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U.S. plans raids to deport hundreds of undocumented families

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Polari

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The Department of Homeland Security has begun preparing for a series of raids that would target for deportation hundreds of families who have flocked to the United States since the start of last year, according to people familiar with the operation.

The nationwide campaign, to be carried out by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents as soon as early January, would be the first large-scale effort to deport families who have fled violence in Central America, those familiar with the plan said. More than 100,000 families with both adults and children have made the journey across the southwest border since last year, though this migration has largely been overshadowed by a related surge of unaccompanied minors.

The ICE operation would target only adults and children who have already been ordered removed from the United States by an immigration judge, according to officials familiar with the undertaking, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because planning is ongoing and the operation has not been given final approval by DHS. The adults and children would be detained wherever they can be found and immediately deported. The number targeted is expected to be in the hundreds and possibly greater.

The proposed deportations have been controversial inside the Obama administration, which has been discussing them for several months. DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson has been pushing for the moves, according to those with knowledge of the debate, in part because of a new spike in the number of illegal immigrants in recent months. Experts say that the violence that was a key factor in driving people to flee Central America last year has surged again, with the homicide rate in El Salvador reaching its highest level in a generation. A drought in the region has also prompted departures.

The pressure for deportations has also mounted because of a recent court decision that ordered DHS to begin releasing families housed in detention centers.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...4fc954-a9bd-11e5-8058-480b572b4aae_story.html

More at the link.

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pa22word

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This isn't really that surprising. I thought Obama made it pretty clear with his executive order that he was going to begin clamping down on anyone who missed his five year window.
 
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Prologue

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I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
 
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Kite

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The ICE operation would target only adults and children who have already been ordered removed from the United States by an immigration judge
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I see no issue with this.
 
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Volimar

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It's a bit distressing news since we don't know why they were ordered to leave, but assuming it's for criminal activities or the like I'm okay with it.

yanipheonu said:
Laws can be unjust.

Eichmann tried to argue he just made the trains run well.
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Holy shit that was fast.
 
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Razgriz-Specter

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Prologue said:
I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
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Deport them where?
LOL
 
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BPoole

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Prologue said:
I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
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Where could we possibly send gang members that are US citizens? No other country would want to be our dumping ground for career criminals.
 
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Earthstrike

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Prologue said:
I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
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Deporting gang members where?
 
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freeofgreed

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Prologue said:
I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
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Fight stupid with more stupid. Smart idea.
 
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Lkr

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i thought obama was putting a stop to this shit? smh, deporting them isn't gonna solve anything
 
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tearsintherain

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Lkr said:
i thought obama was putting a stop to this shit? smh, deporting them isn't gonna solve anything
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Its to discourage people currently in South America from attempting to illegally cross the borders or send their kids by themselves, as the article in OP points out.
 
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la flama blanca

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tearsintherain said:
Its to discourage people currently in South America from attempting to illegally cross the borders or send their kids by themselves, as the article in OP points out.
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Despite my situation, I actually think it's the right thing to do. It was a real disaster and read so many horror stories about young girls being raped coming over.

Gonzalez said:
Uh oh... You might be getting a knock at your door soon.
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I have very little fear. Being completely Americanized and white as hell has made it a non-issue for me really.
 
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la flama blanca said:
Despite my situation, I actually think it's the right thing to do. It was a real disaster and read so many horror stories about young girls being raped coming over.



I have very little fear. Being completely Americanized and white as hell has made it a non-issue for me really.
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Yup until they find our you're not suppose to be here your race or Americanization means nothing
 
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la flama blanca

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Christopher said:
Yup until they find our you're not suppose to be here your race or Americanization means nothing
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They found out, believe me, they found out. It did matter, trust me.

