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[themadcowtipper]

hmmm

Morgan Freeman+Jet Li=

http://unleashedmovie.com/


I bet Steven Seagal Is kicking himself
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0342258/trivia

The role of Danny was first offered to Steven Seagal but he turned it down so he could do Today You Die (2005) instead.

Discuss....

 

[Ghost]

:lol they must have re-written it for Jet-Li, cant imagine Seagal in that role.


I am looking forward to it all the same.

 

[ManaByte]

Danny the Dog was a better title. UNLEASED sounds XTREME

 

[karasu]

It wasn't written for Seagal. The IMDB fucks up yet again. Seagal was suppossed to be in an entirely different film titled Unleashed directed by Ring Lam. Jet's movie was originally called Danny the Dog, Unleashed is only the american title.

 

[Ghost]

Danny the dog is not a better title, sounds like a kids film.

 

[AeroGod]

I heard it blows.

 

[radiuhm]

unleashed = $$

unleashed this week
Star Wars: RoTS next week

damn can't wait, feel sorry for my girlfriend.

 

[miyuru]

I wish they kept "Danny the Dog", as one of my friends is named Danny :lol We'll still all see it together, I mean he's still called Danny in the movie

 

[karasu]

unleashed = $$

unleashed this week
Star Wars: RoTS next week

damn can't wait, feel sorry for my girlfriend.

ha! Don't evenget me started on how ridiculous it is to release a Jet li movie right before Star fucking Wars. Yet another bomb for the big guy.

Oh well, his next film will RULE! Jet li as Huo Yuen Jia directed by Ronny Yu, choreographed by Yuen Wo Ping *drool*

yes.

 

[Pochacco]

Unleashed will be great.
Watching Jet Li in awkward romantic scenes with a white girl is worth the price of admission alone.

 

[shuri]

Heard it was Jet Li's best movie.

 

[Wario64]

does jet li even speak in the film? how can it suck if he doesnt?


^^ best jet li 'american' film or the BEST jet li film?

 

[ManaByte]

Heard it was Jet Li's best movie.

Yes, it is supposed to be very good. Too bad it's going to bomb hardcore. You do not release any movie either a week before or a week after Star Wars. You just don't.

 

[Dead]

The DVD is out soon in R2, under the name "Danny the Dog"

 

[Dan]

Yes, it is supposed to be very good. Too bad it's going to bomb hardcore. You do not release any movie either a week before or a week after Star Wars. You just don't.

*rolls eyes*

C'mon man, you can't just spout bullshit continuously in the hope that people take it as truth. None of the films that opened the week before or after were significantly impacted by Attack of the Clones' presence. No movie released around AOTC or TPM unnaturally bombed. Unleashed is going to do just fine, and even if it bombs, it sure as hell won't have to do with ROTS.

 

[shuri]

does jet li even speak in the film? how can it suck if he doesnt?


^^ best jet li 'american' film or the BEST jet li film?

Best movie overall.

 

[karasu]

*rolls eyes*

C'mon man, you can't just spout bullshit continuously in the hope that people take it as truth. None of the films that opened the week before or after were significantly impacted by Attack of the Clones' presence. No movie released around AOTC or TPM unnaturally bombed. Unleashed is going to do just fine, and even if it bombs, it sure as hell won't have to do with ROTS.

This is a Jet li movie,which limits it's possible intake to like 50 mill, plus it isn't heavy on the fighting, and that might also hurt it. Opening a week before star wars is NOT a good idea. I mean come on. if we're talking about a movie with some heavy star power,sure. But we aren't.

best non chinese language film. Its not american.

 

[Shinobi]

Danny the dog is not a better title, sounds like a kids film.

Agreed.

Yes, it is supposed to be very good. Too bad it's going to bomb hardcore. You do not release any movie either a week before or a week after Star Wars. You just don't.

What's this based on?. Didn't Austin Powers open up with Phantom Menace and clean up? Not everyone is interested in stormtroopers and jedis and force bullshit.

That said, this isn't the best time to release this movie...I imagine it would've come out a month or two ago, but that Tony Jaa flick grabbed that spot for itself.

 

[shuri]

The fact that they released this movie months after it came out in europe is frigging retarded.

 

[Dan]

This is a Jet li movie,which limits it's possible intake to like 50 mill, plus it isn't heavy on the fighting, and that might also hurt it. Opening a week before star wars is NOT a good idea. I mean come on. if we're talking about a movie with some heavy star power,sure. But we aren't.

best non chinese language film. Its not american.

Read my damn post. All I said was that ROTS would not signficantly affect the box office of any of these films from the week before or after its release. Instead of pulling stuff out of my ass I checked the stats. No film unnaturally bombed because of a release near a Star Wars film. Fact. You can use your 'logic' all you want, but the stats from May 1999 and May 2002 speak for themselves. In fact, those time periods were more than healthy. This movie will perform based on its own merits, not because of Star Wars.

 

[karasu]

Read my damn post. All I said was that ROTS would not signficantly affect the box office of any of these films from the week before or after its release. Instead of pulling stuff out of my ass I checked the stats. No film unnaturally bombed because of a release near a Star Wars film. Fact. You can use your 'logic' all you want, but the stats from May 1999 and May 2002 speak for themselves. In fact, those time periods were more than healthy. This movie will perform based on its own merits, not because of Star Wars.

