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Trump to end Obamacare Subsidies
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whyamihere
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what fun.
old manatee
Banned
It's called Republicare or Trumpcare. Obamacare doesn't exist anymore.
StopMakingSense
Member
Rates should all be locked in for 2018. Should be a big jump for every ACA plan hitting right before the midterm elections though.
jack_package_200
Banned
But her emails
whyamihere
Banned
Does he hate congressional Republicans that much?
he doesn't care
It's almost like they will and it's literally been an hour!
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
People will react in certain ways when their lives are threatened.
Flying Toaster
Member
He does not care about the Republicans. Look at his disdain for the party he ran with. No F's given.
chaos789
Banned
It wouldn't be the first time. He cut health insurance to his nephew and his family while their newborn son was battling a rare neurological disease.
That we know.
But he does care about himself. He's probably not even aware of the math, because that would require reading.
Flying Toaster
Member
I would love to see who does not come for his head. This is not how the Republicans in congress wanted to handle this. This is a man that is having a tantrum.
Randolph Freelander
Member
He has a single thought bouncing around his head at all times. "I hate Obama, I hate Obama, I hate Obama." It's all he hears, it's all he thinks about.
Because that's all he saw on Fox News for 8 years. The man is a moron.
Is this actually an illegal move? I thought this was within the rights of the President to do, which is why so many were worried about him pulling this when all the repeal attempts failed.
Yeah, never in history has Democrats made gains in midterm elections. It's time to give up for good
Yeah, never in history has Democrats made gains in midterm elections. It's time to give up for good
HomerSimpson-Man
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chaos789
Banned
I wish the Republicans would grow a spine and impeach his ass. He is unfit to be president. The man is threatening nuclear war and probably says to himself afterwards "I bet that improves my ratings."
buttery fistful
Member
Where are the people that are supposed to prevent him from doing something so utterly disastrous?
They just want their tax bill passed.
Afterwards, who knows... You may actually find some people in his party speaking out against him. Well, more than there is now.
LMAO. Looking forward to the backlash.
Lock for what? Dem's taking control of the house or senate is still a longshot. Republicans in republican areas aren't voting for dems and there aren't enough purple areas to make up the difference.
Laevateinn
Member
How is this even an option? These subsidies are mandated by law.
People keep parroting this. The Senate is a Longshot, yes, but the House isn't. There's only a 24 seat difference, and they actually won some seats last year despite everything O believe, and this is even with the crazy gerrymandering!
But eh, it doesn't matter. Everyone here has obviously given up hope already, so it doesn't matter
Laevateinn
Member
Gerrymandering doesn't matter when you're fucking terrible.
Yeah, I'm pretty tired of the fatalism around here.
UnemployedVillain
Member
Fuck every person who voted for Trump
Fuck every Republican, who have done nothing, but condone and helped his agenda
Fuck Trump and his entire administration
Fuck every Republican, who have done nothing, but condone and helped his agenda
Fuck Trump and his entire administration
By the way Congress can pass legislation to fund the CSR subsidies again. In fact several Republicans have indicated that theyd be in favor of doing so, and of course all Democrats would be. Please please call your congresspeople to urge them to do this, especially if theyre Republican. I will be doing so as well.
hodayathink
Member
Yeah, if there were ever going to be a positive out of this, it could/would be that Trump getting rid of EOs on the most positive Obama stuff (this, DREAMers) could force Congress to act to officially legislate these things so that they aren't at the whims of the executive branch. But you need to putting the pressure on Republicans to do so.
whyamihere
Banned
It's a way people deal with the current reality. It is what it is, I guess. But it's frustrating.
Randolph Freelander
Member
White House confirms in the most Trump way possible.
"Law and order every time, that's us."
"Law and order every time, that's us."
Do we know when it takes effect? This can, and likely will, be fought in court correct?
Wouldn't count on Congress doing a fucking thing, sadly. Donors are starting to get uppity about tax reform, so you better believe that's going to be their only focus for the foreseeable future.
'See? Obamacare is failing on its own... Just like I said it would!'
It remains to be seen if the Dems can convince people otherwise. I'm not sold.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Obama's legacy getting ripped to shreds with each executive order. Everything good he did is so easily dismantled i don't think he was as good a president as we all think he was.
What a fucking distaster.
What a fucking distaster.
Read the official statement. His justification is that these were illegal payments to prop up a broken healthcare system and congress hasn't done their promise to repeal and replace yet.
DJ Lushious
Member
How do we recover from this, yet another body blow? 10 months of this whack-a-doodle shit with little-to-no-restraint on the 45th?
I can barely afford the $263.56 insurance bill I pay every month. Now I get to look forward to it being over $325?! And with less coverage, Im certain. I cant even begin to imagine what those afflicted with a pre-existing condition are feeling.
Were either going to be protesting in the streets or dying in them; Im not so certain either are going to affect those in power. The Republicans have been up-righting this tentpole for a while. Large corporations can now donate to politicians through Super PACs and lobbyism is a HUGE industry. Until someone writes a really large check to the politicians, with the middle and lower class in mind, our days are numbered.
Theyre expecting the Illinois Governor race to exceed the record of highest amount spent for a statewide office at $300,000,000!
So, as an actual question, what current filthy-rich or powerful politician really has the middle and lower income class back?
Saint Gregory
Member
White House confirms in the most Trump way possible.
"Law and order every time, that's us."
They have the nerve to talk about "abused taxpayer dollars"? This administration? They got some balls though, I'll give them that.
Interesting, is the deficit increase caused by the increased premiums and thus increased subsidies to consumers?
It's being dismantled because every trace of decency is being annihilated from the American political system due to overwhelming racism. No President before Obama ever had to deal with anything close to this.
I'm no expert but... I believe so? Someone else should probably answer this I guess.
While the amount of dark money is definitely a huge issue in our politics, it's also not an automatic win, either. Clinton spent more than Trump on her campaign, for instance. An even more recent example is the Alabama special election where Strange had way more money than Moore did
Electric Eye
Banned
He's punishing his direct base including Republican governors who know this is political suicide for them and who fucking strangle their representatives for allowing this to happen. Also, good luck with that tax reform GOP your leader just blew it up.
Pretty much. You basically need enough money to make sure to get your name out there and what you stand for.
hodayathink
Member
I believe that 2018 rates are already locked in, so any increase in premiums doesn't take effect until next year, but I don't know what happens to the people actually trying to buy insurance with the help of the subsidies before then.