Keri said:
I don't think looking and sounding American is enough to protect you from ICE. The problem is your lack of a social security number or documentation. You said you were successful in your career, so obviously your current employer isn't asking questions, but if your employer is doing this regularly, eventually ICE could catch wind and raid.
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I'm technically here illegally, but I do have work authorization under the dream act for a set period of time. It's pretty much just a "don't deport me card". I got it less than a year ago so thankfully I'm not as obstructed in my job search. I do have a valid SS number and have had one for some time because of some program I tried to apply for many years ago but was unfortunately denied. I suspect it's also because I live in NY, obviously living in a place like Arizona, I'd be subject to more scrutiny. I actually should be more afraid considering I don't even speak Spanish so being deported would legit be horrible as hell, but I'm stubborn.
 
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Keri

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la flama blanca said:
I have very little fear. Being completely Americanized and white as hell has made it a non-issue for me really.
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I don't think looking and sounding American is enough to protect you from ICE. The problem is your lack of a social security number or documentation. You said you were successful in your career, so obviously your current employer isn't asking questions, but if your employer is doing this regularly, eventually ICE could catch wind and raid.
 
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jerry1594

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As difficult as it may seem, I don't think the US can set the precedent that the borders are meaningless. This country should take steps to help stop what is causing the flow of immigrants instead, eg stop the war on drugs and the flow of firearms south of the border.
 
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la flama blanca

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Pizarro said:
As difficult as it may seem, I don't think the US can set the precedent that the borders are meaningless. This country should take steps to help stop what is causing the flow of immigrants instead, eg stop the war on drugs and the flow of firearms south of the border.
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I suspect there's some corruption in place that really makes it way more difficult. The cartels have a lot of money, I wouldn't be surprised if both sides of the fence were corrupted in different areas. I agree that the precedent must be set and Obama has really done more than any other President in recent history to be the toughest on illegal immigration. If conservatives really knew the facts, they'd have to concede that he did that job well.
 
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Keri

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la flama blanca said:
I'm technically here illegally, but I do have work authorization under the dream act for a set period of time. It's pretty much just a "don't deport me card". I got it less than a year ago so thankfully I'm not as obstructed in my job search. I do have a valid SS number and have had one for some time because of some program I tried to apply for many years ago but was unfortunately denied. I suspect it's also because I live in NY, obviously living in a place like Arizona, I'd be subject to more scrutiny. I actually should be more afraid considering I don't even speak Spanish so being deported would legit be horrible as hell, but I'm stubborn.
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Thanks for explaining, I was curious, but didn't want to pry. While your situation may be technically illegal, it sounds...well, pretty legal. You have authorization to work here, so it sounds like you definitely don't have anything to worry about now. I don't know much about these things, but I would think (hope) that the longer you are here and are documented, the greater your odds of successfully applying for permanent residency. I really hope it works out for you and you can get a more permanent greencard (or citizenship) in the future!
 
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la flama blanca

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Keri said:
Thanks for explaining, I was curious, but didn't want to pry. While your situation may be technically illegal, it sounds...well, pretty legal. You have authorization to work here, so it sounds like you definitely don't have anything to worry about now. I don't know much about these things, but I would think (hope) that the longer you are here and are documented, the greater your odds of successfully applying for permanent residency. I really hope it works out for you and you can get a more permanent greencard (or citizenship) in the future!
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Thank you very much, I hope so too!
 
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kame-sennin

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- Conquer a continent.
- Steal half a country and redraw border.
- Ethnically cleanse "frontier".
- Install dictators in Central and South America.
- Steal resources.
- Destabilize region.
- Crush popular resistance.
- Create black market drug trade.

- Deport people fleeing from resulting chaos because "laws have to be enforced" and "borders matter".
 
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Karsticles

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Prologue said:
I watched the movie "Spare Parts" the other day. Knowing theres families here that just want to contribute to society, rubs me the wrong way. Especially when theres american citizens that are repeatedly sent to jail over offenses. Why aren't we deporting gang members? I don't care that they're citizens. I just think our priorities are mixed up.
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Has it occurred to you that allowing the state to deport anyone it deems to be a criminal could be dangerous?
 
diablos991

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I don't see the problem. Aren't these people here illegally?
Have them follow the process we have in place.

Fix the process of it's broken but that doesn't change the fact these people are breaking the law currently.
 
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