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[Donald mac Ronald]

ITV aired an interview with one of these invading Morlocks trying to garner sympathy, the audacity.

In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .

But it's not a vacuum.
Peoples anger is 25+ of mass immigration, no housing and huge crime that's been hidden from the public.
All you have to do is look at Germany's crime stats. They record every crime with every suspects nationality - it's insane the amount commited by foreign nationals almost unreal.

This is what the looney left don't understand. People have voted against mass immigration every single time for the last 15 years and it's only increase. Houses all gone etc. and they are sick and tired of being called racist and far right for having normal sane views that immigrant has made them poorer.

And now watching illegals migrates getting military escorts by the French, only for British border force to safety pick them up like a taxi and then given 4 star hotels. And then moved into a free houses all paid for by the tax payer while british go homeless.

Oh and lets just forget that where everyone of these hotels goes that are filled with men, crime follows.

The home office keeps pumping out videos gaslighting the public with videos of how they are stopping the boats, if people come here illegally they will be sent back. No wonder they wanted the online safety act..

 

[Sonik]

After reading your little diatribe it would seem you're the one dishing out the mindless takes. Do you have any Muslim friends?

Donald mac Ronald I made a post that made it pretty clear how the Pakistani flag came about.

Do you even understand the difference between an individual and demographics? I, for example, could have a Muslim friend, even 10, but I'd still insist the specific demographic is cancerous to civilized society because of the overwhelming evidence based on 20+ years of watching European cities turn into uncivilized shitholes and Muslim immigrants refusing to integrate. Yes, some immigrants have integrated in our societies and we should definitely keep them but the demographic problem needs to be addressed

 

[P:axMagellanic]

In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .

Not this cunt that I watched. He said 'I'll be happy with just a bed, three meals and the government to spend about £500 a month on me'. All I could do was laugh.

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Not this cunt that I watched. He said 'I'll be happy with just a bed, three meals and the government to spend about £500 a month on me'. All I could do was laugh.

He actually said that? I read the story on itv with the still, didn't watch the interview I will have to.

Jesus Christ they really are parasites

 

[ItsGreat]

Do you even understand the difference between an individual and demographics? I, for example, could have a Muslim friend, even 10, but I'd still insist the specific demographic is cancerous to civilized society because of the overwhelming evidence based on 20+ years of watching European cities turn into uncivilized shitholes and Muslim immigrants refusing to integrate. Yes, some immigrants have integrated in our societies and we should definitely keep them but the demographic problem needs to be addressed

Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.

 

[Sonik]

Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book

Calling out an ideology, which is what a religion is, will never be racist no matter how much you people are trying to make it so. This is the equivalent of me calling nazis psychos and you crying that I'm being racist towards Germans or white people, maybe this shit was acceptable during the days when the internet had become a hugbox for the woke cult but no more. There are clear and observable facts about Europe and Islam and no matter how much you cry racism you can't deny them

 

[thefool]

Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.

 

[ItsGreat]

Calling out an ideology which is what a religion is will never be racist no matter how much you people are trying to make it so, this is the equivalent of me calling nazis psychos and you crying that I'm being racist towards Germans or white people, maybe this shit was acceptable during the days when the internet had become a hugbox for the woke cult but no more. There are clear and observable facts about Europe and Islam and no matter how much you cry racism you can't deny them

You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.

 

[kruis]

Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.

Not every foreign culture is equally compatible with western culture. There's a reason why Chinese and Indians integrate so much easier in western countries than people from let's say Somalia or Pakistan. The same phenomenon is happening all over the western world

 

[Sonik]

You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.

Weird how they "born into families and cultures across the world" and yet the vast majority of them have the same medieval practices and beliefs, huh? It's as if they follow the same ideology or something. Also love how you're rejecting the comparison yet if we apply your own words to nazis, there are also nazis that are from "many different families and cultures across the world", so maybe we should stop generalizing about them too now, right?

 

[kruis]

These issues keep cropping up. Why doesn't the UK government simply ban all displays of Englishness? Ban the flag, rename that part of the UK, bury the history of that region, disband all "English" sports leagues, if need be rename the English language to "British" and put protesters on a plane to Siberia until the memory of England has vanished and Pakistanis and Bangladeshi living there can finally have peace.

 

[Bojji]

You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.

Before their ancestors were murdered/raped/enslaved they weren't Muslims.

Same is true for Christianity but unlike Islam Christianity has central power(s) and had reformation, now it's completely different and very compatible with modern world. Islam is just as barbaric as in 7th century.

 

[nkarafo]

Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.

I was born in a Christian family and culture and i'm still an atheist.

