StopMakingSense
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Season 7 Dany storyline will just be her, Tyrion, Missandei, Greyworm, and Varys talking in a room on the ship. It will be like we never actually left Mereen.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6
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Moff
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I can't wait to hear Dany's favourite joke
StopMakingSense
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edit: huh, weird.
Exactly.
Many people were puzzled as to why Varys was again with Dany on the ship, and again some people are rambling about teleporting characters, etc., but the thing is that the last scene is not meant to be Dany just departing from Mereen, but as likely as not they've been in open sea for a while and they are close to Westeros. This is proved by the fact that there are ships with the Martell banner, so it means that they have already joined them (and Varys was with them, as we've seen before).
The show did a poor job explaining this part and it did look like Varys had just teleported, but it's not the case.
The problem with the Varys scenes in this episode is their structuring:
1. Varys is in Westeros.
2. Varys is on a ship on his way to Westeros.
These both happen within the space of 20 minutes, within the same episode. Of course, this is also ignoring the fact that we've never seen Varys and Dany together before now, and we don't even know if Dany had been aware of Varys' existence before he's randomly standing 2 feet behind her. It's clumsy, but luckily a minor concern in what is otherwise an amazing episode.
1. Varys is in Westeros.
2. Varys is on a ship on his way to Westeros.
These both happen within the space of 20 minutes, within the same episode. Of course, this is also ignoring the fact that we've never seen Varys and Dany together before now, and we don't even know if Dany had been aware of Varys' existence before he's randomly standing 2 feet behind her. It's clumsy, but luckily a minor concern in what is otherwise an amazing episode.
Crap, I didn't even realize that but you're probably right.
I thought Jamie's arrival in KL was far more abrupt btw.
The shows portrayal of time and distance has been crap since episode one. Some distances are covered within ten minutes, while some storylines take place in a relatively small area and cover multiple episodes.
Comfort Jones
Banned
Season 4 was the peak for me, good character moments and really crazy set pieces. Was so excited going into 5 and then Dorne happened.
Oh.
Oh...
I think people just don't expect single episodes to cover the massive amount of time the S6 finale did, and since the show doesn't do "1 month later" captions and stuff like that there's no way to really know.
Between the Sept getting blown up and the final shot it must have been at least two months. When we come back in S7 Jon will have been managing things at Winterfell for a while, Melisandre will be who knows where, The Hound will have been traveling with the BwB for a while, Arya might have killed a few more people off her list, etc.
There's plenty of cinematic tricks that could be used in scene transitions to let the audience know that we're now moving in time and/or across great distances. But the thing is, with a show like GoT that jumps around constantly, that'd likely just get annoying and tiresome real fast.
What absolutely jars me is how seemingly no one was preparing for winter in a universe where winters can reportedly last as long as a generation. The Blackfish is busy bragging about being able to withstand a 2-3 year siege when a winter could easily be a decade or more like it is something that deserves a pat on the back. How does Dany expect to last more than a year in Westeros when she has to feed several hundred thousand people, tens of thousands of horses, and 3 dragons? She's literally committing the "never invade Russia in the winter" trope to the t, and no one seemingly has thought to mention there might be problem with mass starvation somewhere along the road.
Has there even been one peasant barn or silo on screen in 6 seasons? You would think with the impending massive starvation that is likely, someone out there would be playing the role of biblical Davis and storing up everything into centralized stores so everyone doesn't die in the first year of winter.
As it is, it seems like there's barely enough even in the summer, which is ridiculous. I'd move to Essos first thing if I had enough coin to, Westeros seems like it's going to be a desolate wasteland in no time flat.
I think it wouldve added a lot; same with locations. For example in Sam's story line; something like 'Old Town, 2 months after leaving the Tarly estate' or just general things like "Meanwhile in ..." or "Two weeks earlier" or like you said,, 'One month later'. It shouldnt preface every scene but only when there is a clear passage of time.
