nkarafo
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What magnitude of earthquakes do construct regulations cover? I assume any building should withstand the strongest reported earthquakes?
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Turkey and Syria hit with 7.8 richter massive earth quake
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What magnitude of earthquakes do construct regulations cover? I assume any building should withstand the strongest reported earthquakes?
MaestroMike
Gold Member
RIP. 
Blitzmangoman
Member
Don't know, what I do know is that buildings shouldn't fall like cardhouses.
Lukaku's First Touch
Member
They're going to have to check every building for structural damage...
Tams
Member
I mean, yes, that's exactly it.
I'm not saying that it never happens in richer, more developed countries*, but nowhere near as much.
*Decades ago a relative of mine was consulted on a nuclear powerplant construction. He provided them with a design that incorporated earthquake protection. They laughed at him, 'We don't get earthquakes here!' Two weeks later an earthquake struck. They grovelled back to him, but he told them to eat dirt.
Kadve
Member
Magnitude != damage. Building codes in the west (Japan and China have their own scales) are instead based on a scale known as the Modified Mercalli intensity scale (MMI) which calculates the potential damage caused by earthquakes and takes factors such as depth, earthquake type, soil, location, population density and other such things into account.
In general though its said that buildings designed for such needs to withstand an MMI of at least 7 and no building, no matter how "earthquake proof" can survive a MMI of 10 (scale goes up to 12). This one was a 9 so had more precautions been taken more people would definitely have survived.
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adamosmaki
Member
I feel sorry for the people there. I live in Cyprus which is close and we definitely felt the earthquake . Scary shit. Meanwhile i read on local news Erdogan government refused help from Cyprus.
Nintendo's Witch
Member
What a fucking tragedy.
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
There is a very active user with Turkish flag as DP, right? I hope he/she is ok.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
This one is really good showing the terror.
Is that a storm or powerlines arching ?
And then it gets dark. Movie level shit as if these people didn't had it bad enough
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Look at that bus shaking. Holy shit. And this is on the ground level
FunkMiller
Member
I feel doubly sad for the Turkish people, because not only do they have to go through a horrific earthquake, they also have a fucking terrible government to deal with the aftermath.
FunkMiller
Member
Erdogan and his corrupt government banning social media so people can’t share how bad it is, and how bad they’re handling it… and cunts that are on social media starting conspiracy theories about the quake being deliberately engineered by the west.
We truly are in the worst timeline.
We truly are in the worst timeline.
IDKFA
I am Become Bilbo Baggins
I came across some crazy people yesterday who were claiming the earthquake was a hoax, and the footage of buildings falling were controlled demolitions.
Social media was a mistake.
Insane Metal
Member
>15k dead now. Jesus Christ. 
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
They're talking about much bigger numbers, I hope it's not true. It is said that 6444 buildings have collapsed so far, "officially". Most buildings had more than 4 floors (some of them had 8-10 floors, maybe more). Generally there are 2-4 flats on each floor.>15k dead now. Jesus Christ.
Insane Metal
Member
Considering how fast the death toll is going up I don't doubt this. This is such a tragedy. May the dead rest in peace and God comfort the hearts of those who survived but lost their families.
Liljagare
Member
Horrible.
Hope that the population finds out though where Erdogan spent those 33 billion of the earthquake relief fund, so they can hold their government responsible for the lack of internal disaster support.
Also, Cyprus offers help, and just gets told no? Turkey is still sticking to it's crap during this???
Time for a upper management change.
Hope that the population finds out though where Erdogan spent those 33 billion of the earthquake relief fund, so they can hold their government responsible for the lack of internal disaster support.
Also, Cyprus offers help, and just gets told no? Turkey is still sticking to it's crap during this???
Time for a upper management change.
FunkMiller
Member
Erdogan is fucking scum, as is his government. Sad that it takes the death of tens of thousands for the rest of the world to wake up to it.
See also: Vladimir Putin.
See also: Vladimir Putin.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Just check the videos recorded on Tik Tok how each video shows how whole apartment blocks just collapsing like a house of cards which I'm sure are housing thousands of people.
Then there are other buildings swaying in the quake and losing huge chunks of their structure or collapsing.
It's shocking to the core. Those people never had a chance to get out of those buildings in time.
Death toll now over 20 000 but that I'm sure is not close to the true devastation that took place.
Then there are other buildings swaying in the quake and losing huge chunks of their structure or collapsing.
It's shocking to the core. Those people never had a chance to get out of those buildings in time.
Death toll now over 20 000 but that I'm sure is not close to the true devastation that took place.
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Klosshufvud
Member
20,000 dead and NATO still protecting Erdogan's corrupt thug ass. I truly hope Ankara feels the bloody recoil of its actions soon.
RJMacready73
Banned
Hopefully this utter devastation and blazingly obvious corruption is the nail in that Erdocunts coffin, the Turks will be outraged going into the Elections having lost so much that if he steals the election which he will do, i can see it really kicking off over there, crazy as i was in Belek/Side over the Summer and find the Turks a sound bunch
nkarafo
Member
This whole situation makes me angry. I don't understand humanity sometimes. If i was to construct a building that's going to house people in it, my first priority should be to make it tough enough to stand a nuclear bomb or something. Not just barely meeting whatever regulations are in place but largely exceeding them just to be safe. Let alone not meeting them at all. That last part should be classed as a crime against humanity or at least attempted murder.
I hear things like "costs"... What the hell? The safety of any building shouldn't be a luxury. The thought of your own home being a potential death trap or not shouldn't be in anyone's mind. If you think about it, earthquakes are only dangerous and scary because it uses our own buildings to kill us. Why else would someone die because the ground shaked for 30 seconds?
Quakes killing so many people is a human invention, 100%. You can't blame chance or the earthquake itself because you know it's going to come. Maybe in 1 year, 10 years, 50 years, who knows. But it will come, it's a given, they are not even that rare. I don't care if it's such a "strong earthquake" that "buildings falling is natural" GTFO with that. We could make buildings that can stand the strongest quakes ever recorded in the planet's history and still be habitable after that if we wanted. But no, we rather cut costs and make brittle heavy buildings that may stand just barely long enough to escape, or maybe not, who knows, it's a complete crapshoot. (And cardboard houses in areas that get visited by heavy storms and hurricanes while we are at it, but that's another topic of human stupidity).
So yeah, another case of humans killing humans here, not much else to see.
I hear things like "costs"... What the hell? The safety of any building shouldn't be a luxury. The thought of your own home being a potential death trap or not shouldn't be in anyone's mind. If you think about it, earthquakes are only dangerous and scary because it uses our own buildings to kill us. Why else would someone die because the ground shaked for 30 seconds?
Quakes killing so many people is a human invention, 100%. You can't blame chance or the earthquake itself because you know it's going to come. Maybe in 1 year, 10 years, 50 years, who knows. But it will come, it's a given, they are not even that rare. I don't care if it's such a "strong earthquake" that "buildings falling is natural" GTFO with that. We could make buildings that can stand the strongest quakes ever recorded in the planet's history and still be habitable after that if we wanted. But no, we rather cut costs and make brittle heavy buildings that may stand just barely long enough to escape, or maybe not, who knows, it's a complete crapshoot. (And cardboard houses in areas that get visited by heavy storms and hurricanes while we are at it, but that's another topic of human stupidity).
So yeah, another case of humans killing humans here, not much else to see.
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