Religion is a choice. It's not something you can't change like race or sex. It's a choice just like your political leanings, or whatever football team you support and what console you chose to shill.

So no, it's not racist to bash islam, christianity, atheism, etc. But do continue and use that word in every context, it's your fault it doesn't have any meaning or power anymore. Nobody cares.

 

[ItsGreat]

I was born in a Christian family and culture and i'm still an atheist.

Religion is a choice. It's not something you can't change like race or sex. It's a choice just like your political leanings, or whatever football team you support and what console you chose to shill.

So no, it's not racist to bash islam, christianity, atheism, etc. But do continue and use that word in every context, it's your fault it doesn't have any meaning or power anymore. Nobody cares.

You're hiding behind word games. you're smearing whole Muslim communities. That's not critique of ideas, that's targeting people. Calling it just ideology is a fig leaf for prejudice.

At school we were taught prejudice and stereotypes are the breeding ground for racism. You're pretending they're separate, but they're a straight line: stereotype -prejudice - discrimination -racism.

Prejudice and stereotypes are just the start racism is where it ends.

 

[Dirk Benedict]

In a vacuum I could partial feel some slight empathy for the guy. he might be a genuinely nice guy who just wants to get a job and build a life .

But it's not a vacuum.
Peoples anger is 25+ of mass immigration, no housing and huge crime that's been hidden from the public.
All you have to do is look at Germany's crime stats. They record every crime with every suspects nationality - it's insane the amount commited by foreign nationals almost unreal.

This is what the looney left don't understand. People have voted against mass immigration every single time for the last 15 years and it's only increase. Houses all gone etc. and they are sick and tired of being called racist and far right for having normal sane views that immigrant has made them poorer.

And now watching illegals migrates getting military escorts by the French, only for British border force to safety pick them up like a taxi and then given 4 star hotels. And then moved into a free houses all paid for by the tax payer while british go homeless.

Oh and lets just forget that where everyone of these hotels goes that are filled with men, crime follows.

The home office keeps pumping out videos gaslighting the public with videos of how they are stopping the boats, if people come here illegally they will be sent back. No wonder they wanted the online safety act..

That law was never about children. The UK Gov doesn't give a shit about children, as we have seen over the years. It's about controlling narrative indefinitely and through the control of language. I really hope the people don't lay down because it's a trojan horse. One they keep attempting to ramrod into the U.S with a similar bill.

 

[DaciaJC]

You're hiding behind word games. you're smearing whole Muslim communities. That's not critique of ideas, that's targeting people. Calling it just ideology is a fig leaf for prejudice.

"Hey, you can't just say Nazism has no place in our society, that's smearing whole Nazi communities! After all, there were a lot of moderate Nazis, hell, many of them didn't even fight in the war. I mean, sure, Nazis were responsible for rounding up and slaughtering thousands of Jews in every country they invaded based on the example of their founding leader and the principles laid out in his book, but that's no basis for ostracizing them. If you do that, you're not critiquing their ideology, you're just targeting people."

 

[ItsGreat]

"Hey, you can't just say Nazism has no place in our society, that's smearing whole Nazi communities! After all, there were a lot of moderate Nazis, hell, many of them didn't even fight in the war. I mean, sure, Nazis were responsible for rounding up and slaughtering thousands of Jews in every country they invaded based on the example of their founding leader and the principles laid out in his book, but that's no basis for ostracizing them. If you do that, you're not critiquing their ideology, you're just targeting people."

Your Nazi comparison is the clowning here. Nazism was a short-lived political cult built on genocide.

Islam is a 1,400-year-old global faith with 2 billion people living ordinary lives, all with different interpretations. Pretending they're equivalent is just your lazy attempt to justify your prejudice.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Your Nazi comparison is the clowning here. Nazism was a short-lived political cult built on genocide.

Islam is a 1,400-year-old global faith with 2 billion people living ordinary lives, all with different interpretations. Pretending they're equivalent is just your lazy attempt to justify your prejudice.

Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.

 

[Boo Who?]

Calling an entire religion cancerous isn't demographics, it's pseudoscience racism. And the I know a few good ones, but the rest are a problem' line is the oldest racist dodge in the book.

I'll do one better and say, there are zero good ones.

 

[Kacho]

I think we're well past the point of ignoring obvious problems with a certain demographic and their inability to integrate into western societies en masse. Attempts to silence people by calling them racist is no longer effective either. No one gives a shit anymore.

 

[StabbyStabStabStabStab]

Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.

Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),

EDIT: Actually Dubai? Hmmm... nah too much flash for me...

 

[winjer]

Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),

EDIT: Actually Dubai? Hmmm... nah too much flash for me...

