UFC 126: Silva vs Belfort/Griffin vs Franklin/Jones vs Bader and MUCH more - 2/5/11

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Davis and Jones are the future. The only really really interesting question to me at LHW is who wins the fight between them. Probably Davis when it comes down to it.
 
AstroLad said:
Davis and Jones are the future. The only really really interesting question to me at LHW is who wins the fight between them. Probably Davis when it comes down to it.

at the moment jones has a much better overall game, there's no guarantee davis ever develops his standup or can take a punch, you'd have to guess his wrestling is better because he has better pedigree, but that's no guarantee either.

bader had better wrestling credentials than jones too...
 
That's what makes the Jones/Shogun fight so interesting. I can literally see it playing out either way with one guy dominating the other. I don't think you are going to see some middling fight that goes the distance.
 
Chael Sonnen said:
"Thank you, Anderson, for revealing yet another weakness for me to exploit in our rematch. Beating that poor punching bag doesn't impress Uncle Chael, guy. You tipped your hand like a chump poker player at a $5 table in Atlantic City. You may have beaten Vitor, but in the process, you LOST your edge. By beating that husk, you gave me the last page of your playbook. Revel in your time, [because] it ENDS the night you face me. I will mow you down like autumn wheat, AGAIN."

lol
 
I think with the Machida fights Shogun showed that he (or his camp) are capable of putting together great fight plans. I like Jones but I still think he is lacking a big name win which puts him up there in title territory. Obviously how he is after surgery is going to be a major factor with Shogun and even if it isn't Jones could still get it but I would still back him as the favourite. This match up is far more interesting than Shogun vs Rashad.
 
AstroLad said:
Couple shots from Bader, shot or two from Hamill. Wouldn't say any of those were KO shots but both of them especially Bader have power that would have a serious effect on anyone unprepared. It's kinda like how people say he hasn't been "tested," like it's his fault for dominating guys that are almost never dominated. If anything that should be a plus. Same for not getting punched in the face with power shots constantly.

None of the shots Bones got hit with were any decent, bottom line his chin is still untested and a question mark; but as you said said that's a credit to him for implementing a good gameplan and not allowing himself to get hit. Machida also had never had his chin tested before, even though he did get tagged in more than a couple of his fights. Just getting hit doesn't mean your chin is getting is tested.

yacobod said:

Attention whore fishing for attention, news at 7.

*Not calling you an attention whore, but Chael Sonnen.
 
well the question was whether he had taken any decent hits. would he survive an anderson silva heel to the face i dunno man maybe we'll never find out. but he's also shown to be very unlikely to ever resort to the brock whirlydervish
 
DKehoe said:
I think with the Machida fights Shogun showed that he (or his camp) are capable of putting together great fight plans. I like Jones but I still think he is lacking a big name win which puts him up there in title territory. Obviously how he is after surgery is going to be a major factor with Shogun and even if it isn't Jones could still get it but I would still back him as the favourite. This match up is far more interesting than Shogun vs Rashad.

Interesting, YES. But I wanted to just see Shogun KTFO of Rashad. Who I believe is way too overrated but I will save that for another day.
 
AranhaHunter said:
And none of the hits you mentioned were decent.
That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Interesting, YES. But I wanted to just see Shogun KTFO of Rashad. Who I believe is way too overrated but I will save that for another day.
Trust me I wanted to see this too. I hate Rashad. Although I was slightly concerned about a LNP win. Oh well all academic now that fight will probably never happen no matter what happens with Jones-Shogun.
 
AstroLad said:
That word, I do not think it means what you think it means.


Trust me I wanted to see this too. I hate Rashad. Although I was slightly concerned about a LNP win.

Yeah, seems like you have a different definition of what the word decent means.
 
AstroLad said:
Trust me I wanted to see this too. I hate Rashad. Although I was slightly concerned about a LNP win. Oh well all academic now that fight will probably never happen no matter what happens with Jones-Shogun.
I'd have liked to see Shogun beat Rashad too but not at the expense of then having to wait months for an interesting match up. I'd have picked Shogun to win that one too considering Rashads recent tendency to gas towards the ends of fights that are only 3 rounds long.

