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Underage teen faces life as registered sex offender for having sex with underage gf

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I don't think a 12 year old and a 14 year old should be having sex. Is this an unpopular or radical opinion?

Whatever you think on this subject has little to do with the fact that kids have been having sex well beneath the age of 18 since the dawn of time and its not going to be stopping any time soon. I think its just the hard truth people have to accept whatever their concerns, its going to happen and it is happening no matter how much you tell kids not to do it or they're going to hell or whatever. Puberty, hormones and all that win out over all that in most every case.
 

kamineko

Does his best thinking in the flying car
Houston district attorney's office must have a pretty light caseload to be taking on this kind of low-stakes, victimless horseshit
 
They shouldn’t be doing it so young but trying to slam a charge on this kid is fucking absurd.

Two underage individuals - not statutory rape.
Two legal individuals - not statutory rape. One of age individual, one underage individual - statuatory rape.

How is this not clear?

He's not being charged with statutory rape for one.
 

Seesaw15

Member
Seriously, what in the fuck?

That quote from the boys mother gave me the heebie jeebies.

That sounds like a mom on damage control trying to paint her child as a good kid and not a sexual predator. I really doubt that she was aware of the situation and approved.


He a nigga, ain't he?

Gross either way. They're literally both children.

The way the mom said "little girlfriend" made me think he's probably black.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Exactly what I was typing out.

But circumstances matter here. I mean, technically there could be only 13 months between them, but what if she just turned 12 and he's almost 15? That's very much a predator situation then, if my recollections about those ages are anywhere near accurate.
He was in 7th grade and she was in 6th grade. One grade apart is hardly "predatory"
 
This is two children here, neither of them are doing anything wrong.

Whether it's wrong or not is in the eye of the beholder. They're definitely doing something stupid. If a 14-year-old knocks up his 12-year-old girlfriend, it's pretty much going to wreck both of their lives.

Obviously, the law needs to not be getting involved at all so long as everything's consensual, but parents.....yeah, parents need to be pretty heavily involved in that situation, IMO.
 

John Dunbar

correct about everything
A two year difference is pretty big at that age. Kids probably a creep.

Not saying he deserves this though.

it might be closer to a year than two. he is a seventh grader, she is a sixth grader. maybe he just had his birthday this year already and she did not.

although maybe he has been held back, then it might be over two years.
 

Staccat0

Fail out bailed
Obviously these laws are too broad and broken but I'm not sure I would have the same sympathy if it was my 6th grader sleeping with a freshman in HS for example.
 
Exactly what I was typing out.

But circumstances matter here. I mean, technically there could be only 13 months between them, but what if she just turned 12 and he's almost 15? That's very much a predator situation then, if my recollections about those ages are anywhere near accurate. And in that case some form of action or punishment may be appropriate.

But no matter what, life as a registered sex offender for something you do at 14 isn't right.

Generally girls "mature" faster than boys anyway so thats not really the case
 
Whether it's wrong or not is in the eye of the beholder. They're definitely doing something stupid. If a 14-year-old knocks up his 12-year-old girlfriend, it's pretty much going to wreck both of their lives.

What do you think will help teenagers not get pregnant:

1. Telling them not to have sex
2. Giving them proper sex education

Hint: number 1 doesn't fucking work

Is anyone doing that?

omg read the thread before posting. Christ.
 

Figboy79

Aftershock LA
That really sucks.

Back when I was in middle school, more than a handful of my classmates were having sexual with each other. Yeah, it’s obvious that you shouldn’t be having sex that young, but the reality is that kids hormones are starting to kick up, you’re learning about sex education (we had sex ed classes during that time), and they start exploring their sexuality.

You shouldn’t be put on a sex registry for life because you were a horny teenager. As adults, I think we often forget how early those urges can begin in young people. The best we can do is teach them to be responsible and to understand the weight of engaging in sexual activity with someone.

I feel bad for this kid. Neither of them should be put on any kind of registry. I was very young when I lost my virginity too, and I can’t even imagine what my life would be like if I had been put on a sex registry because me and my girlfriend decided to have sex one weekend. Horrible.
 

Maxinas

Member
I don't think a 12 year old and a 14 year old should be having sex. Is this an unpopular or radical opinion?

A lot of people have the same opinion. Doesn't stop teens from doing so though. Teens have to deal with all kinds of stress of growing up, hormones/puberty, peer pressure (we just had a thread earlier on how people are mocked for being virgins if they are 18+).

This is a fucked up situation, and the kid doesn't deserve it.
 

Velcro Fly

Member
Whatever you think on this subject has little to do with the fact that kids have been having sex well beneath the age of 18 since the dawn of time and its not going to be stopping any time soon. I think its just the hard truth people have to accept whatever their concerns, its going to happen and it is happening no matter how much you tell kids not to do it or they're going to hell or whatever. Puberty, hormones and all that win out over all that in most every case.

I'm more concerned with having the male be a sex offender for life for something he did at 14. I just think ruining someone's life for something they did at 14 is more harmful than anything. And hey maybe in the short term not have sex for a while would be great too to avoid getting into trouble like this again. No one is they are going to hell or should be ashamed of themselves.

It isn't the best of situations but now that it has happened these young people need support rather than the law ruining one of their lives.
 
I don't think 12 year olds should be having sex, but the legal response should certainly not be the life long branding of another kid.

This is where I'm at. The first part relies on parent and schools communicating that sex can have very real and serious consequences (pregnancy, STIs, etc), the latter is a total fuckup with the law. I hope they re-examine this law.
 

