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[MMaRsu]

This was my take since the beginning, it's kind of unfair that Japan doesn't get two Japanese characters. There's so much bloat in these games that Yasuke could've easily have been a third character or standalone DLC.

Yasuke as a standalone DLC would have been peak.

As it stands now it's crap

 

[Radical Dreamer]

They in their feelings about bro giving that Japanese girl the business in ways she's never had

Semen got to your fucking brain lmao

 

[EverydayBeast]

Can’t blame them for disliking it, let’s get those main characters gone.

 

[Lupin25]

Maybe in the US or Canada or other western countries. This isn't how it works in Japan. To their eyes, a foreign-born person will never be Japanese, let alone one who has moved to Japan when he was a full adult. I don't even think Yasuke would have ever viewed himself as Japanese. I know people who have emigrated to Japan and have been there for two decades and still don't consider themselves Japanese. Hell, you can even take it a step further. There are Japanese-born East Asians (Koreans, Vietnamese, Chinese, etc) who have been in Japan for generations and Japanese is their mother tongue and they still do not consider themselves Japanese, nor do the locals view them as such.

Being Japanese isn't just living on Japanese soil for a number of years. This isn't the United States where it started as a melting pot of different races and ethnic groups and where everyone, regardless of religion, ethnicity, or race, can become American.

So no, Yasuke was not Japanese by any definition of the word. Nobody calls William Adams Japanese because he wasn't.

But how does that relate to what he said?

He said “immigration story”. He didn’t claim he was Japanese. Where did you read that in his quote?

 

[Gaiff]

But how does that relate to what he said?

He said “immigration story”. He didn’t claim he was Japanese. Where did you read that in his quote?

You sure?

And Yasuke is also Japanese. He was a slave, freed and lived most of his life in Japan. If i lived 90% of my life in Ireland I would consider myself Irish as well.

 

[March Climber]

Here’s some bullets for your gun Roxkis_ii

 

[Alebrije]

2024 financial results from UBI Will be interesting.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

They couldn’t even get the tatamis right: they’re rectangular never square you dumbnuts.

Things like this and the Chinese architecture…
They’re taking a dump on Japan.

 

[Lupin25]

You sure?

Missed that. Then he just contradicted what he said in his own statement.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It’s because of stuff like this that gets people riled up:

So much disrespect from ideologues that claim we are supposed to respect other cultures.

 

[Kotaro]

This was my take since the beginning, it's kind of unfair that Japan doesn't get two Japanese characters. There's so much bloat in these games that Yasuke could've easily have been a third character or standalone DLC.

the thorny issue here is that Yasuke, a black foreigner, going around killing, decapitating native Japanese, not zombie Japanese, not demon-possessed Japanese, but regular Japanese people. Mind you it's still not known if real-life Yasuke ever involved in a sword fight, let alone killing Japanese

The wokes made a such big deal about RE5 where a white guy and a black girl going around killing dark skin zombies in a fictional African country....and now suddenly they're OK with this?!?!

 

[MayauMiao]

 

[DannyDanger]

Ok, agreed, thus my point exactly - online reaction doesn't say much.

I think online reaction doesn't say much when it's from a vocal minority. But online reaction is exactly how the bud light fiasco started. Then it turned into ppl voting with their wallet after.
The problem is when online reaction comes from the perspective of ppl living in a California bubble, it's unreliable. But if the online reaction consistently leads to companies making reactionary moves, it's clear that it moves the needle

 

[Kacho]

2024 financial results from UBI Will be interesting.

Yep. Ubisoft execs are no doubt sweating bullets as they count down the days to Shadows release.

Not sure what the devs can do to reverse the negativity at this point. Seems irreversible.

 

[MMaRsu]

Here’s some bullets for your gun Roxkis_ii

Ubisoft has literally never made anything THIS cool.

And they never will.

They are like these guys

 

[Makki]

Tom Cruise is the last samurai, and this MC is the double whammy

 

[March Climber]

MMaRsu your argument isn’t with me, it’s with Roxkis_ii

I am simply throwing weapons into the gladiator arena.

