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United Airlines violently drags a doctor off a plane so employee could take his seat
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bomb
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so you're an airline employee. You are going to want to drive 5 hours? Surely not. Also, what is the liability for the airline if they get in a car crash? Employees usually need to be on a companies insurance policy to drive a vehicle. LOL. An airline employee driving a rental car gets in a accident and they are not on the companies insurance. talk about a lawsuit.
If you need 4 seats, figure that shit out before you board not after. Absolutely irresponsible and terrible management.
Thing is it's basically a united gift card only for plane rides, I'da taken it too otherwise
I can't tell if your posts are sarcasm/trolling or not.
One airline I was on offered $1k amex gift card. You've never seen volunteers move so fast, haha.
And it had to be him? They couldn't have picked someone else after hearing this guy's story?
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
welcome to reality where he could have gotten up and said ok I guess im delayed.
that was the choice..walk out or be carried out..its still a choice.
LouisaFerre
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I like how people spend more time criticizing how consumers respond to being inconvenienced by bullshit than they do criticizing that anticonsumer bullshit, even when it serves no purpose other than to let United make more money off of inconveniencing their own paying customers.
It's really mind boggling how once you get consumers to accept something as normal, plenty of people will spend a whole lot of effort to find reasons to not hold companies to a higher standard.
We could try and turn the conversation back on the customers every time a company gets caught in a controversy over their lack of respect for said customers, but how about United just stops with the asshole policies?
It's really mind boggling how once you get consumers to accept something as normal, plenty of people will spend a whole lot of effort to find reasons to not hold companies to a higher standard.
We could try and turn the conversation back on the customers every time a company gets caught in a controversy over their lack of respect for said customers, but how about United just stops with the asshole policies?
Yeah I think $1200 would be the point where I'd jump on it.
...maybe try the option of NOT purposefully over-booking the flight that is supposed to get your employees to their destination?
For the thousands of dollars United was paying in standby compensation the flight crew could have got a limo to Chicago.
TangoAlphaLima
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You don't know what the hell you are talking about. An airline employee gets in an accident while driving a rental car so he can go do his job is taken care of by workers' compensation, for one thing. Secondly, the airline surely has broad insurance coverage, if they are not self-insured themselves. There is no significant liability issue here.
Stop making excuses for United. Sending the crew in a rental car was a perfectly reasonable option.
I mean, once you get to the stage of deliberating whether or not to call the cops, shouldn't you look at the cash-equivalent you are allowed to give them, then just call out the cutest stewardess, have her proclaim that as a special one time customer appreciation bonus, four people randomly drawn from volunteers get to sit in a luxurious limousine and be driven to their destination with pomp and a hefty on board bar (and all you can eat snack selection).
That's the most hilarious aspect of this... it wasn't even a long distance or international flight. There was no need to press down so hard.
They could have just rented a limousine with driver, spent some money on alcohol & whatever else is needed, and have the passengers arrive maybe two hours later than they would with the plane, but thoroughly wasted and happy. It'd have been a grand old adventure, damn good PR, and would probably still have been about as expensive as the 800-per-person vouchers.
That's the most hilarious aspect of this... it wasn't even a long distance or international flight. There was no need to press down so hard.
They could have just rented a limousine with driver, spent some money on alcohol & whatever else is needed, and have the passengers arrive maybe two hours later than they would with the plane, but thoroughly wasted and happy. It'd have been a grand old adventure, damn good PR, and would probably still have been about as expensive as the 800-per-person vouchers.
Skellig Gra
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You are right of course. It's a shitty policy. However its one that every airline has. The only difference here is United appears to have a lower compensation cap ($800) than some other airlines.
It's likely the simple fact that these people work for a massive faceless corporation where they have no control over anything and will likely be fired for any breach of protocol.
Hope they get sued into oblivion. Fucking hate United. Worst flight experiences I have had ever with shitty planes, terrible staff who don't know shit (some even lies about made up 'facts') etc etc. I will avoid them like a plague. I rather pay a few extra if I have to to fly another flight.
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Overbooking happens all the time. They going to make it company policy for limo drives everytime?
Hydranockz
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Ah yeah, my bad, totally justified the use of force!
