93xfan
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I think it's more that it isn't worth the costs in many cases. For example, look at the 60FPS mode in FH5 on Series X and tell me you wouldn't rather have a decent draw distance
Unreal Engine 5.1 Features Scalable Lumen To Achieve 60fps On Consoles, And More
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From what I remember Epic said that the rendering cost for Nanite was similar to the approaches used on last gen. The drawbacks are more lack of support for foliage and animated objects, which this update somewhat addresses.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
60 fps is here to stay!
They won't make a new Gears game without 60 FPS after how important it was for 5.
Shifty
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Dirty DevOps cheater solutions, every last one of them
Though unfortunately I only see it getting worse, since display manufacturers are running ever further ahead of where console CPUs / GPUs are at.
CamHostage
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They're upgrading it to UE5, in time. This will likely be more of a maintenance/preservation move (ala Fortnite) rather than a bold new next-gen "Rocket League 2", because it's just an old codebase at this point that they keep retrofitting (they already had some problems with the next-gen version deploy and UE3 is just going to get older) but they'll want to preserve as accurately as possible the gameplay in transition. Granted, they could do some new things with it once it's over, but the main thing is to make sure Rocket League still keeps being Rocket League.
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DerivedDataCache
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This update might get me to use ue5 more.
It fixes a lot my issues with it.
The poor performance from lumen feels like shit in the editor. Its so laggy.
Plus nanite supports foliage and they fixed the stutterstruggle.
Compiling those pso shaders are such a pain, no wonder devs skip on it.
There are still tons of bugs i hope they fix.
World partition and the water system to support tiled landscapes.
Make chaos physics more stable. Right now its braking things that worked fine with physx.
Atm still like 4 more than 5 but this is a good step in the right direction.
It fixes a lot my issues with it.
The poor performance from lumen feels like shit in the editor. Its so laggy.
Plus nanite supports foliage and they fixed the stutterstruggle.
Compiling those pso shaders are such a pain, no wonder devs skip on it.
There are still tons of bugs i hope they fix.
World partition and the water system to support tiled landscapes.
Make chaos physics more stable. Right now its braking things that worked fine with physx.
Atm still like 4 more than 5 but this is a good step in the right direction.
ParaSeoul
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Only people who thought it wasn't are FUD spreaders60 fps is here to stay!
systemr123
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I would choose a 60 fps 1440p mode with double the details in everything, or other graphical wizardry. As long as it doesn't dip under 60 fps. Or 40 fps 1440p with unlimited graphics
. 30 fps, never again though, if your tv is bigger than 42 inch it's horrible and on my 139 inch projection screen it's abysmal 
.Edit: I'm really happy to finally see the push to 60 fps again, with slight detail loss, instead of 30fps with better graphics after all those years of torture.
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Kuranghi
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I do think it is too due to the better CPUs among many other reasons but even now the 30fps modes are the ones that people are basing their "this game looks like or close to what i want from next-gen" opinions on, the gap will only get larger as the gen goes on until the one lauded as the "TLOU2" of this new gen graphically will be significantly different in the 60fps mode.
The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Bro you do realise I mentioned 120 fps eight? Not 60 lol.
Creating creative works take time .. developers have a good workable build of the engine for less of a year.
Amiga
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SLI or something?
Feel Like I'm On 42
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Nobody admits thus but there's a huge gap in graphics quality in FH5 going from the 60 fps to 30. They had to tone down a lot of the tesselates high res textures and the lighting is worse too at 60.
Which begs the question: Are these consoles even capable of unreal 5 games at 60? So many can't even run fidelity mode quality visuals at 60 fps using hood upscaling.
Ratchet, Spiderman, forza 5, horizon fw to name a few that are scaled way down to hit 60 (ratchet and Horizon not too bad but Spiderman and Forza look last gen at 60 fps). Lots of games like this.
systemr123
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Yes that's why, if you read, I say I'd prefer 60 above 120. Don't know what's the lol about that
. Half the frames, double the details.
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The_Mike
I cry about SonyGaf from my chair in Redmond, WA
Ah my bad. I just found it very weird to prefer 60 fps over 120 fps so it was a surprise you preferred 60 fps.Yes that's why, if you read, I say I'd prefer 60 above 120. Don't know what's the lol about that
MikeM
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That is true no matter the situation tho. If you peaked at 60fps max settings on PC and want 120fps, you need to lower your settings accordingly to hit that frametime.
Also, pretty sure that Fortnite uses UE5.
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I still have to see something better than this.
This is the next gen they promise me and is yet to come after almost
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RoadHazard
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Welcome back 720p, how we've missed you!
RoadHazard
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Almost three years of what? The consoles were released 1 year and 9 months ago.
I agree there is a disturbing lack of true next-gen stuff so far though, everything is just PS4+.
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Lol, true.
When your engine is bound by last gen, you can't use all the new features like: mesh shading , SFS, etc so until we see games exclusively for this generation.. we don't know.
ahtlas7
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You are a developer?
darrylgorn
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Is this for games this gen or next gen?
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
No thats for the Path Tracer.
Currently it will only use one of your GPUs to render.
With this update it will use im assuming any number of GPUs in your system.
systemr123
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No problem
. Of course I'd prefer 120 if the graphics would be the same but it's a bit useless as of now because most people don't even have a 120hz tv or monitor. So with the current gpu power and average 60hz tv I'd prefer 60fps for best effect until all tv/monitors support 120hz and gpu power would be sufficient 
Sneakysnake
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Just to be clear. If ANY full game looks as good as the matrix demo and holds 30 fps, that would be quite an achievement. Idk who is looking at that matrix demo and thinking it would be a bad thing to have games like that. I think the demo was universally accepted as inspiring for this gen!
Any full game that is going to run at 60fps is not going to look nearly as good as that sub 30fps demo. I just don't want you to think "oh good now we will have games that look like the matrix demo but run at 60fps"...if that's even what you were thinking.
DerivedDataCache
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Im a hobbyist. Use ue4 everyday. Atm working on a couple demos. A shooter, melee and racing game. After that planning to commit to a large scale project.
Or a gamejam with others to get collaborative experience. But only once I feel like I've learned all the basics.
Are you into gamedev too?
Amiga
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How dose a gaming system use multiple GPUs? I thought this stopped. I tried to look it up, but the applications for multi-GPUs today are for machine learning.
01011001
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the only gaming card that still supports it is the 3090 (and the 3090ti)
it never was good and is a complete waste of money these days anyways
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
The Path Tracer in Unreal Engine 5 is basically for offline rendering it isnt actually for gaming. (atleast not yet, with more powerful GPU who knows)
Remember that Unreal Engine at this point is much much more than just a gaming engine.
You can use the Path Tracer to do Light/Shadow mapping, ground truth renders or when you need to render out cutscenes/movies.
Most if not all GPU render engines will utilize all GPUs in a system even without the interlink.
Unreal Engine 5 prior to V5.1 would basically ignore the other GPUs in your system.
With this update I guess it will utilize them.
That's because we have not seen any unreal 5 games yet.we are stil using last generation engines.
ABnormal
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The engine has barely entered its commercial phase, and games require years to make. How could possibly exist a finished big game made out of it? We will probably enjoy UE5 big games near the end of the generation. But the good thing is that it's an engine capable to handle every task and incredibly efficient. It will allow great things for many years. And I'm looking forward to see how much is possible to push it with foveated rendering on PS5. Nanite is just the perfect feature for it.
iHaunter
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Play Demon's Souls
bitbydeath
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Played it through PS+.
M1chl
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It's probably for movies rendering and shit, not real time.