At least in the previous seasons they tried to work in some references in the dialogue to the time it takes to get to things, like Robert stating that they've been on the road for months and other characters saying stuff like "we've been in King's Landing for a few weeks". Now characters just show up on other sides of the realm without any sense of time passing.
They're going to do a switcheroo on us. The White Walkers are defeated next season and the last season will deal with the mass starvation resulting from the previous wars and the negligence of the rulers.
Yeah, and it wasn't just that. Stannis plot was terrible, Sansa plot wasn't much better, etc. Hardhome was the only really standout episode, Season 6 was much better.
The problem isn't that they jump in time in that one contained storyline.
It's the fact that they intermingle a ton of storylines that all appear to travel in different speeds and independently from each other.
Again, Brienne dissapears completely for several episodes, despite travelling a way shorter distance than Varys travels twice in a single episode.
If a timejump occured, then why does it only jump ahead in this one contained storyline and not in all the others. There has been no reason to suspect each storyline is taking place at different times, given that news of the deaths at King's Landing reached the Martell's and had the Queen of Thorns travel to Dorne with Varys, so we know the King's Landing storyline is synced with the Dany storyline and one would assume that is the case for all the storylines.
Time jumps are fine, but you can't jump ahead for one character and then pretend time is moving at regular speeds for all the others when they're all interacting/reacting to each other. That makes that shit stand out.
It's the fact that they intermingle a ton of storylines that all appear to travel in different speeds and independently from each other.
Again, Brienne dissapears completely for several episodes, despite travelling a way shorter distance than Varys travels twice in a single episode.
If a timejump occured, then why does it only jump ahead in this one contained storyline and not in all the others. There has been no reason to suspect each storyline is taking place at different times, given that news of the deaths at King's Landing reached the Martell's and had the Queen of Thorns travel to Dorne with Varys, so we know the King's Landing storyline is synced with the Dany storyline and one would assume that is the case for all the storylines.
Time jumps are fine, but you can't jump ahead for one character and then pretend time is moving at regular speeds for all the others when they're all interacting/reacting to each other. That makes that shit stand out.
Guys there's no goddamn teleporting going on.
It's simply that the stories are not in strict chronological order between storylines - If Arya's is going forward at one month per segment, and Jon's going forward at one week per segment, at some point a storyline will timeskip to catch up.
And with how screentime is at a huge premium here, advocating (really expensive) travel sequences...
Also, Olenna and Varys looked like it'd been weeks since the respective messes. Plus months to assemble and board the fleet.
also...
Sansa, Queen in the north
Daenerys, Queen of too many fucking titles
Olenna, Queen of Thorns
Cersei, Queen of also too many fucking titles
Yara, Queen of the Ironborn
War of the five queens iinc?
It's simply that the stories are not in strict chronological order between storylines - If Arya's is going forward at one month per segment, and Jon's going forward at one week per segment, at some point a storyline will timeskip to catch up.
And with how screentime is at a huge premium here, advocating (really expensive) travel sequences...
Also, Olenna and Varys looked like it'd been weeks since the respective messes. Plus months to assemble and board the fleet.
also...
Sansa, Queen in the north
Daenerys, Queen of too many fucking titles
Olenna, Queen of Thorns
Cersei, Queen of also too many fucking titles
Yara, Queen of the Ironborn
War of the five queens iinc?
ah, according to Brian Cogman:
http://winteriscoming.net/2016/06/27/how-did-varys-travel-between-dorne-and-meereen-so-quickly/
but still, things have been in turbo-mode this season.
http://winteriscoming.net/2016/06/27/how-did-varys-travel-between-dorne-and-meereen-so-quickly/
but still, things have been in turbo-mode this season.
My Predictions for the rest of the TV series:
Dany gonna land at Storms End and meet up with the Martell and Dornish forces with aim to take Dragonstone.
Euron is going to sack Lannisport and Old Town with aim to please Dany. Sam will flee the pillaging and destruction of the great library into Dany's custody and warn her about the White Walkers. Dany's Red Priestess will pick his brain. He will give her the Tarly ancestral sword Heartsbane as a gift, will become an adviser. At some point his father will have to kneel before him when her army takes Horn Hill.
