The Chairman
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Ubisoft is really in trouble when even the people from the country the game is based on are not happy about it
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Ubisoft Japan trailer for AC:Shadows only has 253 likes against 7000 dislikes after 3 days
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Ubisoft is really in trouble when even the people from the country the game is based on are not happy about it
Ironman_Bad
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They in their feelings about bro giving that Japanese girl the business in ways she's never had 
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The Chairman
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They in their feelings about bro giving that Japanese girl the business in ways she's never had
Dude stop watching too much porn it will rot your brain
butterunicorns
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The game is a complete mockery of Japanese culture. Of course they don't want this retarded shit.
MayauMiao
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Ubisoft is really in trouble when even the people from the country the game is based on are not happy about it
Thanks for telling us this. I'm adding to the down votes.
TrueLegend
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In how many ways can you be racist.They in their feelings about bro giving that Japanese girl the business in ways she's never had
Ironman_Bad
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Who am I racist against exactly
unlurkified
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Their reaction is of course justified, but Japan is largely an irrelevant market at this point for many games. Yeah they’ll probably lose out on 10’s of 1000’s of sales, but I don’t think that’s a big deal for them.
Darkness_Arises
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This is the truth. I highly doubt that the AC series was doing gangbusters in Japan.
Cyberpunkd
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You guys need to dial it down a bit. You either dismiss the Internet hive mind as woke that has no bearing in reality or you acknowledge the online reception as illustrative of the real world. You can’t have it both ways.
Heimdall_Xtreme
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7001 dislikes with me.
NuclearDiarrhea
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The Japanese are obviously pissed off that the game isn't woke enough.
Majima Everywhere System
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I actually am in the mood for AC after all this time, but of course this years version makes no sense. I would think about UBIsoft meetings the entire time I play it unfortunately.
They should save this game by having a Black Flag style send up of Ubisoft corporate in the present. If they were utterly ruthless about how much they tried to be so inclusive that they offended everyone…then I would be in!
They should save this game by having a Black Flag style send up of Ubisoft corporate in the present. If they were utterly ruthless about how much they tried to be so inclusive that they offended everyone…then I would be in!
ricardo_sousa11
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At this rate, UBI wont be solvent long enough to release the game
MostlyPeaceful
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The most organic, natural, and totally-not-forced-at-all protagonist choice for the setting.
Ubisoft surely didn’t have any sort of agenda with this.
The Japanese clearly seem to agree with me here and are showing their approval of Ubisoft’s fantastic depiction of their captivating history.
Ubisoft surely didn’t have any sort of agenda with this.
The Japanese clearly seem to agree with me here and are showing their approval of Ubisoft’s fantastic depiction of their captivating history.
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atyourservice
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I think it is one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting though
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_Idea_of_Evil_
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Hot5pur
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Just read about this "controversy" and Japanese gamers seem to be confused about this being a fictional work loosely based on historical characters.
This is more tribalism/nationalism and needing to be a special class. I can understand if Ubisoft was depicting the Japanese as some murdering Nazis or something, but this is just a bunch of complaining about to it some historical inaccuracies in a work that is clearly meant to be fictional. Some people just need to grow thicker skin.
This is more tribalism/nationalism and needing to be a special class. I can understand if Ubisoft was depicting the Japanese as some murdering Nazis or something, but this is just a bunch of complaining about to it some historical inaccuracies in a work that is clearly meant to be fictional. Some people just need to grow thicker skin.
MostlyPeaceful
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Interesting why? Because he's simply an African "samurai" in feudal Japan? Is that the only reason its such an interesting choice?
I suspect that's very likely the same sort of "interesting" that compelled Ubisoft to go with him in the first place.
Please elaborate on what - other than the race of the protagonist within in the context of the setting - makes him "one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting"?
Remember - its not the fact that someone made a piece of entertainment about a black samurai that makes it woke.
What makes it woke is that these decisions are not coming from genuine, organic ideas anymore - but rather deliberate, preconceived agendas with a ton of corporate support behind them, and we have a slew of other examples across entertainment over the last 10 years that prove this to be true.
If there was a game made about a black samurai in 2004, nobody would bat an eye, because the machine pushing all of this stuff didn't exist in 2004 - and the idea for the game likely would have organically come from some small group of developer dudes trying something "different and cool" - but in 2024, we know that's not what's actually going on.
Nobody said anything about Halle Berry being cast as Catwoman in 2004 - Halle Berry was simply hot as fuck and fit the role well. "Woke" didn't exist. "Wokeness" was not even a thing that ever crossed anyone's mind - because why would it?
