thanks for this
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10 was a weaker episode than the rest so far, but I loved the casino brothers
also the sex scene felt pretty dubious consent wise, jesus at peoples reactions to the mere mention of the R word in here
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Twin Peaks Season 3 OT |25 Years Later...It Is Happening Again
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10 was a weaker episode than the rest so far, but I loved the casino brothers
plagiarize
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We've done that dance a bunch of times. It's never been pretty... plus if ever ratings didn't really matter, it's here. This is an 18 part limited series with an ending. There is no planned fourth season at this time. It's 100% shot. It's all scheduled and going to air.
However badly it does now, it will find its audience in time. Just like FWWM did. So, you know. People try to spin them positive or negative to make points that just don't really matter.
Showtime may never recoup the money they put into this. Which would be very unfortunate. But they will always have my appreciate for fully funding it.
I care that Part 18 gives me closure. Living with Episode 29 and it's multiple cliff hangers for 25+ years was not fun.
Airola
Member
Off the top of my head, here's a personal list of pros and cons so far:
CONS
-The "Red Room" and whatever other rooms affiliated with the red curtains are way off from the feeling they had in the original series and in the movie. It no more feels like a semi-claustrophobic but mysteriously wonderful place to visit. It feels like a place to watch from the audience. It feels like an open stage. I take it the way it is though. It's better than nothing and the lodge stuff is always interesting no matter how it looks like.
-The "Lodge talk" has not been on par with the movie and the original series. For me, only the American Girl has sounded amazing.
-While I don't mind having the music numbers, most of the songs have not been good. I've only liked the Chromatics song and the Rebekah del Rio song. NIN was perhaps the least good of all of them.
-Especially in the first couple of episodes the tone of the series was nearly unbearably bad with the lack of music and all. However, if that really ends up being part of the plan to slowly drop in the mood we all know, then this ends up being a pro.
-The scenes with Bill Hastings have been awkward to watch because of his acting. And I really usually like Lillard.
-The scene where Ike kills the woman was tonally completely broken. That song was absolutely horrible. I don't care if it was about some contrast or whatever. It just was awful to watch while it constanty felt it could've been a great scene.
-I don't mind slow scenes in general but while I could watch Dougie watch the statue with that music on forever some of the scenes just feel way longer than it's good for them.
PROS
-Dougie is great. I think I wouldn't mind if Cooper would never come back.
-Wally was great. One of the funniest scenes in the series.
-Tammy is great. She's like an intelligent lizard/swan/deer person. Her movements remind me of slow moving smoke. I find it fascinating that she is at that position on her job. People seem to be unable to fit the Tamara in The Secret History to Bell's Tamara, but I find it really interesting that she is what she is.
-Jim Belushi and Robert Knepper are fantastic in their roles. I'm always interested in what they are up to.
-The Richard Horne scenes are always something that keeps me at the edge of my seat. The energy always ramps up when he appears.
-The scene with Tammy, Cole and Diane with the cigarette is one of the best scenes in the show. I think that whatever doubts people have had about Tammy should now be corrected. This scene wouldn't be what it is now without her way of being.
-I absolutely loved the namedrops of Annie and Harold. I'm so glad the theories about an alternate dimension where Annie has been erased (or the theories about a complete retcon) were shattered with that.
-The atom bomb scene was great.
-The Eyeless Woman scene was fantastic. In fact it was the first time I felt the season might be good after all.
-I'm definitely seeing a shift in mood and tone towards OG Twin Peaks type of stuff. And the editing and rhythm of the show seems to be getting better too.
For people who are disappointed with the series and worry that time is running out, just remember that there were eight episodes in the first season. We are still going to get that many episodes. Plenty of things can happen during those episodes.
Is it objectively art though
CONS
-The "Red Room" and whatever other rooms affiliated with the red curtains are way off from the feeling they had in the original series and in the movie. It no more feels like a semi-claustrophobic but mysteriously wonderful place to visit. It feels like a place to watch from the audience. It feels like an open stage. I take it the way it is though. It's better than nothing and the lodge stuff is always interesting no matter how it looks like.