Jon Snow will unite/reclaim the North all the way down through the Riverlands. Install the Wildlings as masters of the Twins - giving them them freedom and power that the Freys enjoyed so much.
Arya will meet up with Sandor, Melisandre, Brienne, and the Brotherhood with aim to get into the Red Keep and kill Cersei. Sandor wants to kill his brother. Brienne wants to see Jaime again and goes to support Arya.
With news of everything happening in the south, Littlefinger realizes his dream of sitting on the iron throne is impossible, at the Eyre he tries to poison Sansa against Jon to take control of the North and tries to take Sansa as his bride. She plays into his hands and makes him feel like he's won, and then she gives some kind of monologue like - you'll never realize your dreams, you will never have me. And he will say "you're mistaken, if I can't have the iron throne I'll have you" and try to command some of the Vale's men to detain her. But she has control of them (telling them he killed the lady of the vale) and stabs him through the stomach twisting the knife, as revenge for selling her off to the Boltons - she then pushes him through the moon door. Robin congratulates her on killing the man who killed his father, he is older, pretty handsome and not messed up. Ugly duckling turned into a swan, has big crush on Sansa.
Dany and Jon meet to negotiate a peaceful unification. Jon protests but reluctantly accepts a marriage proposal to unite the kingdoms in peace as he holds the most territory next to her, she will help him fight the Night's King - but demands that they take King's landing first. Euron interrupts and wants to give her to demand her hand in marriage his fleet and the riches sacked from Lannisport and Old Town. Dany says she already has Ironborn ships and has no use for his, she is repulsed by him and his destruction of Old Town - as reported by Samwell. Yara pisses him off and he demands combat, they fight - and as Yara is about to lose Theon saves her by sacrificing himself. Yara plants an axe straight up Euron's junk and jams a knife through his eye and into his brain.
Bran will pass through the wall, but in doing so allow's the Night's King to break through the Wall's magical wards, the Wall falls. Bran fucks up part 4.
Jon and Dany's forces will surround King's Landing and break into the city.
Cersei will be pushed into a corner and lose what little sanity she has left. She will execute a plan to blow up King's Landing with wildfyre. (she will have Qyburn manufacture an ungodly amount with the aim to completely obliterate the city and everything 5 miles around from it)
Revolted by her plan being even worse than the Mad King's, Jaime will kill Qyburn and stab Cersei through the heart in the throne room - a perfect mirror of the last time he killed the ruler of the seven kingdoms. Her dying words will be "the prophecy said little brother, I thought it would be Tyrion - not you, never you. I'll see our children now". He will then say he's got nothing to live for and then try to commit sudoku until Brienne saves him. During this time Arya and Sandor fight the Mountain, he will tell her to leave but recalling Syrio Forel's fate she stays and help Sandor kill him. Tyrion will be reunited with his brother. Everyone gathers in the iron throne room.
Bran will be in Winterfell, the creation of his ancestor and namesake Bran the Builder. The most unremarkable structure built by him, Bran the Builder made it so because it is warded with intensely powerful magic bound in blood magic to Stark blood "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell". So strong that even the Night's King cannot break through it. Bran uses Winterfell as a refuge for much of the north. Bran restores the speaking powers of the ravens to the realm to deliver a warning that the Night's King is coming for them. That or do his astral projection shit to warn everyone of the impending army. Pissed off that he can't kill the Three Eyed Raven, the Night's King unleashes his full power as the King of Winter - he and his army sweep over the land like some creepy Nazghul shit at breakneck speed south towards King's Landing to kill Jon.