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Ridicululzz
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I don’t think this game was going to do that well in Japan anyways; they don’t really care for Assassin’s Creed
I don't think they've ever done this level of "loosely based on historical characters" whilst simultaneously defending it as "actually it's really historically correct based on......".
You can't do both.
Kotaro
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atyourservice
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I'm not sure what the insinuation is here.
Yes. That's why it's interesting. It's a very 'oh, that's odd. An african "samurai" in japan. Haven't seen that before' hook.
I don't know much about the background but it makes me think the story will be told from an outsider's perspective. How did he end up there, what will that aspect of his character change in the narrative, and so on. If you were a writer given that pitch, I'm pretty sure you would find it an interesting challenge.
Though it's Ubisoft so I'm not expecting it to be used to any notable extent
Big Baller
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DrMano
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News Flash: Most of the world's populations are homogenous and don't appreciate it when
DavidGzz
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News Flash: this wasn't a big deal when they chose William in Nioh and he was the only option. At least in Assassin's Creed you have another native protagonist.
You’re saying this like you have the Minutes of Meeting from within Ubisoft when they decided to make one of the two protagonists Black as part of a ‘preconceived agenda’.
I wonder what that agenda is supposed to be pushing here in this case? What’s the ulterior motive here?
More like social media definitely wasn’t this prevalent back in 2004, and we didn’t have this army of grifters and YouTubers screeching to you to be outraged 24/7.
But they have willing ears in the gullible. Like those who are so convinced that all the votes in that YouTube video come from Japanese gamers
Apparently the female, Japanese protagonist doesn’t count for representation because reasons.
Even though we’ve seen from past AC games like Odyssey that Ubisoft has a history of doing great justice to their female protagonists.
DrMano
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Yes, for many people she absolutely doesn't count.
If anything, having her there as Yasuke's sidekick is even a more barbed insult.
Not to mention neither her presented appearance nor her behavior is anywhere near of the women of that time period.
You mean like Tarzan?
I’m not convinced the bulk of gaming is comprised of historical scholars.
Why doesn’t she count anyway? She’s Japanese. We certainly had no arguments about female co-protagonists being a second thought when it came to AC Odyssey.
Toots
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I suppose you are playing dumb but anyway, the issue isn't historical accuracy it's black representation.
The real problem being of course extreme bad faith all across the board.
AC always had historical figures, events and correct architecture from the times and places they depicted. The overarching storyline also had crazy scifi elements and historical tie-ins.
It's only a short while ago that people started to play dumb omitting one side of the coin or the other, to further their agenda, which is the same for both sides : censoring what they don't like from the other side.
You're playing dumb, they are playing dumb, and everyone else is watching a downxican standoff wondering how two sides battling each other can be losing at the same time.
MostlyPeaceful
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So…just to be clear
You’re saying that “wokeness” isn’t real, and that it’s a false theory with zero basis made-up out of thin air by…screeching social media grifters? And only “gullible” idiots believe in it?
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Tarzan is an AC game?
Ironman_Bad
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genesisblock
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Yes, let's paint an entire culture with a broad paint brush. It's not like Ubisoft is known for making excellent titles like Star Wars: Outlaws and the AAAA game Skull and Bones. But yes, they are gonna get it so right with AC: Shadows. Especially with Sweet Baby at the helm. But hey, this may be their breakthrough title after their failure that is Dustborn/Concord, RIGHT?
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thief183
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Have you realised that is the first time that we HAVE to play as a "real" historical person?
Also if I'm not wrong all the yasuke story was fabricated and Ubisoft fell for it with all their team.
Then again interesting character why? Cause it is almost completely invented? Why not make a new person like the old game and write a good story with it?
KungFucius
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The game is set in Feudal Japan, that culture is so separated from modern Japan it would be silly for people to look at that as foreigners shitting on their past. This kind of thinking is the same as those who cry cultural appropriation when someone sees people copy bits of culture like we have done for all of our existence.
Japan has very few black people living there. Its over 97% Japanese natives. Everyone who visits must feel like I did when I visited rural China.
Schmendrick
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One of the first trailers of this game was a black guy in a samurai costume in feudal japan slashing away with gen z mumble rap/hiphop in the background.....
Did anyone really expect Ubisoft to get finer historical details right?
This whole "outrage" nonsense is just the usual influencer idiots trying to dramatize everything to generate clicks. And Ubisoft`s PR being their incompetent selves jumped on the chance to make people talk about this game by doubling down on the "we waz samurais n shiiet" stuff....
Did anyone really expect Ubisoft to get finer historical details right?
This whole "outrage" nonsense is just the usual influencer idiots trying to dramatize everything to generate clicks. And Ubisoft`s PR being their incompetent selves jumped on the chance to make people talk about this game by doubling down on the "we waz samurais n shiiet" stuff....
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