WhereAreMahDragonz
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No. The original Reek was killed by Theon and his Ironborn. Reek was a childhood friend of Ramsay's, so he uses Theon to replace him.
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No. The original Reek was killed by Theon and his Ironborn. Reek was a childhood friend of Ramsay's, so he uses Theon to replace him.
In the books I visualized him the same way, but I also do think it's not really as possible to have the same effect as, ya know, you actually can SEE who Reek is.
Anyway. I haven't really been part of the discussion re: this series in a while, but uh, how's that next book coming? :/
KuwabaraTheMan
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Original Reek was killed by Rodrik, not the Ironborn. Rodrik went off to take Ramsay down after everything Ramsay did with Lady Hornwood, and then he did a switcheroo so they killed Reek instead of him.
To be fair, the physical transformation is after several books/years of time, whereas we are seeing everything transpire in "real time" on the show without that gap without the character. The Reek Theon we are introduced to in the book wouldn't be on the show for another season or two.
PHOENIXZERO
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Was it years? How much time took place over the events of ASoS?
More like episode six or seven given we know what happens in episode eight and that episode nine takes place entirely at the Wall.
More like episode six or seven given we know what happens in episode eight and that episode nine takes place entirely at the Wall.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I guess I don't recall, I'm probably conflating the release schedule with passage of time in the story a bit. But the show Theon/Reek still hasn't "caught up" to the Reek we are introduced to in DWD in any case.
That conversation between Cersei and Oberyn:
Every line was a straight burn.
I loved that scene. Also his veiled threat about Cersei's daughter in Dorne. Great dialogue.
rocketskates
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Unsullied thread: Barn saw dragons, Kaylee C must be coming to Kings Landing now!
Little do they know.....little do they know.
This is one time I feel bad for them.
Little do they know.....little do they know.
This is one time I feel bad for them.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Oh, I'm sure she will, eventually. God only knows when it will happen, though.
DrForester
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Isn't it more likely that Bran was seeing the past?
Steelyuhas
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I feel like the chances of Dragons being anywhere near Kings Landing in the future are bound to be in the dead of winter, yeah I think the past is more likely.
Laurentius
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Yeah, IIRC weirwood.net can only see into the past.
I also don't think Weirwood.net does aerial shots, so I wouldn't read much into it.
exactly. It could not be any more obvious.
What new subplots? They even included shit the books mentioned but never went anywhere with
DrForester
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...curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the Weirwood Tree as it fell was "Oh no, not again".
Feel bad for all of us...
Steelyuhas
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Xisiqomelir
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This thread outpages the other thread, literacy prevails!
Atraveller
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Time to re-read!Ah, you're right. It's been a while since I read it
cartoon_soldier
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Gleeson should get an emmy nomination for this episode.
He looks like a dirty and slightly thinner Theon. I was expecting the transformation to be closer to the book as the shock of seeing Theon that way would have really hit the show only audience.
Atraveller
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I prefer seeing the dragons on the Wall, a dragons Vs Others fight would be something.
I don't think they could have gone that far without it seeming unrealistic. Stuff like the graying hair wouldn't have really worked on TV. And the missing teeth and fingers were probably too difficult to do convincingly. I guess they could've scarred his face up more, but that's about it.
I hope they don't hold back with Lady Stoneheart.
Well Ramsay actually was Reek for a bit. He swapped clothes with the real Reek and Rodrik Cassel captured Reek thinking it was Ramsay and killed him (Theon did not kill the original Reek). Meanwhile, Ramsay is imprisoned as Reek when Theon takes Winterfell so Theon is introduced to Ramsay under the impression he is Reek. Then Theon eventually sets him free when he claims he can bring men to his cause. That's when he gets his Bolton men to sneakily take out Rodrik and the northerners who are besieging Winterfell. Then Ramsay enters Winterfell and reveals his true identity to Theon before capturing him. So there have been three people that have gone by the name of Reek. Also, one other thing I forgot was that it was Ramsay's idea to pass off the kids as Bran and Rickon.
Edit: Whoops. Missed the part where Kuwabara answered this. My bad!
PHOENIXZERO
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Yeah, I kind of wish we didn't get those scenes last season and left Theon off-screen as unrealistic as that might've been for TV.
Yeah, the rivalry is def played up in the show. Its more of an indirect thing where both are rolling out plans to reshape the Kingdom. I wonder if they even know what one another is truly up to.
Little Finger's motivations seem easier to read. He's a lord of "low birth" looking to become a super power in the kingdom. Varys is harder to gauge. He wants to put Aegon on the throne but I can't help but feel theres some other motivation there. The theory about Varys being a Blackfyre Targ makes the most sense to me so far.
Oberyn's going to have a conversation with Tommen next week.
"You know, my seester was raped and mardered. By the Mountain."
"How can a mountain murder someone?"
"You're a bastard. Would you like to have sex with my paramour?"
"I'm...calling my mother."
"You're not a golden lion."
"You know, my seester was raped and mardered. By the Mountain."
"How can a mountain murder someone?"
"You're a bastard. Would you like to have sex with my paramour?"
"I'm...calling my mother."
"You're not a golden lion."