The army of the dead hits King's Landing like a brutal avalanche, destroying the city walls and messing up the Red Keep. Last episode of the series will be a massive battle all over King's Landing. Dany will dragon ride and try to keep most of the forces at bay, she has no use for the greatsword Heartsbane and gives it to Jon. Brienne and Jaime use the swords forged from Ned's valyrian sword Ice to keep the undead out of the throne room, Arya and Sandor collect wildfyre to block the wights from entry to the passages to the throne room. Tyrion commands the city watch to collect the stockpiled wildfyre to create a perimeter of impenetrable fire outside of the Red Keep. Jon will fight the Night's King in front of the Iron Throne. Longclaw will be broken by Other magic somehow. In a dire moment he pulls Heartsbane from its sheath and it bursts into flame, it is Fire, the Red Sword of Heroes from Prophecy (a two handed Valyrian steel greatsword like Ned Stark's Ice - its twin sword). Night's King is taken off guard by its power, Jon obliterates NK's sword and cuts off the Night King's arm - Night's King totally shitty his pants. Jon then plunges it through the Night King's chest, it's magical power fills him, destroying the dragon glass that created him and he explodes. His army lacking the magical power to hold their form all burst into flame and turn to cinders.
Winter subsides slowly. Dany and Jon (whose birth name was Aemon, revealed by Bran through a vision) rule the Seven Kingdoms as King and Queen. Bran and Meera become Warden and Wardeness of the North at Winterfell (marries Meera). Robin is Warden of the East at the Eyrie (Sansa marries him, becomes Wardeness, he grows up quite a bit and he ends up being the least shitty guy she's come across - super unlikely actually?). Yara is the Wardeness of the West at Casterly Rock - turns Lannisport into the biggest trade destination in the world becomes ultra rich trader, buries Theon in a nice place. Olenna Tyrell is Wardeness of the South in Highgarden. Tyrion becomes Hand the King and Queen, he catches the eye of the middle sandsnake daughter - she reminds him of Shae. Ser Davos is given Storm's End, as the Baratheon bloodline was destroyed. Jaime and Brienne retire to Tarth. Arya is named First Sword of Westeros. Sandor is made Captain of the city watch. Jorah Fedorah survives and is named captain of the Queensguard. Dario, who gives a shit about him he rules the east or dies or some shit. Greyworm and Missandei retire and live together. Bronn marries the youngest daughter of Oberyn and moves to Sunspear. Samwell Tarly becomes the Grandmaester and lives happily with his wife and kid. Varys stays the master of Whispers, but it given a more official title in thanks. The wall melts and turns into a great lake, all of the land north of the wall and in the gift becomes the most fertile land in all the realm. The Wildlings are asked settle this land freely and Tormund is named Warden of the Great Gift - saddened that Brienne picked the pretty boy, Obara catches his eye and they hit it off. Magic returns to the realm in a big way. The rest of the winter snows melt and turns the Seven Kingdoms into a fertile paradise. A spring comes that seems undending. The end.
To me - this all seems like the most straightforward/simple version of the story given the streamlined spirit of the tv show - definitely more "happily ever after" than what we'll actually get, but I still wonder how much of this will be accurate. Congrats to anyone who read all of that.
Dany gonna land at Storms End and meet up with the Martell and Dornish forces with aim to take Dragonstone.
Euron is going to sack Lannisport and Old Town with aim to please Dany. Sam will flee the pillaging and destruction of the great library into Dany's custody and warn her about the White Walkers. Dany's Red Priestess will pick his brain. He will give her the Tarly ancestral sword Heartsbane as a gift, will become an adviser. At some point his father will have to kneel before him when her army takes Horn Hill.
Jon Snow will unite/reclaim the North all the way down through the Riverlands. Install the Wildlings as masters of the Twins - giving them them freedom and power that the Freys enjoyed so much.
Arya will meet up with Sandor, Melisandre, Brienne, and the Brotherhood with aim to get into the Red Keep and kill Cersei. Sandor wants to kill his brother. Brienne wants to see Jaime again and goes to support Arya.