Glix

Member
I don't think a 12 year old and a 14 year old should be having sex. Is this an unpopular or radical opinion?

So you think they should be branded and put on a list if they do?

We all know 14 year olds are great at making decisions and worry a lot about consequences, right?

What the fuck?
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Yep it's pretty much always the parents.

"That boy sullied my daughter!"

I hate this so much. You know how some dudes are always so worried about false reports of rape? Well, I dare say a significant portion of those false reports are from girls who are so shamed for having sex by their parents or their peers that they resort to this to avoid being in trouble. It's what the girl in the story linked above did anyway. If her dad weren't such a "grrr stay away from my daughter!!!" patriarchal control freak, none of this would have happened. Slut-shaming is an absolutely toxic mentality.
 

Eggbok

Member
Reminds me of that underage boy possibly being registered as a sex offender for having nudes of himself on his phone or something like that. Like what? These consequences seem incredibly severe when they're not even adults yet. Crazy.
 
It shouldn't even be possible to get put on the sex offender registry if you're that young. They're should be a lower age limit of like 13 or something.
 

HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
I'm more concerned with having the male be a sex offender for life for something he did at 14. I just think ruining someone's life for something they did at 14 is more harmful than anything. And hey maybe in the short term not have sex for a while would be great too to avoid getting into trouble like this again. No one is they are going to hell or should be ashamed of themselves.

It isn't the best of situations but now that it has happened these young people need support rather than the law ruining one of their lives.

I agree they shouldn't be branded for life over this but telling kids and teenagers not to have sex and expecting it to work is like telling Trump to stop tweeting and thinking it will matter.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I don't understand this. Why on earth hasn't this been looked at and revised. They're both in middle school for goodness sakes.

In my town, 6th grade is elementary school. These stories increasingly hit home as I have a 12 year old daughter.

There should be consequences, but clearly what is being proposed is ludicrous.
 
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Deleted member 1159

Unconfirmed Member
omg read the thread before posting. Christ.

I mean, you quoted a specific post and responded to it and I responded to that...like, it's not a bad opinion to think 14 and 12 year olds probably shouldn't be having sex. It's also not a bad opinion to say criminal charges and a life long brand aren't appropriate in dealing with it. Chill the fuck out.
 

PSqueak

Banned
This is idiotic, if it's underage sex, why not also put the girl in the sex offender registry? she also had sex with what legally is a child.

None of them should be put in it, but it's extra bullshit if they put the boy and not the girl.
 

Morrigan Stark

Arrogant Smirk
Parents are often part of the problem here. http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Stossel/story?id=4444516 ('08, but still relevant.)

Man I'm reading the rest of this article and it's just... wow, such bullshit:

Because he was in jail, Evans couldn't finish high school. And as a registered sex offender, he can't join the Army.

"That was my lifelong dream, to be in the military," he said. "[But the] U.S. Army doesn't want some kind of sex offender in their Army. There's no room for that. It's really ruined everything."

Considering the sexual assault epidemic going on in the US military, this strikes me as pathetically hypocritical. Stop teenagers who slept with their girlfriends from joining, but handwave and brush aside real sexual assault. Just... Fuck off.
 

Boss X

Banned
I don't think 12 year olds should be having sex, but the legal response should certainly not be the life long branding of another kid.
Agreed. When I was in the 6th grade, sex gossip was rampant through the hallways so seeing a fellow classmate being labeled a registered sex offender would be insane.
 

Tovarisc

Member
Just few weeks ago I posted news article about teenage boy who committed suicide after he was told he will be branded as sex offender for life over things he did with and to girl of his own age. They were around 14-15 if I remember right.

Edit: things are hard
 

kiguel182

Member
They shouldn’t be doing it so young but trying to slam a charge on this kid is fucking absurd.

Two underage individuals - not statutory rape.
Two legal individuals - not statutory rape. One of age individual, one underage individual - statuatory rape.

How is this not clear?

Because she is 12. She’s a child and can’t give consent. What if it was a 17 year old with a 12 year old?

I mean, obviously he shouldn’t be a registered sex offender but she was under the age of consent so it’s not as simple as “they were both underage”.
 
Because she is 12. She’s a child and can’t give consent. What if it was a 17 year old with a 12 year old?

I mean, obviously he shouldn’t be a registered sex offender but she was under the age of consent so it’s not as simple as “they were both underage”.


In Austria, a 12 year old can legally sleep with a 14 year old.
11 and 14 would be forbidden for the older kid.
12 and 15, same situation. 13 and 15 would be okay.
Below 14, they couldn't be charged with a crime. If both are over 14, it's okay too, but much stricter rules apply with regard to manipulation and abuse of immaturity.

It's a bit weird, but I think it's a system that mostly works.
 
In Austria, a 12 year old can legally sleep with a 14 year old.
11 and 14 would be forbidden for the older kid.
12 and 15, same situation. 13 and 15 would be okay.
Below 14, they couldn't be charged with a crime. If both are over 14, it's okay too, but much stricter rules apply with regard to manipulation and abuse of immaturity.

It's a bit weird, but I think it's a system that mostly works.

What you're describing sounds like Romeo and Juliet laws which don't punish teens who engage in sex so long as they're within I think 3 years of each other.
 
What you're describing sounds like Romeo and Juliet laws which don't punish teens who engage in sex so long as they're within I think 3 years of each other.

Kinda.
In Austria it's 2 years, but as the age of consent is 14 (in theory), it goes down to 12.

The thing is, if both are below the age of consent, like in this case, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be a charge.
 
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