-The "Lodge talk" has not been on par with the movie and the original series. For me, only the American Girl has sounded amazing.
-While I don't mind having the music numbers, most of the songs have not been good. I've only liked the Chromatics song and the Rebekah del Rio song. NIN was perhaps the least good of all of them.
-Especially in the first couple of episodes the tone of the series was nearly unbearably bad with the lack of music and all. However, if that really ends up being part of the plan to slowly drop in the mood we all know, then this ends up being a pro.
-The scenes with Bill Hastings have been awkward to watch because of his acting. And I really usually like Lillard.
-The scene where Ike kills the woman was tonally completely broken. That song was absolutely horrible. I don't care if it was about some contrast or whatever. It just was awful to watch while it constanty felt it could've been a great scene.
-I don't mind slow scenes in general but while I could watch Dougie watch the statue with that music on forever some of the scenes just feel way longer than it's good for them.
PROS
-Dougie is great. I think I wouldn't mind if Cooper would never come back.
-Wally was great. One of the funniest scenes in the series.
-Tammy is great. She's like an intelligent lizard/swan/deer person. Her movements remind me of slow moving smoke. I find it fascinating that she is at that position on her job. People seem to be unable to fit the Tamara in The Secret History to Bell's Tamara, but I find it really interesting that she is what she is.
-Jim Belushi and Robert Knepper are fantastic in their roles. I'm always interested in what they are up to.
-The Richard Horne scenes are always something that keeps me at the edge of my seat. The energy always ramps up when he appears.
-The scene with Tammy, Cole and Diane with the cigarette is one of the best scenes in the show. I think that whatever doubts people have had about Tammy should now be corrected. This scene wouldn't be what it is now without her way of being.
-I absolutely loved the namedrops of Annie and Harold. I'm so glad the theories about an alternate dimension where Annie has been erased (or the theories about a complete retcon) were shattered with that.
-The atom bomb scene was great.
-The Eyeless Woman scene was fantastic. In fact it was the first time I felt the season might be good after all.
-I'm definitely seeing a shift in mood and tone towards OG Twin Peaks type of stuff. And the editing and rhythm of the show seems to be getting better too.
For people who are disappointed with the series and worry that time is running out, just remember that there were eight episodes in the first season. We are still going to get that many episodes. Plenty of things can happen during those episodes.
Is it objectively art though
bunbun777
Member
Hey plagiarize I see we still disagree on the diner editing, hopefully one day we will know whether it was intentional or not.
And for the record I am not some fanboy the likes which keep getting touted out as some sort of lynch apologist, just that my bet is on him being aware of the continuity error, for what purpose or if it was originally intended that way, I don't know.
And for the record I am not some fanboy the likes which keep getting touted out as some sort of lynch apologist, just that my bet is on him being aware of the continuity error, for what purpose or if it was originally intended that way, I don't know.
Kadayi
Banned
At this juncture in the thread, people are either invested in the show as is or they're here to troll tbh. It's easy enough to spot the latter, they talk around the show rather than about the show. There are at least 6 people so far I've tuned out using the ignore function (3 within the last week) and I'm quite happy to never read anything they ever write on this forum ever again because they're simply not worth engaging with. There are plenty of decent posters here who want to talk plot, speculate on what things mean or how things tie into the overall and are sincere in their criticisms/praise. Don't let the trolls drag you down. They live for attention, learn to withhold.
As regards the show, it seems to me that a lot of people still don't understand that when Lynch described it as an 18-hour movie he wasn't joking. That's a different beast in terms of how you have to view it versus say an 18 part TV series, made in a conventional manner. The payoffs in a standard TV series are a bit more cyclical often with an episode, or straddling a couple, with the odd occasional over arching payoffs season or series payoffs (Game of Thrones is a great example of this approach), but that's not the road Lynch & Frost are taking us down. Just as the original TV show subverted the conventions of 90s network drama, so this time, they're subverting those expectations when it comes to Cable shows and eschewing the pacing response that people expect from that formula.
