Well, UKIP want to get rid of political correctness, so they'd be ok with them doing what you said. Also, they'd allow them to carry guns.
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UKIP leader defends racist colleague, claims "Chinky" is an everyday word for Chinese
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Well, UKIP want to get rid of political correctness, so they'd be ok with them doing what you said. Also, they'd allow them to carry guns.
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It's not funny, but I just laughed. Fucking idiots
Grew up in Yorkshire and would say the same. Definitely heard it more as a kid than I do now.
WadiumArcadium
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I hate UKIP. I hate the fact that more people seem to be supporting them even more. They see their anti-immigration stance and instantly jump to their side. I guess nothing else matters.
Broken Joystick
At least you can talk. Who are you?
That's true, no offence intended. (I forget sometimes because the one I used to live near was actually run by Pakistanis.)
Really?
I've heard it regularly for the entirety of my near 30 years here simply as a shortening for a Chinese takeaway. I don't think I've heard it that frequently in a "this chink on the bus" way though.
Don't think I've ever heard anything other than Indian/Curry/Ruby for an Indian takeaway.
Paki on the other had was far more common as a slur, though it's fallen out a fair bit compared to when I was younger.
Ukip however, are shits.
ratcliffja
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Who has time to remember which slur goes with which group?
Solid Samus
Banned
there is no shortage of hateful retards
This plus a misplaced idea that UKIP represent 'fuck the establishment'
ConfusingJazz
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Honestly, how hard is it to say Chinese food?
Hell, you don't even have to say food in most contexts!
Hell, you don't even have to say food in most contexts!
Solid Samus
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Ahah
cjp
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No, it's really not that simple and making bullshit absolutist statements like this are only going to proliferate the ignorance that you are seemingly so against.
Screaming Meat
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Yeah, but some twats are more twatish than others.
Oh, so it must just be that people really want to smoke in pubs, carry guns, ban political correctness, allow workplace discrimination, and unregulate paid holidays, sick pay and maternity leave then. I mean, if it was about Europe, surely you could vote either Tory or Green both of whom promise a referendum and have never had (well, not recently had with the case of the Tories) the above policies?
Miles Quaritch
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Interesting that you choose to only focus on the Chinese slur rather than everything else that's listed in the OP.
Doesn't that paint a very specific picture of the party, one that isn't out of place next to the likes of the BNP, or are you going to argue it's just a few bad apples and you're voting for the 'good ones'?
It makes me sad that these people claim they want what's best for the country I live in but are biggoted racists and the fact there's a lot more people in this country who actually support the shit they spout.
It makes me ashamed to even want to admit I'm British anymore. I just want to distance myself as far away from these people who claim they're proud to be British as possible. I know there's been parties just as bad such as the BNP and National Front before, but these people are actually getting publicity and somehow managed to get voted in as representatives in the EU. I feel sick :/
It makes me ashamed to even want to admit I'm British anymore. I just want to distance myself as far away from these people who claim they're proud to be British as possible. I know there's been parties just as bad such as the BNP and National Front before, but these people are actually getting publicity and somehow managed to get voted in as representatives in the EU. I feel sick :/
Miles Quaritch
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I expect they'll eventually go the way of the BNP. Once people realise they are mostly impotent when they get elected to local government and can't deliver on the promises of change, people will eventually become disillusioned.
As for the protest vote, I really wish more people would look towards the Green Party.
I'd have voted for Green now that the Liberals are (essentially) no more. Problem is, with the rise of UKIP, I pretty much have to vote Labour just to cancel out some racists' vote. Democracy is deeply flawed.
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah, unfortunately that's the main problem when it comes to voting for who you want. You sometimes have to take others poor and often ill informed choices into account to make sure their madness doesn't impact you and those around you too negatively.
Still, it's good to see another party like them starting to grow, while they are still lagging behind the likes of UKIP in terms of voter base, funding, etc, they are slowly starting to catch up.
Hopefully they continue to grow and gain more mainstream attention as a viable and sensible party to protest vote for or just vote for in general.
I'd love to see a system where you have to answer a number of multiple choice questions on the policies of the party you're voting for, with your vote counting for more if you get more right. Unworkable unfortunately, but would be nice.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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Fixed that for you.
Wouldn't motions really struggle to get passed with proportional representation though? Especially with the two main parties standing at 32% each in the approval ratings.
PJV3
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Coalition would be expected and negotiations could be done before elections to some degree, unlike the last backroom deal hashed out by a few.
FPTP needs to go, I could vote for a real left party who would need to compromise but there would actually be some socialists in parliament.
Unfortunately, this won't happen. It seems very unfashionable to actually give a shit about people these days. Maybe Proportional Representation gets a few of them in...but they'll just get outvoted anyway.