Malaysia has a somewhat secular take on Islam. That is why its not terrible.
But look at the countries are lean stronger into Islam, and they are all terrible places to live as a normal citizen.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Malaysia's alright - bloody great curry puffs, I'd live there just for them (until I get sick of eating them daily of course then I'd just move somewhere else),

I'd pick Turkey, which is a very "mild" muslim country and Western pros are well regarded. Food is amazing (there you get to eat real fruits, not the chemical tasteless trash we eat nowadays) and people are very welcoming, truly a great place.

However, you have to agree with religion dictating lot of events of your daily life. It's ironic that the most vocal supporters of immigration are people who label themselves as "atheist". They wouldn't stand one month in a place where religion enters your home, whether you like it or not. I'd do it only for outrageous money.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

You're not "calling out an ideology." You're smearing millions of people with one brush. Islam is as varied as Christianity but you're pretending it's a single bloc of extremists so you can justify your prejudice. Comparing Muslims to Nazis is a false equivalence and you know it. Nazis chose a political movement. Muslims are born into families and cultures across the world, most living peacefully.

Somehow I sencerely doubt you're as understanding and benevolent to Christians as you are to Islam.

 

[ItsGreat]

Please tell me one single muslim country in any historical period where you would like to live.

That's a silly rhetorical question. No religion's history is great. Millions of Muslims live in Europe today as neighbours and workers. Reducing them to some caricature of failed states is just lazy prejudice.

Somehow I sencerely doubt you're as understanding and benevolent to Christians as you are to Islam.

I don't understand. What sick burn are you trying to make?

 

[DaciaJC]

Your Nazi comparison is the clowning here. Nazism was a short-lived political cult built on genocide.

And Islam is a long-lived religious cult built on genocide ... as well as rape, slavery, and violent conquest; one whose adherents have killed 250,000 people in terrorist attacks over the last four decades.

Continue to wallow in ignorance, though, I'm sure that will serve you well.

 

[ItsGreat]

And Islam is a long-lived religious cult built on genocide ... as well as rape, slavery, and violent conquest; one whose adherents have killed 250,000 people in terrorist attacks over the last four decades.

Continue to wallow in ignorance, though, I'm sure that will serve you well.

Good set of false equivalence. Bravo.

Also, your presumption of ignorance is pretty pig ignorant. Proper keyboard warrior ignorance.

 

[Three]

I'd pick Turkey, which is a very "mild" muslim country and Western pros are well regarded. Food is amazing (there you get to eat real fruits, not the chemical tasteless trash we eat nowadays) and people are very welcoming, truly a great place.

However, you have to agree with religion dictating lot of events of your daily life. It's ironic that the most vocal supporters of immigration are people who label themselves as "atheist". They wouldn't stand one month in a place where religion enters your home, whether you like it or not. I'd do it only for outrageous money.

That's because the athiests understand enough to know that rational thought about immigration is more important than basing shit on your "beliefs" only. Take the murder rate mentioned in Norway for example somebody brought up. Is it based on actual data regarding murder and immigration? Nope. The UK has seen a decline of murders over the years, this goes against the idea that immigrants are increasing murders. Then when somebody mentions that more people were killed in Vegas by a single person than the entire country of Norway across an entire year those murders are apparently "different" because in 2011 Anders Behring Breivik a right-wing Islamophob Christian who killed numerous Norwegian teenagers is catagorised as "not the same" for reasons too.

This is the world we live in, people making silly correlations that don't exist based on single events based on their own prejudices. Saw this recently from your typical right-wing paper and its uproar again here too

Should we start to ban religious tourists now too?

Athiests know well enough that beliefs about a group of very different people based on their association to a religion or circumstance does not define the person just because of some bad people out there.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

 

[Major Insano]

I don't understand. What sick burn are you trying to make?

They're calling you out for having selective outrage, and being an islam apologist.

 

[kat_on_the_roof]

Dont fall for ragebait folks.
Keep calm and always remember. Best way to sell news is with fear or with rage.

Don't buy what your are being peddled to by the news media.

 

[ItsGreat]

They're calling you out for having selective outrage, and being an islam apologist.

They're calling out selective outrage whilst obsessively scapegoating one religion? What a crock of hypocrisy.

Criticising the prejudice in this thread isn't apologism it's just me refusing to let lazy stereotypes stand unchallenged.

 

[ItsGreat]

Here's a live stream of protests happening today.

Listen to voices in the background, you'll hear all manner of unhinged remarks. Listen to the effort the host is making to not come across as a raging racist.






EDIT:. Hehe. The ay_audits guy got arrested for breaking his CPN.

https://www.westyorkshire.police.uk/ask-the-police/question/Q835