Weird why the monetary values are put in the law. Just go straight to the physical violence and watch people happily volunteer their seats!
TangoAlphaLima
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$1200 is the point where it crosses from paying for national roundtrip to international roundtrip, so that definitely could have been the incentive that got some to accept the offer.
He's a doctor who had to see patients in the morning, some choice.
Calamari41
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When you're a public-facing company, you sacrifice your employees' convenience before your customers' convenience. The issue again is that airlines view their customers as no more than cattle, so you get the result here. Rather than put their employees on a bus, they fuck up a customer and drag him off of the plane.
And yes, United's employees would be covered under their insurance if they were given a car or thrown on a bus that crashed.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
of coarse it didn't need to be him..he was chosen randomly..he didn't provide enough evidence that they shouldn't consider him a valid choice..obviously.
But digging and saying NO pick someone else I'm to important wasn't a good enough reason....obviously.
Macho Madness
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Yes surely the only option the airline had was to have the man assaulted considering the whole situation was their fault in the first place.
LouisaFerre
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I really don't see how that changes anything, tbh.
The other people that chose to leave peacefully didn't have places they needed to be?
And their only choice as a result was to assault the man. Makes total sense.
We don't know what this guy's patients are like. For all we know it was some life-and-death surgery shit. Either way, I'd put that above some guy with an HR meeting in the morning for sure.
You mean the other people that didn't step up until after the doctor got his face beat in? And most likely didn't want to stay on the same flight anymore?
I don't think you thought this through real well. If Mondo were to sell 250 prints and people cancelled so that they only sold 240, they could just sell the rest of the prints since they are a physical object and not time limited. Not to mention they don't allow cancellations. https://mondotees.com/collections/posters/products/inside-out-anger-poster.
Now imagine if Mondo sold 250 prints that could only be picked up at 10:55am on Saturday January 25th and if you didn't they would burn any unsold posters so Mondo eats that cost. One option would be for Mondo to not allow changes or cancellations (which they already do) which is what the airline COULD do so that they still get paid when you don't show.
However, United allows changes to flight plans so if you were to not show and they also don't get the full ticket price AND they didn't overbook then they would be left holding the bag for most of the cost of that seat.
Overbooking allows them to be a little more flexible. Mondo just won't refund you from what it says on their site. In that sense, Mondo is really scummy since they could just sell the extra product without any issues.
BronsonLee
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Lol, I like how he ended up getting bodied anyways
Even if you know how the system works other shit might go down. It really is incredible how flights get handled from a logistics perspective, shit is wild
oh god, this thread just keeps on delivering.
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Skellig Gra
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It doesn't change the end result naturally but people should understand that when they say I'm never flying United that any airline would do this to them if they were the unlucky person.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
we all have lives and appointments, if it wasn't life threatening he could have appointments rescheduled..shit happens..
Making shitty excuses for shitty corporations.
And if it was? If it was this guy just got punched in the face and kick off his plane.
There's a world of difference between a doctor seeing a patient in a hospital and your HR meeting.
No I mean the people that were asked to leave and got off before him
Where are these other videos of people being dragged off of planes on other airlines?
Calamari41
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Why do the customers have to "reschedule" everything in their lives because of a mistake United made, rather than United having to "reschedule" some employee shifts or, god forbid, throw their employees on a bus?
ClosingADoor
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He didn't get punched in the face though.
"Shit" generally isn't because you were forced to leave a flight due to the lack of foresight by the airline you booked your travel with.
United Airlines will remember this
Any airline would violently drag someone off a plane and bash their face on a seat?
Even if they did do a shitty practice like removing someone in this manner, I don't think every airline would do that shit.
Veritigo_X
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Can the same not be said for the United employee? I'd argue the appointments a doctor has are much more important than whatever was so important for the United employee.
Blows my mind people want to step up to bat for corporations over fucking doctors.
uncredited male
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A voucher? Get fucked.
bloodydrake
Cool Smoke Luke
making shitty excuses for an entitled narcissist putting his time above everyone else cuz he's important.
cuts both ways no?
Skellig Gra
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It wasn't the airline that roughed him up it was the local law enforcement. So different airline same airport you'd probably get the same result based on the people working security.
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