I hate to break it to you but this post from you is exactly why people don't like this topic anymore and feel offended. There was absolutely no cause and effect to mention High School Art and Algebra. Art like everything else is fucking subjective..There could be a dozen reasons why people got into this show. FYI I know about art a lot and done quizes so much big painters are basically ones who painted paintings that could have been done by little children, and they could have been professional painters. Your post is uncalled for and certainly not justified only because people don't like the music in the end.
I even found a quiz I was talking about:
http://www.businessinsider.com/quiz-famous-art-or-childs-project-2013-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T
Yeah it's bad right. We need those shovels asap.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I don't hide that I really like the new season, I've liked every episode even sometimes for very different reasons. However I both loved the original series and loved Lynch's other works, and the new season sometimes tips more to being like the original series or tips more like being similar to some of Lynch's other works.
This topics recent turns reminds me of the classical discussion of 'love and hate' in art. Lynch has evoked this a few times in his career, but it's the act that something can be created that may be beloved by some, loathed by others. Sometimes people get enamored with something for what it does, and someone else almost gets offended by what their witnessing. And mixing these opinions into the same bowl, someone enamored and someone offended, ignites sparks since both are really impacted by the work in opposite directions.
But the argument most will make is that if a work can inspire such reaction out of the audience, then it's probably successful. So much manages to get zero reaction out of people, to make something which both captures a lot of love and a lot of hate means it is successfully making you feel something, it's getting a reaction out of you and sticking with you more to a point you want to respond to it.
I think the discussion gets muddled because really neither of the sides are really going to change their minds on how they feel, yet the other desperately wants to express their feelings and try to reason with the other side. There can be reason, but I very much doubt anyone will convince another to feel differently because the show does a good job at making the audience feel something, and that differs from person to person watching.
I am very happy with what the show is, but as has been said in this topic by multiple people since the premiere there's no way this is going to be a work that's an easy recommendation for everyone since by nature it isn't trying to appeal to all audiences, but the appeal it has can and has been being found by certain audiences. It's hardly the safe route the show could've taken, and the direction some here would infinitely prefer to the direction the current series has taken, but I think in taking its own path it manages to certainly ignite something within viewers at the very least.
This topics recent turns reminds me of the classical discussion of 'love and hate' in art. Lynch has evoked this a few times in his career, but it's the act that something can be created that may be beloved by some, loathed by others. Sometimes people get enamored with something for what it does, and someone else almost gets offended by what their witnessing. And mixing these opinions into the same bowl, someone enamored and someone offended, ignites sparks since both are really impacted by the work in opposite directions.
But the argument most will make is that if a work can inspire such reaction out of the audience, then it's probably successful. So much manages to get zero reaction out of people, to make something which both captures a lot of love and a lot of hate means it is successfully making you feel something, it's getting a reaction out of you and sticking with you more to a point you want to respond to it.
I think the discussion gets muddled because really neither of the sides are really going to change their minds on how they feel, yet the other desperately wants to express their feelings and try to reason with the other side. There can be reason, but I very much doubt anyone will convince another to feel differently because the show does a good job at making the audience feel something, and that differs from person to person watching.
I am very happy with what the show is, but as has been said in this topic by multiple people since the premiere there's no way this is going to be a work that's an easy recommendation for everyone since by nature it isn't trying to appeal to all audiences, but the appeal it has can and has been being found by certain audiences. It's hardly the safe route the show could've taken, and the direction some here would infinitely prefer to the direction the current series has taken, but I think in taking its own path it manages to certainly ignite something within viewers at the very least.
Agreed. It kind of reminds me of The Wire in that regard. Even among it's peers, The Wire was unique in that it almost never had single episode story arcs. You really needed the full season (and sometimes multiple seasons) for things to resolve themselves. This season feels a lot like that.
That's really interesting. But why 10 days?
