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TSA shuts down NJ airport terminal, baby went through security unchecked by screener

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TheNatural

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This is fucking ridiculous.

OK, yeah, a cutthroat terrorist *could* put a bomb on a baby, liquid explosive in a bottle, a bomb on the bar of some hot 34D chick.

But seriously, why the fuck have planes become the sacred cow of ultra-defense to such things? How many people are on board - 100 or so? Just because 9-11 happened doesn't mean there's dozens of pilot terrorists who are ready to fly a plane into a building, and an armed security guard with armed pilot and deadlocked cockpit should prevent that.

My point is, put 100 people in a plane that could be taken out by a bomb, and security procedures are higher than anything else civilian wise in the US. Put 1,000 people in a section completely unsecured at hundreds of football games, college or pro, each week in the fall - and anyone can get in.

Yes there should be security for planes, but its amazing the degree this has gone to with little more than psychological motive for the security rather than the actual degree of damage done. Put 100 in the air, its run like Fort Knox. Put 10 times as many people in a public area and you could probably pass through naked. It's ridiculous.
 

eastmen

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This is fucking ridiculous.

OK, yeah, a cutthroat terrorist *could* put a bomb on a baby, liquid explosive in a bottle, a bomb on the bar of some hot 34D chick.

But seriously, why the fuck have planes become the sacred cow of ultra-defense to such things? How many people are on board - 100 or so? Just because 9-11 happened doesn't mean there's dozens of pilot terrorists who are ready to fly a plane into a building, and an armed security guard with armed pilot and deadlocked cockpit should prevent that.

My point is, put 100 people in a plane that could be taken out by a bomb, and security procedures are higher than anything else civilian wise in the US. Put 1,000 people in a section completely unsecured at hundreds of football games, college or pro, each week in the fall - and anyone can get in.

Yes there should be security for planes, but its amazing the degree this has gone to with little more than psychological motive for the security rather than the actual degree of damage done. Put 100 in the air, its run like Fort Knox. Put 10 times as many people in a public area and you could probably pass through naked. It's ridiculous.

Its all about control. The wany to train us to expect this kind of buillshit so that when they roll it out into other aspects of our lives there is even less of a fight against it .
 
Here's a fun little story:
In December, 2001 after the airports re-opened I was placed on the wrong flight. All the gates were group together so you would go to a single access for 15 gates. I was told what gate to go to and went there. I show them the ticket, and they say 'yep this is your flight'. I was going to Denver and Ended up in LA. The funny/stupid thing is that my bag stay on the flight to denver and was picked up by my parents. So I checked into a flight, checked a bag, never showed up at the gate and the bag still flew just two months after the attacks. That has been my level of confidence in the TSA since then.
 

TheNatural

My Member!
Here's a fun little story:
In December, 2001 after the airports re-opened I was placed on the wrong flight. All the gates were group together so you would go to a single access for 15 gates. I was told what gate to go to and went there. I show them the ticket, and they say 'yep this is your flight'. I was going to Denver and Ended up in LA. The funny/stupid thing is that my bag stay on the flight to denver and was picked up by my parents. So I checked into a flight, checked a bag, never showed up at the gate and the bag still flew just two months after the attacks. That has been my level of confidence in the TSA since then.

LOL wow. At which point did you realize you were heading towards, or even in LA and your response?

"Gee its unseasonably warm for Colorado in December. That John Denver was full of shit."
 

sangreal

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Here's a fun little story:
In December, 2001 after the airports re-opened I was placed on the wrong flight. All the gates were group together so you would go to a single access for 15 gates. I was told what gate to go to and went there. I show them the ticket, and they say 'yep this is your flight'. I was going to Denver and Ended up in LA. The funny/stupid thing is that my bag stay on the flight to denver and was picked up by my parents. So I checked into a flight, checked a bag, never showed up at the gate and the bag still flew just two months after the attacks. That has been my level of confidence in the TSA since then.

This can happen easily in a lot of airports. PWM is an example. You show your ticket at the door to the jetway, but that just leads to a hall with 3 or 4 planes you could board

Not sure how you did this by accident though since every flight announces their destination over the PA incase someone boarded the wrong flight. Blah blah blah with service to..
 

Joates

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If this security shit is really that important, where no mishaps can be afforded, why do they insist on having the dumbest mother fuckers alive working in and supervising these positions.
 
This can happen easily in a lot of airports. PWM is an example. You show your ticket at the door to the jetway, but that just leads to a hall with 3 or 4 planes you could board

Not sure how you did this by accident though since every flight announces their destination over the PA incase someone boarded the wrong flight. Blah blah blah with service to..
At the time they weren't announcing it. You would get screened and then show the ticket and they would tell you were to go (this was in Kansas City). So they said the wrong gate which is ok, but whomever checked my ticket at the gate didn't even see it. they looked and said 'you are the last one on' and I got seated. I'm way more concerned that the bag still made it.
 

jaxword

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If this security shit is really that important, where no mishaps can be afforded, why do they insist on having the dumbest mother fuckers alive working in and supervising these positions.

Because it's SECURITY THEATER. Which means it's just there to provide the illusion of safety so people calm down, which means they don't really need experts to do it. Some highschool dropout can stand around and wave a metal detector for 8 hours.
 
People have become Sheeple is the problem.

We refuse to use tools that pretty much the entire civilized world uses and claim some sense of superiority cause of it and instead decide to punish everyone.

We have toddlers being patted down and felt up by these government goons all for the facade of fairness and security.

The underwear bomber went through the great security in europe.
I don't understand how they are better than us.
 

sangreal

Member
Yeah all those terrorist attacks sure seem evidence of this!

There is evidence of that in Afghanistan for example. Rectal bombs too, which can't be detected by the new scanners. There is nothing you can do outside of Intelligence operations to prevent a suicide bomber. You could kill just as many people in a TSA line as on an airplane. Trains and buses are frequent targets of terrorism (see 7/7 for a big example) yet we aren't terrified to board a train without security. The entire idea of airplane security is stupid.
 

Stinkles

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There is evidence of that in Afghanistan for example. Rectal bombs too, which can't be detected by the new scanners. There is nothing you can do outside of Intelligence operations to prevent a suicide bomber. You could kill just as many people in a TSA line as on an airplane. Trains and buses are frequent targets of terrorism (see 7/7 for a big example) yet we aren't terrified to board a train without security. The entire idea of airplane security is stupid.

Plane crashes are spectacular and therefore attractive to people who's sole goal is publicity and symbolism.
 

Dali

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I fully expected Shotgun Kiss to be one of these new crop of juniors because of the necro bump. I suppose it's easier to zombify random threads about tsa babies than one would think.


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Damn, that baby a full grown adult now, this thread so mummy.

Lol, nice.
 
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