HeavenlyStriker
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thanks for this.
doesn't look like the usual weirwood face that's normally shown. way too much detail. actually think it may be the first glimpse of bloodraven. or at least that's how i envisioned him to look like as described in the book.
as the link says. children of the forest. most likely "leaf".
coldhands' horse. will they show him? fuck. i will riot if they cut him dangnamnit. i want to see him fend off groups of walkers/wrights/northmen to show the audience how fuck awesome he truly is.
don't know what the fuck this is. obsidian blade crashing into pieces reflecting a blue eyes white walker?
weirwood treenet may only see into the past in the books. but who knows what these bran visions in the show actually trying to tell us.
Moff
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as the link says. children of the forest. most likely "leaf".
istnt that the exact kid from the very first episode?
I always thought that was a wight, but was that already a child of the forest?
edit: this one
Morrigan Stark
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Wha? Isn't that just the wight from the prologue/first episode in S1?
as the link says. children of the forest. most likely "leaf".
smokeandmirrors
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He absolutely should. It's a shame he doesn't want to continue acting, I feel like he could do great things.
Mucho respect for him though.
elk smelk
fucking dragons and snowy sept? it's basically exactly what i remember from bran's visions
HeavenlyStriker
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oh yeah. it was an elk. delicious one at that.
fuuck. no chance of coldhand appearance then.
yeah. probably that kid from the 1st episode.
i'm ass at deciphering shit.
fuuck. no chance of coldhand appearance then.
yeah. probably that kid from the 1st episode.
i'm ass at deciphering shit.
To be honest though, the detail of it being an undead elk rather than an undead horse probably wouldn't matter to the show. So if we did see Coldhands I wouldn't be surprised if they left out that detail. But I don't think we will since it was hinted at being cut out of the show.
It's not "probably" the kid from the first episode. It is the exact same footage. Same with the undead horse from season two.
What's going on with Shae? I wonder if they're softening the eventual betrayal via Tyrion's little charade or there's going to be more to it before we find her in the bed. Maybe there are new scenes because they want to reinforce that bond and don't count on the tv audience recalling the original story about Tyrion's first wife, so when he finally gets around to do the deed the reaction will be something like, "sure that was a dick move, but he's gonna kill him over that?"
If it's Coldhands then he's only there as a nod to readers, the tv fans have no idea who that is. And if that's so, I bet a majority of fans of the books aren't like me in that I forgot completely if it was a horse, elk, or baby giraffe. So yea, same footage.
FootballFan
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On a re-watch it feels as though Cersei's reaction is quite mild. Wanted more screaming, tears and what not.
Nitpicking...I know. But still.
I agree. I was kinda hoping they would extend his death with people trying to unblock his throat, Cersei going crazy and then screaming uncontrollably the moment he dies with Tywin coldly going "He's dead, Jim". THEN we see her rage against Tyrion and Sansa.
HeavenlyStriker
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holy shit. i'm callin out this stealth reader again.
apparently this stealth wiki reader only read littlefinger's section and neglect the information regarding the red viper. poison is his crutch. my friend.
i'm awaiting the episode littlefinger reveals himself and his motives and this dude will go. I KNEW. I FUCKING KNEW IT. I'M SO SEEEEMART. HAHAHA
don't kid yourself. kiddo.
and cersei's reaction to joff's death in the show was...not very good. terribly disappointing actually.
ok. so this dude knows littlefinger's involvement and also the fact that sansa will be hidden in the vale under a different alias. of course he won't go into much details yet.Or just have Margaery marry Tommen who is next in line because that would make the Tyrells look even better to the people while giving Margaery a lot of power in a much safer setting since Tommen doesn't seem to be a madman...at least yet...
But I keep going back to Littlefinger being involved though due to Sansa being helped to flee the city. I posted about it a few times explaining his motives and his goals, and it just makes sense to me. Repaying Joffrey for Catelyn's death among other things, including Ros's death, but it also gives him Sansa who he wanted in the past since she can be used in the North while also being the daughter of his beloved Catelyn. Maybe he'll keep her hidden a while before making his own moves.
So many people have something to gain with this move and this just seems like something Littlefinger would do. Oberyn definitely wouldn't do something like this since he seems very vocal about his hatred for the Lannisters and wants to kill them himself and poison is seen as being very cowardly and lacking any honor. Who else would use the drunk guy as a patsy to cover his/her tracks and want Sansa to escape as well?
I also try to look at it from a story-telling perspective since Littlefinger has gone missing since going to The Vale. He was a major character in the past and I don't see him going away anytime soon, so what better way to bring him back than this? Maybe Olenna and LF teamed up for this joyous occasion!
apparently this stealth wiki reader only read littlefinger's section and neglect the information regarding the red viper. poison is his crutch. my friend.
i'm awaiting the episode littlefinger reveals himself and his motives and this dude will go. I KNEW. I FUCKING KNEW IT. I'M SO SEEEEMART. HAHAHA
don't kid yourself. kiddo.
and cersei's reaction to joff's death in the show was...not very good. terribly disappointing actually.
Morrigan Stark
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Agreed, this post is highly suspicious. PM Cornballer about it maybe?
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