Only Cliffhanger besides LSH that would be epic, is for the Show to show why Bran needed to find the Three Eye Raven. To show whatever this power is supposed to be for, if it's to save the world at some point. Would harken back to the Dragon's in S1, a world changing event.
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Please no.
SaintGalgo
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I wouldn't mind the Stoneheart reveal being moved to S5. I just don't want them to cut it altogether.
They haven't shown Coldhands, the Nightfort door, the proper House of the Undying and Jon warging. I know that those might not be needed for the story so far, but I think D&D want to tone down the supernatural elements of the books on the show, and that sucks.
They haven't shown Coldhands, the Nightfort door, the proper House of the Undying and Jon warging. I know that those might not be needed for the story so far, but I think D&D want to tone down the supernatural elements of the books on the show, and that sucks.
Moff
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really? they wont be talking about what bran does at bloodravens and the children of the forest?
they wont be talking about where tyrion might go after he killed his dad?
they wont be talking about where that coin might arya lead to?
well obviously its just me, but I think all of these qualify for much better cliffhangers and are much more integral to the story than stoneheart. which was in my opinion more a WTF moment than a cliffhanger, because it was obvious what she is doing there and I honestly didnt wonder for even a second what she might be up to.
Tyrion killing Tywin & Shae and then leaving Westeros, Stannis arriving at the wall, Arya leaving Braavos and Dany locking up the dragons are good points to stop the season on. There's plenty to speculate. Where does Tyrion go from here? What will Tywin's death mean to the realm & the Lannisters? Stannis arrives at the wall, what will he do next? Arya will become a Faceless Man like Syrio & Jaqen! OMG AWESOME! How will the dragons being locked up affect Dany's rule?
It'd be a pretty good season finale even without Stoneheart, though I agree that Stoneheart would really bump up the hype for the next season.
ToyMachine228
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With D&D Saying S4E10 is the best finale they've done yet and they feel nervous about one upping it, I would definitely expect Lady Stoneheart to be introduced. Many of the character's have major moments coming next episode (With the largest being the death of Tywin), but that on top of Lady Stoneheart would be a fucking mind blowing finale that will have everyone looking forward to next season and will get people's blood going that finally, things are going in the "good guys'" favor.
There's a difference between Stoneheart and all those other things though. She's not just a cool visual with magic, she's an entire storyline. Unless they're just going to cut all future plot in the Riverlands, or come up with some reason why Beric is now leading the Brotherhood in a radical anti-Frey direction, she seems kind of necessary.
The difference here being they already introduced Beric Dondarrion, BWB and Thoros as well as his resurrection powers which is pretty integral for Stoneheart's resurrection.
SaintGalgo
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Well, yeah, you're right. But there's no guarantee that they will keep that storyline on the show.
The only reason I can think of that they might leave SH until next season is if they think they're running low on big TV moments with the Feast/Dance material. If nothing else I'd like them to give Storm of Swords the send off it deserves though and the epilogue could be condensed into a sub-5 minute scene pretty easily.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Considering how the recap doesn't even bring up the Brotherhood or Thoros or Beric, yet they have no problem spoiling Stannis, I'm starting to think Stoneheart is not there.
Stoneheart just works so well at the end of ASoS because its out of left field more or less and its a fantastic "OH SHIT!" sort of moment to end the book and it would work exactly the same way to end the TV season. Her introduction feels like its a game changing moment, not unlike Dany's dragons being born or seeing all the Wights and Others gathering at the Fist of the First Men to end season 2.
Moving Stoneheart to just some random episode in season 5 greatly diminishes her impact, IMO. Her appearance is a great season ending cliffhanger for people to chew on in the off season, not so much if its just amongst the course of another 10 episode season.
Then again, the very first chapter of the first book has zombies in it. So its not exactly unheard of.
Exactly. I have no clue where GRRM is going but zombies are there right from the onset of the series. Its just that in addition to Ice Zombies, you've got Fire Zombies with Stoneheart and Science Zombies with Robert Strong (unless Qyburn is invoking R'hllor or something).
Stoneheart just works so well at the end of ASoS because its out of left field more or less and its a fantastic "OH SHIT!" sort of moment to end the book and it would work exactly the same way to end the TV season. Her introduction feels like its a game changing moment, not unlike Dany's dragons being born or seeing all the Wights and Others gathering at the Fist of the First Men to end season 2.
Moving Stoneheart to just some random episode in season 5 greatly diminishes her impact, IMO. Her appearance is a great season ending cliffhanger for people to chew on in the off season, not so much if its just amongst the course of another 10 episode season.
Then again, the very first chapter of the first book has zombies in it. So its not exactly unheard of.
