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Uncharted 3 reviews
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LeonSKennedy90
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Crunched said:
Right, I think UC2 is in my top 15 video games I've ever played, but out of those 15 games, its least "video game" of them all. I can almost play it on auto-pilot, there's not a lot of brainpower or depth behind its flashiness, nor a system that encourages replaying and trying to get better and upgrade your abilities like some of my other favorite games(Bayonetta, Resident Evil 4, Chrono Trigger, etc). It has streamlined and perfected the act of scripting, action set pieces, animation, voice acting, and all those other components of presentation that makes it so instantly accessible and amazingly satisfying to experience, at the cost of player interactivity. And that's fine and dandy for what they're doing, but it does kinda undermine what separate video games for other entertainment mediums like TV and movies and such(in that the consumer takes an active role in it).
Just jumped in this thread, but are people talking about Eurogamers 8/10 review? Isn't their "scale" a lot different from most websites?
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@jdfoster00 I actually don't think it is strong a game as the second one, and only some of that is down to familiarity with the template.
That quote kinda gets me--can't wait until he reviews a sequel in the near future. Why fix what isn't broken? Every single sequel in modern times has the same exact template.
SimonParkin Simon Parkin
@jdfoster00 I actually don't think it is strong a game as the second one, and only some of that is down to familiarity with the template.
That quote kinda gets me--can't wait until he reviews a sequel in the near future. Why fix what isn't broken? Every single sequel in modern times has the same exact template.
Surprised at Adam Sesslers review... he pretty much contrasts to Uncharted 2, but doesn't give the rating based on gaming as a whole. You can go ahead and count how many games got a 4/5 and 5/5 from X Play and end up saying, what the fuck? I know ratings aren't everything, but it's pretty ridiculous that this game couldn't get a 5. They've just exposed their rating systems flaw or completely forgot about the the meaning of giving it 5, under THEIR OWN standards. I think that Eurogamer fell into the same trap
hey_it's_that_dog
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24FrameDaVinci said:
Uncharted 3 is statistically on par with Batman:AC, but marginally lower than UC2. I think it's safe to say the crisis has just begun!
Uncharted has never been about exploration. I will say the sand stuff has been done a bit differently then I expected. Not in a bad way, just... different.Sn4ke_911 said:
- It all feels more or less the same as in U2. There's a bit less trial and error as in U2 (I died a lot less during platforming) especially when using ropes or chains.Wazzim said:
- Not really area's where you can go 'full explorer' mode, everything is rather tightly scripted. I can see where the eurogamer review is coming from, but imo it doesn't deserve such harsh criticism. I also disliked the fact that the everything is a bit too controlled for lack of a better word, but the pro's definately outweigh the con's in this case. If you liked the direction naughty dog went with U2, you will most certainly love U3. Simple as that.
Xplatformer
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But the approach in game design has been done for over 25 years. Hello, Monkey Island. Zork.
Just because parts of a game tell a story that take the control away from the gamer, that doesn't mean the games are any less "game" than a title that has no cut scenes or QTEs.
Wing Commander 3 was a great game, yet it had a ton of QTE in it. Doesn't mean the game wasn't great, nor did it's release mean that the industry was heading in the wrong direction.
Seems odd that the reviewer appears to have forgot games that have come before.
Uno Venova
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PairOfFilthySocks
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Yep, that's exactly what they did. :/Oozinator said:
This thread sure has gotten lulzy.
V_Arnold said:Can you link it?
http://twitter.com/#!/SimonParkin
He seems to be taking it pretty well.
FINALBOSS said:
SimonParkin said:
I'd say that one is more stupid than anything he said in his review. He seems to be pretty eloquent.
GregLombardi
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If you owned a PS3, you'd buy this game. It's that simple as far as scores are concerned. If you didn't own a PS3, you'd have decided by Uncharted 2 if you'd buy it for Uncharted, a fantastic set of games.
The difference between a 9 and 10 metascore average is marginal in this case. Very few games in history have ever scored close to a 10 meta average, as should be the case.