 

[MMaRsu]

Tom Cruise is the last samurai, and this MC is the double whammy

Isnt Tom Cruise not actually the samurai in that movie? I dunno, never saw it.

 

[Hrk69]

I'm sure you guys talked about this somewhere else, but the funniest shit is the blatant attempt at botting positive comments for the game Ubisoft did on the international trailer.

Here's the usual Asmongold clip covering the topic really shortly:

Asmonshite clips should be fucking banned

 

[ReBurn]

Ubi should have listened months ago when Japanese gamers told them they didn't like what they saw. But as usual Ubi decided to turtle up and ignore the feedback and spew their "multicultural team of many beliefs" shit they do for all their games.

 

[MMaRsu]

MMaRsu your argument isn’t with me, it’s with Roxkis_ii

I am simply throwing weapons into the gladiator arena.

Im not arguiing with you! Im just saying Ubisoft would hope to even make something that mildly comes close to Afro Samurai

 

[MayauMiao]

Isnt Tom Cruise not actually the samurai in that movie? I dunno, never saw it.

I think the last samurai refers to the character played by Ken Watanabe, and Tom Cruise character was merely there as our eyes to see the life of a samurai.

 

[SJRB]

Tom Cruise is the last samurai, and this MC is the double whammy

Bro missed the entire point of the whole movie, lol

 

[Hrk69]

Tom Cruise is the last samurai, and this MC is the double whammy

Somebody watched the Chappelle Show

 

[DeepEnigma]

Tom Cruise is the last samurai, and this MC is the double whammy

Tom Cruise wasn't "The Last Samurai."

 

[Toots]

But Yasuke was a real dude, he was a real retainer for Nobunaga. Why is it an issue to be in Japan where he lived and got his name?

'The Japanese woman is his sidekick' i am not getting that vibe at all, it's 2 playable characters, or where the twins in Syndicate one sidekick and one main hero?

I don't see the issue, Afro Samurai was great, Samurai Champloo was awesome, why is now an issue?

Edit: to the other poster, I mean but AC had never been a good metric for historical accuracy. Ever.

I already told you, it has to do with current political battles, nothing to do with historical accuracy.
About the historical accuracy of Yasuke tho, you must be aware that the uproar from the game had repercussions in the real scientific world. The historical "expert" they hired was apparently full of shit and a lot of the Yasuke mythos for which he was responsible had no historical founding or was very thinly sourced.
But again that is not really the problem.
The problem is one side use the controversy as a way to advance their pawns on the political chessboard, while the other side use the controversy as a way to advance their pawns on the political chessboard. (I cannot make it clearer)
I guess your comments are not coming from bad faith, but if not that's a pretty naive way to see the world.

 

[Sentenza]

Asmonshite clips should be fucking banned

Again, I don't give a fucking shit about the man himself.
I don't watch him in the same way I don't watch pretty much ANY streamer.
So stop bringing him up to stir up something, because I don't care.

The point is Ubisoft blatantly BOTTING fake positive reception to their own trailer.

 

[Hrk69]

Again, I don't give a fucking shit about the man himself.
I don't watch him in the same way I don't watch pretty much ANY streamer.
So stop bringing him up to stir up something, because I don't care.

The point is Ubisoft blatantly BOTTING fake positive reception to their own trailer.

It wasn't directed at anyone in particular. I just fucking hate the guy.

Obviously I should just ignore it, but his videos are popping up left and right

 

[DarkArterialGore]

It does, you can play as a Japanese woman whose gameplay is more classic AC

And Yasuke is also Japanese. He was a slave, freed and lived most of his life in Japan. If i lived 90% of my life in Ireland I would consider myself Irish as well.

People born in Japan who have a Korean parent or even grandparent aren't even treated as being truly Japanese by Japanese society, they even have slur names for them and their subject to a lot of bullying from childhood. So it's unlikely that a gifted imperial court novelty like Yasuke would of felt comfortable or at home there considering everyone would be staring at him constantly everywhere he went.