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
This thread is like a Nintendo thread in gaming
Its a shame really. Some openminded people like those with Kyle avatars arent posting here anymore. Ofcourse internet topics arent soley about fun but there was understanding and enlightenment here. To be even more Frank I think the people defending the show are being less openminded then they used to be.
giancarlo123x
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Car for help
Kadayi
Banned
True, it's not without precedent, but it's very deliberate in terms of how it's done and I think people struggle with accepting that. The vocal frustration with Dougie is a clear by-product of this. With people convinced that Coop will never return and that Lynch & Frost are trolling everyone. Which is let's face it a patently absurd idea. If Coop had simply wandered out of the Black Lodge and been straight back to drinking coffee and eating cherry pie, it would have totally undermined the actual abject horror of his 25-year incarceration in purgatory. We're watching an individual who's been locked away in their own mind to the point that much of what he remembers of the past likely seems like a distant dream, suddenly finding himself rudely thrust back into it, and he's trying to make sense of this maelstrom of sensory input and find familiar anchors to latch onto. Once he's eventually reconciled with Gordon I think we'll likely see more of the Cooper we remember emerge, but I think there's no way that his imprisonment in the black Lodge and the impact of all of that loss of time will have had on him won't have a profound effect upon his character going forward.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I'm worried since I've sensed myself being less open-minded, but trying to fight back against it. I think it's partially the hostility coming from both sides at times makes me want to clam up and buckle down, but the first step to open-mindedness is being aware of the ways you're getting closed-minded to something and be aware that it's happening.
Intheflorsh
Banned
uncelestial
Member
I dunno... Lynch could very well and may very well never allow Cooper to star in the show "as himself" -- certainly not in any kind of way that feels like he's going on adventures again. The central plot of the show is that he needs to be saved by his friends in the FBI and TPPD before someone kills him while his body is in a helpless state, and the only way to do that is kill Mr C. (or send him back to the Lodge).
My impression is that Cooper is not there; he's not there, but shellshocked, "trying to make sense" of things. He is not allowed to inhabit a body until Mr. C has left the corporeal plane. He is stuck in a state of limbo. What's shambling around as "Dougie Jones" is an empty physical shell.
"You need the whole season to appreciate it" is a poor excuse, really. I personally am okay with what we're getting and willing to see it all through, but I would be lying if I said it hasn't been disappointing on multiple levels. Starting with the old cast's complete disconnection to the plot. It's like they filmed some "sketches" with the old cast and are playing them as intermissions to break away from the central plot. The check-ins on Twin Peaks could really be happening at any point; Chad intercepting the mail and Ben Horne getting the old key in the mail are the only actual "touching" of Twin Peaks by the plot of the show.
The old characters have to be interacting with snail mail to even be involved with the plot of the show, and Cooper is here in baby form. Of course people are getting tired of it. It's been 10 hours of that, and of tedious exposition, bad acting, ephemeral subplots and, for some reason, full-length musical performances. The season should do more to stand on its own; pulling out a decent ending didn't make Season 2 brilliant and it's not going to fix Season 3 either.
It's really a shame... I was excited. But I don't feel like Lynch made a commitment within himself to make a show that actually has the qualities of Twin Peaks: A web of interesting relationships amongst people, a central mystery/lore being uncovered, a protagonist, episodes with dramatic arcs in them, incidental music, an atmospheric location that suggests the hiding of mystery, cliffhangers between episodes, sexual tension between people, recognizable character quirks that come up and reveal the individuality of the protagonist and the townsfolk -- or even just a sense that the plot is actually coming together due to an intentional, capable protagonist who is on the case of the mystery, rather than an increasingly vain hope that a deus ex machina will lead to a chain reaction that will resolve everything.
Say what you will about writing tight episodes of a show, but that's kind of the job. "I'm going to just jam for 18 hours; it will never be shown in the form I am creating it -- as a marathon-long 18 hour movie -- but whatever. Structure. Feh."
Still, gonna watch every minute of every episode. Probably twice. Here's hoping they get it together soon because this show has basically stumbling around the house in its pajamas for ten hours.
Common issue sadly. Seems over time threads inevitably shift away from interesting discussion - for example in this case actual discussion on episode content and extrapolation of that - to simple back/forth arguments from detractors of whatever it is and defenders.
