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[Bojji]

Yeah it looks very similar to Valhalla in a bad way. It retains the same rigid parkour. I was hoping for a return to the Odyssey style which was so much quicker and smooth.

Hopefully the lighting isn’t completely fucked in this game. Valhalla gave me headaches.

Mirage really benefited by being small game, those bloated open world AC games are worse and worse since Origins. Bring back Unity quality Ubisoft...

 

[adamsapple]

Hilarious how many of the comments are from people who don't live in Japan but posted their comments in Japanese using translators and even confess that they aren't Japanese.

Shades of the change.org petition and its 'top supporters'.

 

[kruis]

Maybe in the US or Canada or other western countries. This isn't how it works in Japan. To their eyes, a foreign-born person will never be Japanese, let alone one who has moved to Japan when he was a full adult. I don't even think Yasuke would have ever viewed himself as Japanese. I know people who have emigrated to Japan and have been there for two decades and still don't consider themselves Japanese. Hell, you can even take it a step further. There are Japanese-born East Asians (Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc) who have been in Japan for generations and Japanese is their mother tongue and they still do not consider themselves Japanese, nor do the locals view them as such.

There are tons of Youtube videos of interviews with mixed-race Japanese who are in all respects completely Japanese except their looks and they generally have a rough time because they're seen as a foreigner everywhere they go for the entirety of their life. When they go live in the country of their non-Japanese parent, they feel like an outsider as well. Pretty sad.

 

[rubenburgt]

This game reminds me of the African Cleopatra in that netflix show.

The same wokeness, the same mess, and the same stupid responses from the creators.

It's clearly not working so why do companies keep trying?

 

[Robot Carnival]

You don't need to be Japanese to know why they don't like it because they have told the whole world why and there is no excuse.

I'm going to assume you mean the Japanese don't like the game simply because Yasuke is black? that they are racist is the only reason? I apologize if that's not what you mean, but I will be the first to admit that there are a lot of racist opinions within the East Asia countries, but it definitely is not the only reason this game is being dislike there. this is the first mainline AC title that's set in one of the major East Asia countries. after seeing all the attention and care the series had received before and all of a sudden when the game is set in your country, during one of the most famous period in your country's history, where there are literally dozens more well known and more popular historical figures, and you end up with a game that not only got the architecture and interior details wrong, but also a main protagonist who's not even your own people, then I don't blame them for disliking it. again, context is key here and I think some folks are not seeing the whole picture here.

 

[Braag]

Have the writers of the game called them bigots yet?

 

[Natsuko]

300 is already a whole army. I guess that's good? Somehow? Almost an entire army has liked the trailer. You just have to see it in a positive light.

 

[MMaRsu]

Ugh... It has Valhalla "quality" all over it.

Their horse physics have been shit since forever. Rdr2 put up such an amazing display of creatures, on the PS4, and Ubisoft's horses are sliding all over the floor as they have been doing since Origins.

 

[Ironman_Bad]

Based on this thread, at least one thing AC shadows has done is reveal how many people were secretly getting their minors in Japanese history. Perhaps even motivated some to pursue it. Phew.

A lot of Japanese history experts have emerged

 

[Complistic]

Ubisoft, LOL x 19

 

[Kacho]

Where’s N'Gai Croal when you need him?

 

[ReBurn]

Shades of the change.org petition and its 'top supporters'.

And weebs, probably

 

[DeepEnigma]

This game reminds me of the African Cleopatra in that netflix show.

The same wokeness, the same mess, and the same stupid responses from the creators.

It's clearly not working so why do companies keep trying?

Always follow the money.

 

[ReyBrujo]

Dang, I guess Ubisoft will lose those 40k sales they get in average per AC release in Japan!

Where’s N'Gai Croal when you need him?

Seriously, where's the guy, he left Newsweek to join some dev group and then lost him completely. He was like the only real journalist back then.

 

[StueyDuck]

Have the writers of the game called them bigots yet?

You only play that card if your product fails commercially. It's the famous get out of jail free card for bad entertainment.