Damn, you're an angry little fellow aint ya? A movie surviving on it's own merits is a fairy tale. It all comes down to marketing and competition. Are you actually gonna argue that opening against a huge movie has no effect on a small movies box office take? That's just, odd. If you lookled at the stats you'd realize that no movie with a minor star that opened either a week before or a week after The Phantom Menace made more than 30 million dollars, including one of Jet's releases. Austin Powers and The Mummy did fine because they were huge budget franchises, your typical summer fare. If you look at May 2002 you'll see a similar story. Unleashed is not a big budget action packed blockbuster. Its a highly sentimental little tale with a few action scenes thrown in to please the usual fans. It was not made to compete with summer blockbusters. It would do far better if it were released against far weaker competition. The marketing department is making an idiotic decision by showing TV spots with kung fu and hip hop because it's painting the wrong picture of the film, and they're making a huge mistake by forcing it to compete with humongous franchises. That's it.

 

[bigfurb]

Oh well, his next film will RULE! Jet li as Huo Yuen Jia directed by Ronny Yu, choreographed by Yuen Wo Ping *drool*

Cool, so it's like a prequel to Fist of Legend then. I'm there.

 

[Dan]

It was not made to compete with summer blockbusters.

And yet that's what you're comparing it to. It's opening against Kicking & Screaming and Monster-In-Law. It's perfect counter-programming. This make-believe nonsense about people avoiding it because Star Wars is coming up is just bullshit. You can try and find holes in the facts all you want, but the truth is that no film opened in the immediate vicinity of TPM or AOTC did significantly worse than it would have without the presence of those films. Many films were received very well (ie. Notting Hill, Insomnia, etc) and the crap underperformed just as it would have amongst any other releases (ie. Instinct).

You mention Black Mask as some kind of horrible failure. It opened at less than 1000 screens and Jet Li is a far bigger star now than back when he was just the random Asian villain from Lethal Weapon 4 to most Americans.

There is no historical evidence that these Star Wars prequels magically deprive other quality films with decent distribution and well known actors (sorry, Jet Li is well known now, not to mention Morgan Freeman) of its appropriate box office take.

The marketing department is making an idiotic decision by showing TV spots with kung fu and hip hop because it's painting the wrong picture of the film, and they're making a huge mistake by forcing it to compete with humongous franchises.

No matter when this was released, this kind of marketing campaign would attract more viewers than one which promoted its dramatic side. The only "humongous franchise" this will be facing is Star Wars.

For a film with a modest ad campaign and a 1750 screen rollout, Unleashed is going to do just fine amongst films aimed at distinctly different audiences.

 

[karasu]

Dude, Jet li is known, but he is not a huge box office draw. I have nothing against Jet at all so Im not bashing him in the slightest. There is a HUGE difference between Notting hill, Insomnia, and Unleashed! Jet hasn't had a movie gross more than 40 something mill since the year 2000, partly because they always release his work too close to much higher profile projects. In fact the only one thats grossed over 40 mil was Hero, which opened next to nothing. But i'm not gonna argue it anymore, because at the end of the day I hope you're right. Though I know you're wrong.

 

[Dan]

I can't even figure out what you're arguing, so I'm not sure what you want me to be right about. You complain that the movie is being falsely represented in ads, that it can't compete with big blockbusters, and yet believe it's a movie that should be a huge hit. You seem to have some really high expectations while simultaneously thinking it lacks mainstream appeal. I'm simply saying that it will do an appropriate amount to this kind of film, not that it'll be comparable to raw box office takes of other films released around a Star Wars event.

I'd predict an opening of $12-15 million which would be very respectable for the genre and number of screens.

BTW, Lethal Weapon 4, Romeo Must Die, The One and Hero all did more than $40 million...

 

[karasu]

I can't even figure out what you're arguing, so I'm not sure what you want me to be right about. You complain that the movie is being falsely represented in ads, that it can't compete with big blockbusters, and yet believe it's a movie that should be a huge hit. You seem to have some really high expectations while simultaneously thinking it lacks mainstream appeal. I'm simply saying that it will do an appropriate amount to this kind of film, not that it'll be comparable to raw box office takes of other films released around a Star Wars event.

I'd predict an opening of $12-15 million which would be very respectable for the genre and number of screens.

BTW, Lethal Weapon 4, Romeo Must Die, The One and Hero all did more than $40 million...

The movie is falsely represented in ads, and that'll only lead to dissapointed viewers. If you go to the theater expecting an action movie, chances are that you aren't gonna be too happy when you get a fairy tale. The TV spots are ridiculous. The rap music makes it seem like another CT2G/RMD nightmare, but it's nothing like them. Nowhere did I say that I believe it should be a huge hit, I just think it desrves a more strategically sound release than it's getting. It's as clear as day that opening next to a huge movie has an effect on a films box office pull. If that's true of every other movie released next to a big movie, I have no idea how you can argue it's not true for Unleashed. Unleashed has about five days to make some cash, after that it'll be buried under mountains of hype and nerds thereby fighting an uphill battle. Big ass movies overshadow small movies and cut into their profits. Plain and simple. That's why moving dramas don't tend to open next to boom thwack and pow.

Plus, I said that only one of Jet's movies grossed more than 40 mil or so since the year 2000, that's after LW4 and it's the year RMD was released. I already mentioned Hero because it didn't have any competition(even though it's release was a nightmare). But yeah,The One managed to make 43 mil somehow. I forgot about that, but 43 million or not, it was a feckin bomb. :lol