won't. Anyone who would leave Trump over something like that has already left. The things driving his lower approval ratings are stuff that voters didn't expect out of him - belligerence towards NK, interventionist foreign policy in Afghanistan, the Comey firing, and health care, for starters.

Yeah. To get lower, things have to happen that will personally affect those voters.
 

Sean C

Member
Yeah. To get lower, things have to happen that will personally affect those voters.
Certain portions of his base will only transition to disapproval as the administration drags on and the various unicorns he promised them fail to materialize.

I'd be pretty sure that coal country will be spitting blood by the end of this term, for instance.
 
Certain portions of his base will only transition to disapproval as the administration drags on and the various unicorns he promised them fail to materialize.

I'd be pretty sure that coal country will be spitting blood by the end of this term, for instance.
Yeah, that industry has no future and Trump promising them the moon and back will only result in heartache. And at that point in the presidency, you cant blame Obama anymore so this will all be on Trump.

Manufacturing jobs not coming back as much as hoped will also do it to a lesser degree.
 

Fantastapotamus

Wrong about commas, wrong about everything
*Trump opens GAF*
"Trump setting new records"
Trump: "Awesome!"
*Closes tab*

This is legitimately how I envision this guy
 

digdug2k

Member
It's hard to believe the party that controls the entire got has given us the two worst presidents in us history and both during my lifetime.
 

rSpooky

Member
It's hard to believe the party that controls the entire got has given us the two worst presidents in us history and both during my lifetime.
It is hard to believe that people fall for their shit every fucking time and vote for them even when it is proven fact everyone is worse off afterwards
.every ...damn...time...!

Bunch of impatience goldfish, the lot of em.
 

Dyle

Member
Trump's approval rate will only continue to slide, but it's going to do so more and more slowly given how deluded anyone who still supports him is. I'm not even confident that screwing up tax reform and the border wall will even hurt him, when I could see his supporters just blaming it on the Congressional Republicans.

It's hard to believe the party that controls the entire got has given us the two worst presidents in us history and both during my lifetime.
No way dude, imo George W. was nowhere near as bad as James Buchanan, who did nothing to ease the impending civil war, Andrew Johnson, who sabotaged Reconstruction, or Andrew Jackson, who committed genocide. Bottom five are definitely Buchanan, Johnson, Jackson, George W., and Trump though there is room to disagree on how bad each one was

2 of the worst 5 over the course of 20 years is a pretty horrific track record
 
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