This encourages others to how out due to the noise it generates. I dislike trying to following interesting ideas when they're swamped under the arguing get myself.
Early on I came in the thread more and there was a lot more discussion it felt like: now mostly it feels like there's back and forth whining when you pop in to the thread.
giancarlo123x
Banned
Looks like two normal great friends talking.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Just read the theory, and it's well reasoned and makes sense. If it holds true, then it would happen in the next episode or so, since it's when Hawk and company are going to the Jack Rabbit spot on October 1st.
Jesus, do not interrupt Lynch when he's doing his TM.
RepairmanJack
Member
Having just watched the episode and hearing podcasts I'm actually surprised to see a lot of the fandom not really liking this episode. It was probably my favorite episode. It was a lot darker than most the stuff so far, which wasn't really expected, but the more surface level look at this series and the mystery so far felt refreshing and great to me. I really liked this episode.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
This is also very true. Alright, I've decided for myself when the next episode airs I'm going to try to push for discussion rather than bickering. I didn't contribute to that last episode myself.
I think Lynch does assholes well, this was the part for me that established Richard is someone to be afraid of, he had been an asshole in previous episodes and there was already some loathing from me, but this episode established he can be scary for me, the actor did a good job and the character spins from being a regular asshole punk to being a real monster in every deplorable way he can. It's over the top, but Richard's try-hard ways makes it somewhat more believable.
Also I was reminded of something, I'll mention it next post.
Dynamite Shikoku
Congratulations, you really deserve it!
I really want to see more of Red. I thought his character was the most interesting so far, in that he was totally weird.
Gozer the Gozerian
Member
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Kadayi
Banned
There's enough information already laid out in the show that points to a resolution of sorts coming up fairly shortly within the show's narrative. It's not going to take 8 episodes to get to the meeting at jackrabbits which is due in a couple of days IIRC. There's too much going on for the show to try and slow the passing of time down to that degree.
Coopers not inhabiting any body. He didn't take over Dougie, Dougie disappeared and Cooper manifested through the power socket. The only reason people refer to him as Dougie is because he's incapable of telling them otherwise at this juncture.
I think it's perfectly valid. Certainly, the show is currently being doled out to us on a weekly basis now, but once it is released on DVD/Blu-ray do you think people are going to consume it that way? Not at all. They'll binge. The main pity with the series is that it wasn't produced by Netflix because they've given the whole thing to us in one hit. In fact, if anything Lynch is kind of pointing the way for binge shows moving forward. Orange is the New Black sort of broke out this season with its narrative approach in that regard tbh.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
SO, THEORY TIME;
At the start of the series, the Giant (or whoever ????? is) says three things to remember, the number 430, Richard & Linda, and two birds with one stone.
Now of these elements to remember, only Richard has presented himself so far (though, the Trinity Nuclear Test was performed at 5:30 AM in New Mexico, so that would be 4:30 AM in Twin Peaks, but I kind of think that being what 430 means here to be a stretch).
But anyways, with it looking increasingly likely that Richard is Audrey's child, and there's a large chance that Mr. C is the father, that's probably part of the reason the Giant said to remember them. Then the implication is that Linda might be another child by Mr. C if this is true. At this point Linda was only mentioned in passing in Part 6 as one of the residents of New Fat Trout Trailer Park mentions he has got to get the mail for Linda at the P.O. Box, mentioning she's doing a lot better and the government finally gave her an electric wheelchair, to which Carl responds, "Fucking war.".
We can't really know if this holds any water until we know for certain that Mr. C is Richard's father and we know more about Linda, but apparently Richard, Linda, and the number 430 all have something to do with each other, and this something involving all of these will somehow be relevant to the phrase two birds with one stone. With how the season is going, I almost think Richard and Linda will lead to something involving the number 430 which might be what kills Mr. C and returns Cooper back to normal, as Richard is about to skip town and stole a lot of money to do so (is he perhaps going to Nevada?), Cooper was told to remember Richard (and Linda), and the two birds with one stone phrase I'm increasingly thinking may have something to do with both taking Mr. C out and returning Cooper to himself, as they're the closest thing to 'two birds' that are directly related like that I think.