I'm surprised the borderlands movie crew hasn't called us all racists and bigots yet

 

[BlackTron]

Japan should make a game based in the Wild West starring a Chinese person. There could have been one there, seriously. And it's never been done before. What do you say, could RDR be dead?

 

[marquimvfs]

Interesting why? Because he's simply an African "samurai" in feudal Japan? Is that the only reason its such an interesting choice?

I suspect that's very likely the same sort of "interesting" that compelled Ubisoft to go with him in the first place.

Please elaborate on what - other than the race of the protagonist within in the context of the setting - makes him "one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting"?

Remember - its not the fact that someone made a piece of entertainment about a black samurai that makes it woke.

What makes it woke is that these decisions are not coming from genuine, organic ideas anymore - but rather deliberate, preconceived agendas with a ton of corporate support behind them, and we have a slew of other examples across entertainment over the last 10 years that prove this to be true.

If there was a game made about a black samurai in 2004, nobody would bat an eye, because the machine pushing all of this stuff didn't exist in 2004 - and the idea for the game likely would have organically come from some small group of developer dudes trying something "different and cool" - but in 2024, we know that's not what's actually going on.

Nobody said anything about Halle Berry being cast as Catwoman in 2004 - Halle Berry was simply hot as fuck and fit the role well. "Woke" didn't exist. "Wokeness" was not even a thing that ever crossed anyone's mind - because why would it?

Nobody called Afro Samurai woke. So, yes, you're generally right.

 

[BlackTron]

Interesting why? Because he's simply an African "samurai" in feudal Japan? Is that the only reason its such an interesting choice?

I suspect that's very likely the same sort of "interesting" that compelled Ubisoft to go with him in the first place.

Please elaborate on what - other than the race of the protagonist within in the context of the setting - makes him "one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting"?

Remember - its not the fact that someone made a piece of entertainment about a black samurai that makes it woke.

What makes it woke is that these decisions are not coming from genuine, organic ideas anymore - but rather deliberate, preconceived agendas with a ton of corporate support behind them, and we have a slew of other examples across entertainment over the last 10 years that prove this to be true.

If there was a game made about a black samurai in 2004, nobody would bat an eye, because the machine pushing all of this stuff didn't exist in 2004 - and the idea for the game likely would have organically come from some small group of developer dudes trying something "different and cool" - but in 2024, we know that's not what's actually going on.

Nobody said anything about Halle Berry being cast as Catwoman in 2004 - Halle Berry was simply hot as fuck and fit the role well. "Woke" didn't exist. "Wokeness" was not even a thing that ever crossed anyone's mind - because why would it?

Utterly brilliant post. This is such a strange nuanced issue which is, partially, why it's so easy to get people riled up into camps over it.

We had diversity in the past but it didn't bother us. So why now? Did we become bigots? Did we change as people or jump on a bandwagon? I don't think so. Something else insidious changed, but it can be very difficult to articulate or express what it is.

Of course there are people who "get it" but knowingly spread it, but I think way more people are just useful idiots who really do believe that because diversity is good (which it is), it means it must be mandated per an appointed Controller. It starts to unravel when you realize these people tend to not even believe that we had it before it was forced, so they are not even equipped to make this comparison. It's simply the world pre and post their benevolence, and if they aren't successful, it will be back to dark ages and chaos.

The main drivers of the movement are smart people and know what they're doing with their army of useful idiots, and why they're really doing it.

 

[MMaRsu]

Japan should make a game based in the Wild West starring a Chinese person. There could have been one there, seriously. And it's never been done before. What do you say, could RDR be dead?

But he is a Japanese protagonist

 

[BlackTron]

But he is a Japanese protagonist

Man this really came full circle. Actually searingly relevant. Part of the point is, yeah, nobody gave a shit back then, so why now? What's different?

Honestly, even just looking at that the title, it looks like a cool game. But because we've been around the block, we know what Ubisoft is "doing" and the "real reason" they did it. We're already bracing ourselves for how lame it's going to be, because a bunch of smartass consultants butting in made it that way, not because a bunch of geek devs said "I have this crazy idea, what if..." and it's going to show in the execution.