EDIT: Awesome picture
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yacobod said:
Chael Sonnen said:
"Thank you, Anderson, for revealing yet another weakness for me to exploit in our rematch. Beating that poor punching bag doesn't impress Uncle Chael, guy. You tipped your hand like a chump poker player at a $5 table in Atlantic City. You may have beaten Vitor, but in the process, you LOST your edge. By beating that husk, you gave me the last page of your playbook. Revel in your time, [because] it ENDS the night you face me. I will mow you down like autumn wheat, AGAIN."
lol

Damn, Chael Sonnen missed the boat. He shoulda been in the NWA in the late 80's. He coulda been a Horseman.
 
Pristine_Condition said:
Damn, Chael Sonnen missed the boat. He shoulda been in the NWA in the late 80's. He coulda been a Horseman.
He very nearly was a pro wrestler. Trained at the WCW Power Plant. Also for the build up to the Anderson Silva fight he got advice from Roddy Piper on what to say, although apparently it was so offensive he decided not to say it.
 
does Chael realistically have any shot at a rematch? I mean, it kinda feels like he blew his wad in the first fight, against an Anderson with a bad rib that might have affected his performance, and everything went perfect for him for 24 minutes. I feel like he can't really replicate that and Silva would run through him in a rematch.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
does Chael realistically have any shot at a rematch? I mean, it kinda feels like he blew his wad in the first fight, against an Anderson with a bad rib that might have affected his performance, and everything went perfect for him for 24 minutes. I feel like he can't really replicate that and Silva would run through him in a rematch.
He was going to get an immediate rematch so I would guess he has a good chance of getting one in the future.
 
I expect Andy to destroy him if he gets a rematch. Silva did not look like himself in that fight. Compare his reflexes during it to how he reacts against Belfort. The Chael fight makes him look like he's in slow motion.

I don't know Sonnen got in his head or the injury greatly hampered him but Anderson won't let that happen again.
 
i think just on the basis of roiding he shouldn't get a rematch. but dana loves some of his roiders so who knows. IF silva can be healthy and chael be mostly roid free it would be amazing to see the destruction but i think it's a waste of silva's time at this point. guy's only got a few fights left after all most likely and it's not like chael-silva was a draw or a controversial decision. chael got finished decisively

as for chael i think he is annoying and a POS and i'm kinda done with his act though i did used to think it was mildly amusing
 
Kusagari said:
I expect Andy to destroy him if he gets a rematch. Silva did not look like himself in that fight. Compare his reflexes during it to how he reacts against Belfort. The Chael fight makes him look like he's in slow motion.

if he's that injured don't take the fight. the injury excuse is always lame when used to explain a performance. chael was the best wrestler anderson had ever fought at that point, and executed his game plan almost perfectly. if chael was smarter he could have stood and struck that entire 5th round and won the decision easily. he was dumb for staying on the ground in his guard that late in the fight. the only way anderson could have won was with a sub.

i personally think sonnen has a good chance if there was a rematch, and he certainly has a better chance than gsp to beat silva.
 
Kabuki Waq said:
in no other sport can you have this crap.

If I remember correctly Shogun said in an interview he is a professional and will fight anyone. Atleast he gets it.
Is that why he and Wanderlei refused to fight each other in Pride?
 
yeah shogun has said he won't fight wand or his brother so even that line that he always says is a bit of an exaggeration. i don't have a problem with it tbh and i certainly don't think it's as bad as dana makes it out to be. some ill intentions are a good thing for a fight. watch any fight between guys who are close and they are usually fucking terrible so it's no big loss anyway imo
 
AstroLad said:
i think just on the basis of roiding he shouldn't get a rematch. but dana loves some of his roiders so who knows. IF silva can be healthy and chael be mostly roid free it would be amazing to see the destruction but i think it's a waste of silva's time at this point. guy's only got a few fights left after all most likely and it's not like chael-silva was a draw or a controversial decision. chael got finished decisively

as for chael i think he is annoying and a POS and i'm kinda done with his act though i did used to think it was mildly amusing

wait, did he actually roid? i thought it was something else.
 