With news of everything happening in the south, Littlefinger realizes his dream of sitting on the iron throne is impossible, at the Eyre he tries to poison Sansa against Jon to take control of the North and tries to take Sansa as his bride. She plays into his hands and makes him feel like he's won, and then she gives some kind of monologue like - you'll never realize your dreams, you will never have me. And he will say "you're mistaken, if I can't have the iron throne I'll have you" and try to command some of the Vale's men to detain her. But she has control of them (telling them he killed the lady of the vale) and stabs him through the stomach twisting the knife, as revenge for selling her off to the Boltons - she then pushes him through the moon door. Robin congratulates her on killing the man who killed his father, he is older, pretty handsome and not messed up. Ugly duckling turned into a swan, has big crush on Sansa.
Dany and Jon meet to negotiate a peaceful unification. Jon protests but reluctantly accepts a marriage proposal to unite the kingdoms in peace as he holds the most territory next to her, she will help him fight the Night's King - but demands that they take King's landing first. Euron interrupts and wants to give her to demand her hand in marriage his fleet and the riches sacked from Lannisport and Old Town. Dany says she already has Ironborn ships and has no use for his, she is repulsed by him and his destruction of Old Town - as reported by Samwell. Yara pisses him off and he demands combat, they fight - and as Yara is about to lose Theon saves her by sacrificing himself. Yara plants an axe straight up Euron's junk and jams a knife through his eye and into his brain.
Bran will pass through the wall, but in doing so allow's the Night's King to break through the Wall's magical wards, the Wall falls. Bran fucks up part 4.
Jon and Dany's forces will surround King's Landing and break into the city.
Cersei will be pushed into a corner and lose what little sanity she has left. She will execute a plan to blow up King's Landing with wildfyre. (she will have Qyburn manufacture an ungodly amount with the aim to completely obliterate the city and everything 5 miles around from it)
Revolted by her plan being even worse than the Mad King's, Jaime will kill Qyburn and stab Cersei through the heart in the throne room - a perfect mirror of the last time he killed the ruler of the seven kingdoms. Her dying words will be "the prophecy said little brother, I thought it would be Tyrion - not you, never you. I'll see our children now". He will then say he's got nothing to live for and then try to commit sudoku until Brienne saves him. During this time Arya and Sandor fight the Mountain, he will tell her to leave but recalling Syrio Forel's fate she stays and help Sandor kill him. Tyrion will be reunited with his brother. Everyone gathers in the iron throne room.
Bran will be in Winterfell, the creation of his ancestor and namesake Bran the Builder. The most unremarkable structure built by him, Bran the Builder made it so because it is warded with intensely powerful magic bound in blood magic to Stark blood "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell". So strong that even the Night's King cannot break through it. Bran uses Winterfell as a refuge for much of the north. Bran restores the speaking powers of the ravens to the realm to deliver a warning that the Night's King is coming for them. That or do his astral projection shit to warn everyone of the impending army. Pissed off that he can't kill the Three Eyed Raven, the Night's King unleashes his full power as the King of Winter - he and his army sweep over the land like some creepy Nazghul shit at breakneck speed south towards King's Landing to kill Jon.
The army of the dead hits King's Landing like a brutal avalanche, destroying the city walls and messing up the Red Keep. Last episode of the series will be a massive battle all over King's Landing. Dany will dragon ride and try to keep most of the forces at bay, she has no use for the greatsword Heartsbane and gives it to Jon. Brienne and Jaime use the swords forged from Ned's valyrian sword Ice to keep the undead out of the throne room, Arya and Sandor collect wildfyre to block the wights from entry to the passages to the throne room. Tyrion commands the city watch to collect the stockpiled wildfyre to create a perimeter of impenetrable fire outside of the Red Keep. Jon will fight the Night's King in front of the Iron Throne. Longclaw will be broken by Other magic somehow. In a dire moment he pulls Heartsbane from its sheath and it bursts into flame, it is Fire, the Red Sword of Heroes from Prophecy (a two handed Valyrian steel greatsword like Ned Stark's Ice - its twin sword). Night's King is taken off guard by its power, Jon obliterates NK's sword and cuts off the Night King's arm - Night's King totally shitty his pants. Jon then plunges it through the Night King's chest, it's magical power fills him, destroying the dragon glass that created him and he explodes. His army lacking the magical power to hold their form all burst into flame and turn to cinders.