Vermillion
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I actually didn't know that people said it. Guess it's weird UK slang.
cjp
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No, no, you're quite right, all 4,376,635 people that voted UKIP at the 2014 European elections are all undoubtedly racists. How ignorant to think otherwise, I mean, it's just so simple.
On Europe, proposing a referendum isn't the same as promising an outright withdrawal.
Ah, yes, the Greens. The party that doesn't want to send females to prison because they're females.
Why would such a progressive and equality focused party argue for a greater entrenchment of gender roles and the unequal treatment of men and women under law?
Also the party that wants a massive cut on all defence spending because if a threat emerged, we could just rebuild the armed forces before they got here.
A party concerned with overpopulation...
...but wants to progressively remove all forms of border control. I didn't realise immigration didn't cause population growth.
and not take either the resources or skills of those wanting to emigrate into the UK into account.
And this without highlighting their entire anti science stance, including moronic views on nuclear power, GM foods, transport infrastructure.
Viable and sensible aren't really words I'd use to describe them. And from a cursory glance, Caroline Lucas's voting record has been:
Not to say they don't have some good policies, of course. I can only hope any popularity gain comes hand in hand with a reduction on some of their more batshit insane aspects.
IdreamofHIME
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I do agree that most people who use it aren't trying to be offensive in the same way as calling a black person the N word clearly has malice intentions, but the fact is these are offensive word and the onus is on us to tell people who use these words so casually to use a different word.
Same thing goes for using "gay" as a negative. My skin crawls when I hear a little kid say something they don't like is gay. The kid isn't a homophobe, it's just a word he's using because that's what he's been exposed to. We who know better should be making the effort to teach him otherwise. We might get told to piss off (or knifed), but the alternative is pretty grim.
The best one was a guy on the bus calling my ex girlfriend a chink. When I explained it's meaning to her she was like "But I'm Thai, should I inform him?". Bless her.
Though she comes from a country where every Westerner is a "Farang"...which i find pretty offensive.
jesus isn't happy with him either.
Jesus happy to wear trainers made in a sweat shop though.
It's really not. I've lived here for most of my life and have never heard such a shitty term used for Chinese food. :/
IdreamofHIME
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Part of it is people feeling sorry for them. To the average person, it seems Farage is being bullied. I'm no fan of the guy, but last week on HIGNFY they had this whole thing about him being against breast feeding in public and then ripped the shit out of him for being in favour of page 3...even though he's never even said this. They were literally making shit up Fox news style and claiming it was his opinion.
Reginald D Hunter was so pissed off at them for this, he pretty much told them to shut the fuck up.
where do you live, that you've never ever heard it used?
I'm in Edinburgh btw.
ConfusingJazz
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So I can just add a y to racial slurs, and it's considered alright to UKIP?
Guerrillas in the Mist
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You hear it up here in Scotland a fair bit. I don't hear it as often today, mind you, so it seems to be a generational thing.
I live in northwest, heard no one use this or the word Chink to refer to a Chinese. In my time here in UK the only time I heard it was in a video game I think. It's used a lot in India and that was the only place where I saw people commonly use this in a derogatory sense towards North-East Indians who look asian.
OrangeGrayBlue
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So the UKIP is like the British equivalent of the US' tea party conservatives?
EdibleExplosives
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Nigel Farage acting like a cunt as usual. Yet the racist idiots in this country will claim he's just saying what we're all thinking!
Vigilant Walrus
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Nigel Farrage is a crazy mofo. First time I ever saw him, still makes me laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpYIKF1wuyE
Yeah it is. They're racial slurs and not really acceptable now, but you're right, it was very common place by a certain generation, and not necessarily said with malice.
That said, as a politician he should be more aware.
Well, I'm not sure it is just anti-immigration, I think a number of people are just fed up with the main political parties.
It's common sense!
Not quite that bad, but that kind of thing, yeah.
Paki was used against anyone from Pakistan, India or Bangladesh though, so it was very ignorant. Especially considering that those countries don't exactly love each other.
Messofanego
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It's almost a reflex for these people to say stupid shit like they're out of Clockwork Orange.
fizzelopeguss
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As opposed to the thousand of girls that are being passed around rape gangs in the north, to the full awareness of the establishment? Or molesting vulnerable women and attempting to keep it hushed up.
How about actually murdering kids which is finally now coming to light.
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/dec/18/london-police-vip-child-sex-abuse-murder
You have to be a mental-man to not feel sick to your stomach at our politics.
Pankratous
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I haven't heard anyone say chinky in ages. It used to be the done thing, maybe ten years ago. It was definitely extremely common. "Just going to the chinky". Nowadays even people I consider to be neds don't even say it. People have moved on from casual racism for the most part, it is embarrassing that he hasn't.
ItAintEasyBeinCheesy
it's 4th of July in my asshole
So that's what Ricky Gervais is saying all the time
"Oooh chinky"
"Oooh chinky"
Messofanego
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What?! Had no idea such a phrase could be so regular back in the day.
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