Just some thoughts.
At the start of the series, the Giant (or whoever ????? is) says three things to remember, the number 430, Richard & Linda, and two birds with one stone.
Now of these elements to remember, only Richard has presented himself so far (though, the Trinity Nuclear Test was performed at 5:30 AM in New Mexico, so that would be 4:30 AM in Twin Peaks, but I kind of think that being what 430 means here to be a stretch).
But anyways, with it looking increasingly likely that Richard is Audrey's child, and there's a large chance that Mr. C is the father, that's probably part of the reason the Giant said to remember them. Then the implication is that Linda might be another child by Mr. C if this is true. At this point Linda was only mentioned in passing in Part 6 as one of the residents of New Fat Trout Trailer Park mentions he has got to get the mail for Linda at the P.O. Box, mentioning she's doing a lot better and the government finally gave her an electric wheelchair, to which Carl responds, "Fucking war.".
We can't really know if this holds any water until we know for certain that Mr. C is Richard's father and we know more about Linda, but apparently Richard, Linda, and the number 430 all have something to do with each other, and this something involving all of these will somehow be relevant to the phrase two birds with one stone. With how the season is going, I almost think Richard and Linda will lead to something involving the number 430 which might be what kills Mr. C and returns Cooper back to normal, as Richard is about to skip town and stole a lot of money to do so (is he perhaps going to Nevada?), Cooper was told to remember Richard (and Linda), and the two birds with one stone phrase I'm increasingly thinking may have something to do with both taking Mr. C out and returning Cooper to himself, as they're the closest thing to 'two birds' that are directly related like that I think.
Just some thoughts.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Whatever they gotta do, better do it fast. Need atleast 7 episodes of real Cooper.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
I mean, it's possible. If each character has a doppelganger on the other side then Richard would too, we even see that entities like the Arm have doppelgangers so I don't see why Richard wouldn't have one. I also sort of take it from the series that the doppelgangers are not completely separate from who their owners are (Hawk mentions shadow self and all that in the original series), but honestly not all of the doppelgangers in the lodge seem evil. Laura's doppelganger seems scary sometimes, but not really malicious or evil. Leland's doppelganger seems more tuned in to his fatherly side. Cooper's doppelganger is straight-up evil but it might have to do with the fact that Cooper chooses to be an upstanding fellow despite probably having formed a pretty big dark side with various events and things he's had to deal with over the years.
So if that sort of logic does actually apply, then since Richard partakes in so much evil in the real world, he might have a decent doppelganger on the otherside. Or his doppelganger on the other side is a fucking monster, who's to say/ I kind of doubt we'll ever see Richard's doppelganger, but we might and Richard probably will play some importance somewhere in the future.
I'd love to see Cooper, but I'm setting my expectations to Cooper's not coming back until the two part series finale until proven otherwise.
RepairmanJack
Member
Did I hear it wrong or did Albert say it was Tammy that received the text from Doppelcoop? It didn't hit me until after Tammy came to the door. Dunno if I heard it wrong or if some Doppelcoop technology is involved in confusing it all.
31GhostsIV
Banned
I'm not expecting any redemption for Richard, and I'm expecting him to subvert the concept that evil = connection to the Black Lodge. We're getting a lot of clues about him - his full name appeared in the credits immediately after his first scene (compared to say, Shelly, an established character yet we still don't know her current marital status and partner - assuming there is one), Doc Hayward mentioned the Mr C hospital visit, and of course we now know Ben and Sylvia are his grandparents.
I have a hunch - based on little more than it being just that - that the audience is being given space to digest the possibility Richard is the product of this very awful situation that simultaneously defiles both one of the show's most popular original characters and the friendship she had with Cooper. But I also think there's going to be another twist in this story. What that is, I have no idea. But his heritage is currently too obvious to have not pulled the trigger on the reveal.