Fisticuffs said:
wait, did he actually roid? i thought it was something else.
he was taking testosterone injections, which is also illegal. he tried to play it off like he needed them for medical reasons but nobody bought the act. Dana doesn't mind roiders, so he'll be welcomed back. the real question that remains is what kind of sentence is he going to to get for his money laundering scheme. He might be washing dishes at a halfway house in oregon for the rest of the year. hopefully longer.
 
TheGreatMightyPoo said:
Then his neck/cheek, certainly not the collarbone.

Not even close.

...uh, yea, very close. The upper 25% of Anderson's foot appears just above the interior of Dan's left trap; the rest of his foot would have landed squarely on the collarbone.

Dan's head movement would also indicate a hit in that region.
 
WickedAngel said:
...uh, yea, very close. The upper 25% of Anderson's foot appears just above the interior of Dan's left trap; the rest of his foot would have landed squarely on the collarbone.

Dan's head movement would also indicate a hit in that region.

You solved the case then.

You can do damage with several parts of the foot if you kick hard enough I'd say but sure, the rest of his foot might have landed near his collarbone.

I saw that dude on Poker After Dark though, his actions there alone(seen him fight as well) tell me he has a better jaw than Vitor Belfor but that's neither here or there.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
does Chael realistically have any shot at a rematch? I mean, it kinda feels like he blew his wad in the first fight, against an Anderson with a bad rib that might have affected his performance, and everything went perfect for him for 24 minutes. I feel like he can't really replicate that and Silva would run through him in a rematch.

a healthy and motivated Silva would murder Chael. but Chael doesnt deserve a rematch. not when you get subbed/KOd
 
I don't want to hear anyone booing Andy in his next fight now. I think he has more than redeemed himself for the Maia debacle and is now easily the #1 P4P.

Unlike GSP this guy goes for the fucking finish.
 
polyh3dron said:
I don't want to hear anyone booing Andy in his next fight now. I think he has more than redeemed himself for the Maia debacle and is now easily the #1 P4P.

Unlike GSP this guy goes for the fucking finish.

No he doesn't.

He's so awesome finishes come to him.
 
DominoKid said:
a healthy and motivated Silva would murder Chael. but Chael doesnt deserve a rematch. not when you get subbed/KOd
That's the truth right there. The excuses were such B.S. but given his other troubles I don't think we'll see him fight anyone anytime soon.

This card did not disappoint. I wish I could have been at a venue with more enthusiastic fans so I could have seen the crowd react to Silva's match-winning kick.
 
MjFrancis said:
That's the truth right there. The excuses were such B.S. but given his other troubles I don't think we'll see him fight anyone anytime soon.

This card did not disappoint. I wish I could have been at a venue with more enthusiastic fans so I could have seen the crowd react to Silva's match-winning kick.
Mark my words, Chael will get off with probation and a fine in March and then he'll get a tuneup fight booked for May-July. He wins that and then we'll see the rematch.
 
okami's win aganist marquardt was really unimpressive. it's a gray maynard situation almost where if he had won in a decent fashion he would have been given the shot but he hasn't been and there's really nobody in that putrid division for him to fight.
 
The "Silva would dominate Sonnen in a rematch" sounds awfully lot like "the real Bj Penn will smash Edgar in the rematch"... I don't see any good reasons why a second match couldn't look much like the first.

Host Samurai said:
Why doesn't Wandy fight for the MW title?

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The Bisping fight being his debut at MW.
 
Prisen said:
The "Silva would dominate Sonnen in a rematch" sounds awfully lot like "the real Bj Penn will smash Edgar in the rematch"... I don't see any good reasons why a second match couldn't look much like the first.
you mean with sonnen getting subbed like he always does?
 
AstroLad said:
wand having any relevance whatsoever is really a testament to the state of that division
it's just his name at this point... I find it hilarious how EVERY FUCKING MIDDLEWEIGHT calls him out after winning his fight.
 
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