Ubisoft wouldn't of dared make Marie Antoinette's adopted son Jean Amilcar the main character of the French Assassin's Creed: Unity game because it would of been seen as disrespectful of an historic event that they actually held dear...

 

[simpatico]

I think it is one of the most interesting protagonist choices for the setting though

It takes a very deep deep case of Marvel-brain for simple race swaps to be interesting

 

[Chuck Berry]

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[DeepEnigma]

Ubisoft wouldn't of dared make Marie Antoinette's adopted son Jean Amilcar the main character of the French Assassin's Creed: Unity game because it would of been seen as disrespectful of an historic event that they actually held dear...

 

[Kacho]

It takes a very deep deep case of Marvel-brain for simple race swaps to be interesting

 

[TGO]

more recent update, it's actually 261 likes

That's 260 REE members and EDMIX

Spoiler

I'm only joking EDMIX

 

[SteadyEvo]

How many times can the same experience be reskinned and sold as new?

 

[Sentenza]

How many times can the same experience be reskinned and sold as new?

Admittedly I'm bad at judging hype for the AC series because I never actually liked a single game in the series.
Not even the oh-so-praised second one set in Italy.

 

[Games of Today]

There will be a Japanese mod Day 1. You're better off playing Rise of the Ronin anyway. It feels like AC2 and 3 with very in depth combat.

 

[Hot5pur]

Based on this thread, at least one thing AC shadows has done is reveal how many people were secretly getting their minors in Japanese history. Perhaps even motivated some to pursue it. Phew.

 

[Bojji]

It’s because of stuff like this that gets people riled up:

Ugh... It has Valhalla "quality" all over it.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I hope it sells poorly. You force DEI into a game and I am happy to see that strategy finally backfiring.

 

[StereoVsn]

It’s because of stuff like this that gets people riled up:

This is more concerning to me vs their MC casting decision. The game just isn’t looking coherent at all.

 

[FoxMcChief]

The game is a complete mockery of Japanese culture. Of course they don't want this retarded shit.

Meanwhile anime exists and they embrace that.

 

[Neofire]

Haters gonna hate. This just reinforces how Japanese culture feels about a certain demographic. I would say since Japan is a homogeneous nation I could understand this but there's no excuse for this level of hate.

 

[Robot Carnival]

I understand maybe some folks genuinely like the whole Yasuke thing because of stuff like Afro Samurai or just the representation. but think of it this way. do you REALLY want to be a guy who was sold to Japan as a slave and then got turned to a novelty retainer simply because he's black, and then after his master was killed, ended up either spending the rest of his life in some monastery or maybe even got sold as a slave again to somewhere else?

 

[Neofire]

I understand maybe some folks genuinely like the whole Yasuke thing because of stuff like Afro Samurai or just the representation. but think of it this way. do you REALLY want to be a guy who was sold to Japan as a slave and then got turned to a novelty retainer simply because he's black, and then after his master was killed, ended up either spending the rest of his life in some monastery or maybe even got sold as a slave again to somewhere else?

You know good and damn well that's not why the Japanese people dislike the game lol stop it.

 

[Robot Carnival]

You know good and damn well that's not why the Japanese people dislike the game lol stop it.

I'm not Japanese but I am American Chinese. and I know why I would hate a Chinese theme game having a Japanese main character, let alone any other nationality ones.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Hilarious how many of the comments are from people who don't live in Japan but posted their comments in Japanese using translators and even confess that they aren't Japanese.

 

[StereoVsn]

Isnt Tom Cruise not actually the samurai in that movie? I dunno, never saw it.

He is not, but that movie is still dumb.

 

[Kacho]

Ugh... It has Valhalla "quality" all over it.

Yeah it looks very similar to Valhalla in a bad way. It retains the same rigid parkour. I was hoping for a return to the Odyssey style which was so much quicker and smooth.

Hopefully the lighting isn’t completely fucked in this game. Valhalla gave me headaches.

 

[Neofire]

I'm not Japanese but I am American Chinese. and I know why I would hate a Chinese theme game having a Japanese main character, let alone any other nationality ones.

You don't need to be Japanese to know why they don't like it because they have told the whole world why and there is no excuse.