TRUTHFACT: MS having eSRAM yield problems on Xbox One
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If (IF) senjetsu's source is who he says it was, then he was legit. Its a big if, mind you, as only mods who he spoke to would know. It's not a low-level employee. It's someone who is very involved with game tech at a large first party studio, if he was telling the truth about it. This is probably why people confused him for a "PR shill" if he was friends or in contact with such an individual.
He also claimed to hear about esram-related yields, just as myself, thu and others (like buttocks, who has a near flawless track record) but not of any down clocking. We may honestly never find out if that's what happened outside of leaks after launch, as MS will be borrowing from the book of Nintendo in regards to specs at e3.
But eventually the truth will come out whether he was right or not. Probably not soon though. I'm sure he was banned for swearing at another member. Not sure if it was perm or not, but maybe the mods could clear that up as well as maybe comment on whether his source was validated.
Officerrob
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Thank god we have people who can translate CBoaT's gibberish. I appreciate his info, but geeze some of that crap is hard to understand
disastermouse
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It really isn't.
vpance
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Deep down he will always have love for Xbone.
You've got a point. Alright, I'll lighten up on the guy.
MrTroubleMaker
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:O can't wait for the other news CBoat
anexanhume
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Neuromancer
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May the road rise up to meet you, and may the wind be always at your back.
If Dead Rising 3 becomes an exclusive, I will just... I will be sad. With my face.
He said Dead Space 3 had a lack of emphasis on horror and would become a shootbang--it didn't, but he was right about the co-op.
I didn't know Remember Me was a PS3 exclusive. I remember back when it was first being demoed, and they hadn't even found a publisher... maybe things happened in the interim that I wasn't aware of.
new favorite phrase from the internet
Brad Grenz
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The problem is bkillian's theory only works if the downclocking part isn't true. Yields are nobody's business but Microsoft's, until they have to inform developers all over the place they are downgrading the target specs. By bkillian's reasoning CBOAT knowing could be a confirmation of both the yield problems, AND the clock speed of the GPU being reduced.
Forceatowulf
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Yo.. damn.
maximum360
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Alright can we start a CBOAT meme? He be dropping dem shells.
ducks = Sony?
edit: Haha, josh nice translation.
Hydrargyrus
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Can't wait to see the new CBoAT info... this is better than TV!!
fallingdove
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So E3 kicks off with a cboat truthfact exclusive. Nice.
Pristine_Condition
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I don't know what's up with him, but he doesn't know how business works if he thinks that the big publishers would accept a "someone from outside it would not be hearing anything about it" situation concerning an issue that could impact the number of salable units of a major new platform that they have a major cash investment of their own in.
Knowing in advance that a console would have a significantly lower unit number than originally estimated at roll-out could save a publisher tens of millions of dollars just in promotional money alone.
As I pointed out in my previous post, IMO, the main problem with bkillian's theory is that it requires basically one's belief that publishers don't care about money. IMO, anyone who believes that is either a fool, or has an agenda that goes beyond an obligation/desire to find the truth.
I can't fathom a world where publishers would be blissfuly ignorant of how things are going on the manufacturing end when they have so much planned and invested in that product.
Maybe he got banned because the verification of his source, a mod asked for, failed.
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Maybe it was a ban based be on his cumulative defensive behavior.
I hope I'll find out if bishop decides to release the PR agency email address user list because I actually feel sorry for calling him out. If he was a viral, then being on gaf was just business. If he wasn't, I think it's pretty sad/stupid to defend a company to the grave by pathological lying about having a source. I'm sensitive about stuff like that.
Psycho_Mantis
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M°°nblade;61922057 said:
Bish is going to make a thread to weed out these astroturfers. Going to be great.
DOJ just got the go ahead to tap CBoat's phone, NSA is on it. At the request of MS of course. He's going down.
Wolves Evolve
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There was mention of a 2-day amnesty. Own up in two days, or be revealed in public.
The traditional way would be to punish the innocent. For every MS or Sony paid shill, the mods give a 48 hour ban to anybody who say something positive about either console - and bans the shill. So the net effect is worse than just being caught.
Wickerbasket
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I thought that's what the Xbox DRM threads were for.
Anyone that's trying to tell you that less is more has to be a bit nutty.
Baron Aloha
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I kind of hope CBoat goes into hiding and doesn't reveal another TruthFact. I have a feeling someone might be on to him and gave him this latest information so that when he leaks it they will know who he is.
What are you talking about?
No one is on to him becuz he tepys leki a fuerkng reatad aen no oedn kneows weho eh is.
Really. He's obfuscated the shit out of his posts. Not sure if machine obfuscation or human, even. There's no pattern. Whoever he is, he's covered his tracks. mturk / Amazon has a "writer confirmation" ongoing solution. CBOAT would never be discovered. I suspect he writes what he wants and runs it through some kind of random obfuscation software.
This is NeoGAF, 99.9% of users who write like that get banned on discovery. He's used his reputation to allow him to obfuscate the fuck about what he posts, and his track record is impeccable. The mods allow it because it's fuckin' awesome.
CBOAT has nothing to fear. Release the details CBOAT. It'll be epic.
Thank you for everything! Good luck!
I think estimates were around 420mm². based on the image we saw of the internals.
Best of luck CBoaT.
bigbaldwolf86
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It was only a matter of time before he was banned. tbh I'm suprised he lasted as long as he did
420mm²???????
Holy shit, if true no wonder they have yield issues!!
Their APU diz size is bigger than the 7970 GPU's one!
Gemüsepizza
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What a dumb statement. People don't want the Xbox One to fail, but the philosophy/strategy behind it, and they want Sony's philosophy/strategy to win. But I guess this fits better in the other thread.
Lol Brad
Oh Bradley... Taking this whole thing too personally.
The APU is at least 400m^2. Its probably somewhere between 400-420mm^2.
Yes its huge, and yes a good large chunk of that is the eSRAM.
I remember Brad talking up how graphics don't really matter and how the two systems are the same. He was talking about how the eSRAM makes it so the systems are almost even in terms of performance.
He later changed his mind when others like Digital Foundry spelled out that he was wrong.
I'm pretty sure CBOAT is fair about the rumors he reports. I don't know if the same could be said of Brad's analysis.
*sigh*
It is the whole chip containing APU, Move Units, ESRAM and memory controller...
Hypereides
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DMA units really wouldn't be that big. The memory controller wouldn't either.
But the eSRAM? its probably at least 1/4th the entire thing. Probably more.
Eliciel
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With this statement he basically says: "Ok I'm a Xbone Fanboy".
Did you even listen to anything we said on the forums, on twitter Brad? Seriosuly, did you?
Yes i know that, but still doesnt change it's going to be horrific to manufacture in the first months. I also doubt the XB1 is going to be cheap at retail.
Also, the people that came up with the information about the eSRAM having yield issues are pretty reputable sources that do not have a system bias it would seem. Brad seems to be invested in sugarcoating and rationalizing decisions made by Microsoft.
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