Winter subsides slowly. Dany and Jon (whose birth name was Aemon, revealed by Bran through a vision) rule the Seven Kingdoms as King and Queen. Bran and Meera become Warden and Wardeness of the North at Winterfell (marries Meera). Robin is Warden of the East at the Eyrie (Sansa marries him, becomes Wardeness, he grows up quite a bit and he ends up being the least shitty guy she's come across - super unlikely actually?). Yara is the Wardeness of the West at Casterly Rock - turns Lannisport into the biggest trade destination in the world becomes ultra rich trader, buries Theon in a nice place. Olenna Tyrell is Wardeness of the South in Highgarden. Tyrion becomes Hand the King and Queen, he catches the eye of the middle sandsnake daughter - she reminds him of Shae. Ser Davos is given Storm's End, as the Baratheon bloodline was destroyed. Jaime and Brienne retire to Tarth. Arya is named First Sword of Westeros. Sandor is made Captain of the city watch. Jorah Fedorah survives and is named captain of the Queensguard. Dario, who gives a shit about him he rules the east or dies or some shit. Greyworm and Missandei retire and live together. Bronn marries the youngest daughter of Oberyn and moves to Sunspear. Samwell Tarly becomes the Grandmaester and lives happily with his wife and kid. Varys stays the master of Whispers, but it given a more official title in thanks. The wall melts and turns into a great lake, all of the land north of the wall and in the gift becomes the most fertile land in all the realm. The Wildlings are asked settle this land freely and Tormund is named Warden of the Great Gift - saddened that Brienne picked the pretty boy, Obara catches his eye and they hit it off. Magic returns to the realm in a big way. The rest of the winter snows melt and turns the Seven Kingdoms into a fertile paradise. A spring comes that seems undending. The end.
To me - this all seems like the most straightforward/simple version of the story given the streamlined spirit of the tv show - definitely more "happily ever after" than what we'll actually get, but I still wonder how much of this will be accurate. Congrats to anyone who read all of that.
Thanks I'm glad it didn't read like complete garbage. Added some stuff at the end for Arya, Sandor, and Jorah as well as Cersei's death and the battle with the Night's King.
wesleyshark
Banned
Is there a new OT being made since we hit 400? Or is this just going to keep going since season 6 is over haha.
That was awesome. Like you said..it won't be that happy though
Also if I recall correctly Dany does not need to meet the forces of Dorne and Highgarden because they have already joined her fleet.
Well, she she just has their fleet of ships.
I'd imagine the bulk of Highgarden's and Sunspear's forces would be positioned aggressively against the crown's lands in preparation for the arrival of the armada - I'd imagine their first target would be the biggest eastern stronghold not under their control (like how Aegon takes it in the books). I don't think they would send their armies east just to go west again - probably just skeleton crews on the ships, so the ranks would be filled by Dothraki and Unsullied and others on the trip back to Westeros.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I really want to give D&D enough credit and assume that Sansa will just play into LF's hands so she can get his hopes up and kill him but there is a voice that keeps reminding me of all the shitty out of character thing they've had other characters do which stunted their development for the sake of a cool scene or high drama!
So I don't know.
So I don't know.
wesleyshark
Banned
I like that they don't seem to want to give the Night King any dialog. His silence is far more intimidating than anything he could say. Quietly killing and snuffing out all who cross his path, only to reanimate them into his horde.
Oldest Snake
Member
But think of all the shitty, out of character things they had Littlefinger do to put him in the situation where Sansa can take advantage of his many, many mistakes.
higgsboson1997
Member
Why would it be out of character for her to be jealous of Jon. It will be very in-character with the very untrusting current Sansa, who loves her brother but not yet completely out of LF's grasp.