The difference between a 9 and 10 metascore average is marginal in this case. Very few games in history have ever scored close to a 10 meta average, as should be the case.
While I do agree with you, I think what we've been shown of BF3 on PC so far is definitely a beacon of achievement for the platform as far as fidelity goes in relation to all pre-modded games on the platform.Vire said:
But yes, different reviewers and such (PS3 game is gorgeous) make a difference too.
LightOfTruth
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The actual content of the reviews are mixed though. Some are saying it's better than Uncharted 2 and some are saying it isn't. That's the only the thing that should really matter, imo.
According to G4, Gameinformer, and various others:
U2>U3
According to G4, Gameinformer, and various others:
U2>U3
marathonfool
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I can't seem to understand the critique. For myself who enjoys well done narrative game design(very rare), his skepticism and forced praise feels like it is the result of a mismatched personal taste disconnected to the Uncharted series as a franchise.LeonSKennedy90 said:
plagiarize
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this thread is a train wreck. one almost as entertaining as the train wreck in Uncharted 2.
i see we're now having a wonderful argument about whether or not 10/10 = 100% = 5/5. it doesn't. i also see that we're using the average of review scores to compare games. you just can't.
scores are relative to the time the game releases. to the other games in the same genre. to the platform the game is released on. the point of giving a game a score is to give you a quick idea of if it's any good.
it isn't so you can qualitatively rate where it fits in the gaming league tables stacked against every other game on every other platform regardless of the genre.
you can't compare a 5/5 to a 100% score, so you shouldn't.
scores are stupid. ignore them. read the review, decide if the criticisms are something that will bother you or not. learn which reviewers have similar tastes to yours if you're going to read reviews.
don't bitch that the score doesn't seem to match what is implied by the text. just ignore the score.
don't bitch that a FPS or a survival action game got a higher score than an action platformer. it doesn't fucking work that way.
i see we're now having a wonderful argument about whether or not 10/10 = 100% = 5/5. it doesn't. i also see that we're using the average of review scores to compare games. you just can't.
scores are relative to the time the game releases. to the other games in the same genre. to the platform the game is released on. the point of giving a game a score is to give you a quick idea of if it's any good.
it isn't so you can qualitatively rate where it fits in the gaming league tables stacked against every other game on every other platform regardless of the genre.
you can't compare a 5/5 to a 100% score, so you shouldn't.
scores are stupid. ignore them. read the review, decide if the criticisms are something that will bother you or not. learn which reviewers have similar tastes to yours if you're going to read reviews.
don't bitch that the score doesn't seem to match what is implied by the text. just ignore the score.
don't bitch that a FPS or a survival action game got a higher score than an action platformer. it doesn't fucking work that way.
VIVIblkmgIc
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No, that's true. But none the less, all scores can be translated to percentiles. If people don't like percentiles they have to stop scoring (ie ShackNews).hey_it's_that_dog said:
LeonSKennedy90 said:
Haha. It'll probably get even weirder.
"A remarkable sequel, full of exquisite production design, stellar performances, and a smart script. Not only is TDKR one of the best films of the year, it's also a nearly perfect conclusion, even if it does lack some of the impact of its predecessor
Final Rating: 2/4, very poor"
sly2thefox
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More than enough.zoukka said:
Eurogamer thinks GOW2 and R2 are better than their sequels. Most of Gaf who have played either series knows thats not true. They rate games based on "freshness" which doesn't bode well with me and I will be be skeptical of their future reviews.
VIVIblkmgIc
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You can actually. Its called fractions.plagiarize said:
2/3=.67=67%. Thus MetaCritic exists.
Confidence Man
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The eurogamer review basically summed up what I thought about UC2. And 3 is even more linear?
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Xplatformer said:
And his thoughts on those games are....Also a big criticism towards the whole point and click genre in general is its linearity. There is only one solution to each puzzle and it's defined by the developer's logic (which leads to player frustration). That is a criticism on linearity. And at the end of the day, the reviewer still praises the other aspect of UC3's linear design, which is the ability to deliver compelling visuals.
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