Edit: You know what, a lot of these campaigners are so young, they would not even have been around for this game. They would probably be nonplussed to go into a time machine, go back and watch us all not giving a shit. Even worse, the reason we don't give a shit, is because they aren't there.

Another edit last time...I'm just sitting here musing about this. For a lot of young people this "fight" is so entwined in their identity, I'm afraid they won't know how to deal with this stuff as it falls apart. I fear we will have a lot of fucked up kids/young adults on our hands that don't know to look at themselves or pivot from their mindset, so it will be one bumpy road. It's a rather dark path for a generation of kids (my youngest sister is amongst them, she is 18 years under me and if Woke World fell apart she would utterly lose her mind. But, I think it's turning, gradually). I think being in a world where they have to admit they were wrong (or pretend it) is suicide level for some of these people. Again, useful idiots whose overlords care nothing for.

 

[DrFigs]

Interesting why? Because he's simply an African "samurai" in feudal Japan? Is that the only reason its such an interesting choice?

I suspect that's very likely the same sort of "interesting" that compelled Ubisoft to go with him in the first place.

Please elaborate on what - other than the race of the protagonist within in the context of the setting - makes him "one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting"?

Remember - its not the fact that someone made a piece of entertainment about a black samurai that makes it woke.

What makes it woke is that these decisions are not coming from genuine, organic ideas anymore - but rather deliberate, preconceived agendas with a ton of corporate support behind them, and we have a slew of other examples across entertainment over the last 10 years that prove this to be true.

If there was a game made about a black samurai in 2004, nobody would bat an eye, because the machine pushing all of this stuff didn't exist in 2004 - and the idea for the game likely would have organically come from some small group of developer dudes trying something "different and cool" - but in 2024, we know that's not what's actually going on.

Nobody said anything about Halle Berry being cast as Catwoman in 2004 - Halle Berry was simply hot as fuck and fit the role well. "Woke" didn't exist. "Wokeness" was not even a thing that ever crossed anyone's mind - because why would it?

Just because you ask dumb, snarky questions, it doesn't mean you have a good point to make. Yes, it is interesting that there was a black man in feudal Japan. It is unusual and is not something you see all the time in media adaptations.

 

[Topher]

Eh....I'm just hoping it is a fun game. This one doesn't get my "woke" spidey sense tingling like it does others.

 

[Hero of Spielberg]

Japan should make a game based in the Wild West starring a Chinese person. There could have been one there, seriously. And it's never been done before. What do you say, could RDR be dead?

There definitely were Chinese people in the Wild West, probably more gold miners than gun slingers.

But if they really wanted to test the waters of the modern audience, a game about a Japanese aid worker in a country in Africa who becomes jaded by racism and corruption and turns to taking out the regime by killing all the African militia, Max Payne style.

That would be an interesting litmus test.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Dang, I guess Ubisoft will lose those 40k sales they get in average per AC release in Japan!


Seriously, where's the guy, he left Newsweek to join some dev group and then lost him completely. He was like the only real journalist back then.

 

[DryvBy]

Did I miss something ?

'Complete mockery of history' its AC? In the first game there were clones, aliens and such and such. Second game had flying machines dropping bombs...

Ac has never been accurate. Why is now an issue?

Because some of those old games still managed to get things right and that's what was fun. The first one, you were roaming around fighting crusaders. The series set the tone of their reality where it's mostly not wildly inaccurate. They didn't have blue bearded crusaders marching around with machine guns. It was a period piece where you can tell the period it's in and which countries. They've been ridiculed before, especially with AC Origins. People have been dogging them every time because these people believe the product they're selling is accurate history.

AC has always been ridiculous with history, but at least they nailed one thing:

 

[kapshin]

I'd like to see Ubisoft make an AC game in Africa then have an eastern Asian as main character killing all these bad African NPCs , DEI FTW!!!!!

This sound so famlia

 

[MostlyPeaceful]

Just because you ask dumb, snarky questions, it doesn't mean you have a good point to make. Yes, it is interesting that there was a black man in feudal Japan. It is unusual and is not something you see all the time in media adaptations.

Yet somehow I doubt that this “interest” would have been the same from certain folks if Assassin’s Creed Origins had starred a white Eastern European man as its protagonist.