It's just a development that many want to see because we all want them to get along, but it feels very organic to me.
wesleyshark
Banned
He left before she came back, so I had assumed he was going to seek Dorne's help. And then he shows up with their fleets only to find that Dany had come back and her dragons and ransacked the Master's forces.
Yeah I'm guessing it's a "nobody takes you seriously but me" kind of thing. "See they don't respect you, they picked a bastard over you".
Probably just playing on her insecurities and feeling unappreciated, she is definitely going to kill his ass though - because selling her off to Bolton will never be forgiven. She will probably play along with him and give him what he wants, retire to the Vale and push his ass out of the moon door. Effectively taking control of everything he's played the game to get and denying him consummation of their marriage. Will probably return control of the Vale to Robin, unless he's killed or something.
wesleyshark
Banned
Feels quite organic to me also.
toddhunter
Member
Instead we get eight episodes of Dany sitting in Dorne, one episode which is a battle and a final episode where shit happens.
king picollo
Member
They needed some kind of travelling montage of packing, journeying, meetings of various people. Wouldn't have taken long and would have given it a sense of time passing.
Even Rocky had a montage.
Even Rocky had a montage.
He left before the master's forces arrived with the objective to form an alliance for the Westeros invasion. If he found out about the attack when he got there, then surely he can find out that they were defeated later on as well. Or he was just bringing ships for Dany for transport. Either way all of this is speculation and off screen. It's a question which doesn't need to be answered (and would have never been asked if he wasn't at the ship at the end - or had that been handled slightly better).
John Dunbar
correct about everything
i like how the fact that jorah confessed to dany that he was sending info to varys seems to have been completely glossed over.
Ramsayhappyending.gif
Considering how much that gets posted, probably not.
Edit: oh shit I'm in the wrong thread.
toddhunter
Member
Tyrion already explained that it was really Varys keeping her and her brother alive. He got the info, but that meant nobody else was getting it and he could control it.
It rolls so nice, but if it happens, it will be the biggest fanservice I have ever seen. Nope, it is going to be the bittersweet end. Probably happier than in the books, but still bittersweet.
The only thing I see happening is Cersei going the mad king way and Jaime killing her. And maybe Euron wrecking shit along the coast.
But I'm going to bookmark this, just to see how much of it actually happens
They did talk about it last season, Tyrion said Varys did what he had to survive and the reason she and Viserys managed to escape is likely because of him.
Urgh I hate that the show-only Ramsay line is now the summary of the entire story. It's not.
I agree it's not but it's repeated posting does show that many people do believe we will not get a clearly happy/pleasant resolution ending to everything. So that notion is not unique to that poster is all I'm saying.
Well. In the books Jon is a Warg...maybe the only one that can do it with Dragon and depossess Dany of them?
The song to the final scene though, good stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TKup7HUUUg
Moff
Member
I like this a lot
Why did the sparrows block everyone anyway? The rest of them weren't on trial.
It rolls so nice, but if it happens, it will be the biggest fanservice I have ever seen. Nope, it is going to be the bittersweet end. Probably happier than in the books, but still bittersweet.
The only thing I see happening is Cersei going the mad king way and Jaime killing her. And maybe Euron wrecking shit along the coast.
But I'm going to bookmark this, just to see how much of it actually happens
Yeah I'm basically doing the happily ever after version - which is much much much more likely to happen on the show than in the books, killing the only people who are pretty much guaranteed to die due to lack of plot armor.
I'm sure Jorah and Sandor and many others will die in the books, probably in the show as well. Bran will probably have to melt into a weirwood or some crazy shit. I'm sure GRRM will come up with better than what I've written by leagues, D&DB...ehhhh
I wouldn't put it past GRRM to kill off Jon, Arya, Tyrion by the end of the series.
Oh for sure, we know it will be a bittersweet ending, but it won't be nihilistic, it will be tragic but hopeful I'm guessing, many of our characters will die but there will be a prospect of a decent future.
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