Exactly. I have no clue where GRRM is going but zombies are there right from the onset of the series. Its just that in addition to Ice Zombies, you've got Fire Zombies with Stoneheart and Science Zombies with Robert Strong (unless Qyburn is invoking R'hllor or something).
elrechazado
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Because most people hate affc and large parts of adwd.
Most people of course means wrong people. At least with respect to affc.
Steelyuhas
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80/20 the lady of stone is in imo
New thread will be up in a couple of hours, maybe less depending on when I leave the office. I'll link it here of course.
New thread will be up in a couple of hours, maybe less depending on when I leave the office. I'll link it here of course.
Jon being chosen as Lord Commander might be pushed to Season 5. I'd say it definitely is if the episode wasn't 66 minutes long, but with it being that long, I guess they could somehow cram it in there somewhere (though that would mean there'd be absolutely no build-up to it, it just happens). That would be a pretty big moment. End the season in a high note with Stannis driving the wildlings away and celebration ensues. Then begin Season 5 with Jon being given the new role of being the Lord Commander by the end of the episode with some build-up and play that out through the season.
I guess they could also kill Balon Greyjoy, finally, kickstarting the rest of the Ironborn storyline.
The final track off the soundtrack sounds like an appropriate song for Stoneheart to be revealed to. Starts off kind of mysterious, and then builds up dramatically before moving right into what sounds like the credits music. Short and quick, which is what the Stoneheart reveal needs to be, really. All they really have to do is show that she's back.
Cornballer
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A few misc items from today:
- Onion A|V Club article: The violent wonderland of Game Of Thrones
- Making Game of Thrones: Send a GOT-Themed Father's Day E-Card
- Game of Thrones Season 4: Happy Father's Day (youtube)
- Hodor from Game of Thrones on Family Feud (Jimmy Kimmel clip, youtube)
- Onion A|V Club article: The violent wonderland of Game Of Thrones
- Making Game of Thrones: Send a GOT-Themed Father's Day E-Card
- Game of Thrones Season 4: Happy Father's Day (youtube)
- Hodor from Game of Thrones on Family Feud (Jimmy Kimmel clip, youtube)
lol honestly, it might just be me being so desperate to see it.
I'm being very
But I do think this track makes much much more sense than Mhysa did (and I never once believed they'd show SH last season). It's very obviously for the final scene before the credits, and there's only ~30 seconds before the "credits" portion of the track begins, meaning it could be for a very, very short scene, which the SH reveal would/could be.
Are you kidding me? Jack Gleeson was amazing
elrechazado
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Nobody in the show captured their book character for me better than him, and not even close.
I rather have a proper reveal instead of a rushed one.
PhoenixDark
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The soundtrack doesn't guarantee how things will go. Remember last season where this was the final track on the soundtrack?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM60cVXk1us
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM60cVXk1us
Started a rewatch of the season and forgot the very first scene was the melting of Ice. I remember watching a making of video and D&D waxing rather poetic on the symbolism behind why they choose that as the first scene of the season.
How appropriate would Cat's return at the end be to counter that symbolism? It's almost too easy.
How appropriate would Cat's return at the end be to counter that symbolism? It's almost too easy.
RatskyWatsky
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I think they'll save this for the season 5 premiere. That way the Greyjoys will be fresh in everyone's minds for the new season.
Rumor's going about that Myrcella has been recast. Supposedly she will now be played by a young British actress by the name of Nell Tiger Free. Here is a photo:
That's a shame. The last actress seemed talented and super enthusiastic.
Is there a right way to warn the other thread not to watch the recap before the episode? You can piece together the whole episode just from the stupid recap this time. It's not just Stannis. They also show Jaqen H'quar giving her the coin which makes it 100% clear she'll use it this episode. It shows Arya/Hound and Brienne/Pod both heading towards the same place.
toddhunter
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I like Shae.
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Her early stuff was better
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A More Normal Bird
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Hahahahaha.
Before the season started I was looking forward to having the Stoneheart reveal in the finale but now that we are here I wouldn't mind if they waited until next season as long as they have a better build up to it.
If they wait until next season then maybe they can can sprinkle a few lines of dialogue throughout the series with characters discussing the whereabouts of the brotherhood without banners and rumours of their new leader, building up to Stoneheart's identity being revealed in season 5 finale.
If they wait until next season then maybe they can can sprinkle a few lines of dialogue throughout the series with characters discussing the whereabouts of the brotherhood without banners and rumours of their new leader, building up to Stoneheart's identity being revealed in season 5 finale.
Tyrion would probably share that opinion.
m_shortpants
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Wait...they spoiled Stannis in the recap?
-Pyromaniac-
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there's a shot of melisandre saying they need to go to the north to stannis where the real fight is at.
Steelyuhas
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