Brawly Likes to Brawl
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(Unanimous) Texas Supreme Court: No inherent right to gay marriage benefits
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Autodidact
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Yes, it is. But the liberals in the big cities lack the numbers to outvote the old white people in the sticks. That's why increasing Latino turnout across the whole state should be priority number one.
whyamihere
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I mean yes this is awful but will also survive about 3 seconds at the SCOTUS before being slapped down.
Disheveled_Zen
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It is, but Texas is a big ass state. So even with several very large cities you still get out numbered by the backwater thinking people who live in the boonies.
Yeah but it is a time race. If one of the five retire or die, things change dramatically. The "elections matter" mantra has never been more appropriate.
InfiniteBento
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Yikes
whyamihere
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Not really. There was a 6-3 majority in Pavan. Kennedy isn't going to retire this term. You're fine.
Obergefell was 5-4.
whyamihere
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Yes I'm aware. Pavan was 6-3.
WascallyWabbit
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Ah, good to know, thanks. Still though, he seems to get more latino voters than most so that's something!
I would not rely on Roberts as a shoe in because of Pavan. You just can't say that with certainty.
DontBeThatGuy
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Yep. It's a malicious waste of time and money orchestrated by pure scum.
whyamihere
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You literally didn't know what Pavan was 5 minutes ago lmao
I love how Texas is all about their freedoms except when it comes to non-christians, minorities, immigrants, being pro-police state...
DiamondDog74
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My God. So many wasted resources on bullshit. As a gay man, I'm so tired of the "we support you but its wrong" tapdance
balladofwindfishes
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Now that Obergefell is established, Roberts seems to side with the majority on gay matters.
Sweeney Tom
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You literally didn't know what Pavan was when the thread started
Keep moving those goalposts
What are you going on about? lol
CelticKnight
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...just don't propose afterwards.
I wasn't here when the thread started.
How about no. There are plenty of liberals in other cities in Texas, myself included. The blue time will come.
whyamihere
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You can't speak with certainty on a decision you literally weren't aware existed and John Roberts's thoughts when he just signed on to an opinion that said Obergefell gives the rights of marriage, not just the piece of paper.
I knew it existed but thanks for the the attempted mind read.
whyamihere
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I mean, I'm going to go on a limb and say that since you don't seem to understand how the courts work and replied to Pavan with your the opinion on Obergefell that you didn't know what Pavan. You should read it sometime.
Raven117
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Well, I'm certainly shocked. /sarcasm
There is something goofy going on here though from a legal perspective.
There is no way in gods green earth that a plaintiff wouldn't sue in Federal Court for this. Its a Constitutional Question (even if implicating STATE issues regarding same sex marriages) by virtue of the 14th Amendment.
How did this case get to the Texas Supreme Court? Something is fishy.
There is something goofy going on here though from a legal perspective.
There is no way in gods green earth that a plaintiff wouldn't sue in Federal Court for this. Its a Constitutional Question (even if implicating STATE issues regarding same sex marriages) by virtue of the 14th Amendment.
How did this case get to the Texas Supreme Court? Something is fishy.
Oh but I'm sure you do, right? You are a confident little legal eagle aren't you? You can go on as many limbs as you like, it doesn't make it true.
Stumpokapow
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Pavan is a decision under the current court (with Gorsuch included!) that asks the question "Can Arkansas deny spousal benefits to gay married couples?" The specific spousal benefit was automatic parentage on a birth certificate. This case was decided earlier this week.
This is a case that asks the question "Can Texas deny spousal benefits to gay married couples?" The specific spousal benefit is government-provided employment-based spousal benefits.
The idea that Roberts has flipped in the last 7 days and Kennedy is going to retire and Jerry Falwell is going to be appointed to fill Kennedy's seat and so this is going to be 5-4 for anti-gay forces is not supported by reality.
Dude, you're the one that started the dick measuring contest by ignoring the initial polite correction you got.
Sweeney Tom
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Thank you.
All I did was say I wouldn't count on Roberts, Was that not polite?
Zoe
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You're assuming Texas latinos would vote blue.
Autodidact
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TheWrathOfSean
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The fight isn't finished until there is no gay/straight marriage, but just simply marriage.
Yeah TX hates big government until cities try the same thing.
Same thing with Denton kicking frackers out and the state going "you can't pass those laws at a municipal level"
Frozenprince
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SSM is right after Roe once they get conservative judges in.
It'll be killed within two years.
It'll be killed within two years.
whyamihere
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Extremely unlikely. I'm not even quite sure if Roe will ever be overturned, though that's obviously more of an open question.
EdibleKnife
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Not much to get from the point of view of these people. God called homosexuality an abomination in the bible and these people will lie, cheat, manipulate, literally do whatever it takes to keep it an abomination for humanity for the sake of "the word". They will sacrifice their empathy and humanity to deny the humanity of people who have nothing to do with them.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Roberts was counted on on the exact same question literally this week
Sweeney Tom
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Roberts was on the pro side of this for both Obergefell and Pavan
Again I question the goalpost moving
Skellig Gra
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Wouldn't make any sense. The Supreme Court isn't likely to overturn its own decision considering they are already the final say on legal matters. If anything they would just swat it away because the lower courts are trying to question their judgement which is supreme.
Separate yet equal. Great job, Texas Supreme Court.
How the hell was it allowed to work like this?
How the hell was it allowed to work like this?