Random idea that popped into my head mentioning Shelly - when Red made the apparently flirty shooting gesture at her at the Roadhouse, he was genuinely saying he's going to shoot her because Bobby is in charge of monitoring the drugs coming in and out of TP.
It was Diane texting with the doppelganger.
Enoch Root
Member
What if Red is Richard's doppelganger? I know they don't look alike, but when Red did the trick with the dime, he said "this is me, & this is you" or something like that and showed the heads and tails of the coin.
RepairmanJack
Member
Well I know it was Diane, that's what I'm saying. It seemed like they were talking about Tammy doing the texting which makes me think either I misheard or there was more involved.
31GhostsIV
Banned
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
I just had a large vehicle reversing in the street and it was playing one of those 'danger, vehicle reversing' messages but all I could hear was "Hi Johnny, how are you today?".
I just looked this theory up, it's brilliant. Someone also pointed out that Coop goes backwards ten frames when in the NY box.
Thread here for those interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/twinpeaks/..._jack_rabbits_palace_253_and_the_purple_room/
It's been asked before but bears repeating: "Is it future? Or is it past?"
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
Hello Twin Peaks OT, how are you today?
More accurate.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Fuck, I'm starting to believe it too. The fact that the fucking Box goes back 10 frames in Part 2, if this theory is true, is a fucking brilliant hint I don't think anyone would pick up on beforehand yet makes a lot of sense afterwards.
Net_Wrecker
Member
That theory would be kind of amazing, but I always hesitate to buy into any wacky fan theories. When the pieces fit so perfectly but the show decides to do something else, it can create a nice little empty space in your mind where disappointment thrives. Then you just stew in your weird self created funk for a while knowing that the whole thing could've been avoided if you didn't believe so hard.
Still, the pieces do fit.
Still, the pieces do fit.
Holy shit, that theory is brilliant.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Currently having some racing thoughts over all the series has gone over so far. I don't know if this is relevant or not, but you know fucking what?
This could be interpreted as a rabbit, and the place they need to go is Jack Rabbit's Palace, since Mr. C asks Daria when he's going to kill her if she has Ray's coordinates or recognizes this symbol, and through the whole season the thing he has been wanting the most is some coordinates, and I'm betting the coordinates he wants is for where Jack Rabbit's Palace is represented by the symbol since the same symbol is on Major Brigg's note for the location...
"Is it about the bunny? No, it's not about the bunny."
But it turns out there's a lot about bunnies that may actually be relevant.
This could be interpreted as a rabbit, and the place they need to go is Jack Rabbit's Palace, since Mr. C asks Daria when he's going to kill her if she has Ray's coordinates or recognizes this symbol, and through the whole season the thing he has been wanting the most is some coordinates, and I'm betting the coordinates he wants is for where Jack Rabbit's Palace is represented by the symbol since the same symbol is on Major Brigg's note for the location...
"Is it about the bunny? No, it's not about the bunny."
But it turns out there's a lot about bunnies that may actually be relevant.
Net_Wrecker
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That theory starts to fall apart when the dude starts tripping over himself about "Maybe Mr.C's stuff happen after. Oh wait, Hastings put the 29th...uhhh" And Andy's part taking place out of order with everything else is just weird.
Be cool if it was right though. Even before reading this, I assumed whatever Bobby, Hawk, and Truman do would help bring Cooper back anyway.
Be cool if it was right though. Even before reading this, I assumed whatever Bobby, Hawk, and Truman do would help bring Cooper back anyway.
Brian_FETO
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YessssssCurrently having some racing thoughts over all the series has gone over so far. I don't know if this is relevant or not, but you know fucking what?
This could be interpreted as a rabbit, and the place they need to go is Jack Rabbit's Palace, since Mr. C asks Daria when he's going to kill her if she has Ray's coordinates or recognizes this symbol, and through the whole season the thing he has been wanting the most is some coordinates, and I'm betting the coordinates he wants is for where Jack Rabbit's Palace is represented by the symbol since the same symbol is on Major Brigg's note for the location...
"Is it about the bunny? No, it's not about the bunny."
But it turns out there's a lot about bunnies that may actually be relevant.
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