Well there is just as much evidence for that being the case as there is for a lot of the other theories I've seen about this floating around the web. Hopefully Shepard will be around to save us.
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Unusual UFO sighting in Chile in 2010
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Well there is just as much evidence for that being the case as there is for a lot of the other theories I've seen about this floating around the web. Hopefully Shepard will be around to save us.
Thanks. Was gonna mention this. Anyway, the proof is in the video for those that are curious.
They take the video feeds right from the shuttle or ISS. How is it different from the earlier videos? Those were delayed too!
Ether_Snake
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I repeat: where are the pictures or videos of the other cameras?
Neuromancer
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Don't know, Chile's got them. Don't know if they've all been released, probably not.
-Pyromaniac-
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Honestly, I thought about this for a couple hours and it seems pretty legit.
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So there is no proof that there even is more footage of this at all. So basically, this is another typical bad-footage UFO video. 1980 quality too, in 2010. lol
Big Chungus
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CurlySaysX
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swamp gas filled weather balloon.
lolez2matt
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I will try to find them in the news webs and or forums here .. I think I saw this voideo from other angle with the ufo yoo.
Neuromancer
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Well sure if you think that "Gen. Ricardo Bermúdez, formerly chief commander of the air force's 3rd Air Brigade (southern area) and an air attaché in London" is flat out lying then yeah. I agree it would be nice to have all 7 instances video footage to judge for ourselves though. Remember this presentation was just made a few days ago. Maybe it will all be made available to see soon.
As for the quality of the footage I imagine even with an HD camera it would be difficult if not impossible to really get a good view of that thing. Apparently people didn't notice it until footage was reviewed but even so its eratic high speed movements would have been impossible to zoom in on.
The one in the OP that shows something moving fast as hell is more interesting to me than some random lights in the air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTHWBSluUjU
the sound of the motor oh my god. You think it's going fast, but then it just keeps going.
It could almost pass as a UFO if it flew a bit higher and a grainier video camera was used.
Hmm. Seems likely.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Just in time for the History channels new Ancient Aliens show. I think this time they are claiming the Aliens are actually Sasquatch using time traveling spacecraft.
Unhandled Exception
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A mass 'ufo' sighting isn't an unusual event. The phoenix lights for example - an elaborate hoax that was witnessed on multiple occasion by hundreds to thousands of people. Situations like this aren't really worth more than a glance over. UFOs happen so frequently because of ignorance, not because of extraterrestrial presence. Until there's evidence to the contrary, even a shred of it, things like this gracing news headlines only tempts average people to waste their time investigating the perfectly human creations.
shadyspace
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Why the hell would UFOs be visible anyway. Wouldn't these aliens capable of interstellar flight have cloaking capabilities?
What? Watch NASA tv, they show ISS spacewalks all the time.
SeaOfMadness
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Or have technology at least as good as Google Maps from a bit further away?
wat
Voltron64
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I don't know.
Unhandled Exception
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What don't you follow? Evidence?
no, thanks.
I've heard a few explanations for the primary 2007 'flying V' event... But I haven't heard that it was a hoax. Notably, the more recent event wasn't like the major event in 2007, the lights were different, behaved differently, and did not keep formation. Someone did claim to hoax that, but it seems to contrast from the 2007 event that was like, everywhere. The I think some flight wing did say they were emergency flares launched in an exercise or something, but that's questionable. Some sources have said those flares wouldn't have flown over Phoenix like that, and that they wouldn't have stayed in such tight uniform shape like that, being flares on a parachute.
Adam Scott Aukerman
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In a word, yes. While it looks likely that the video was shot with a higher-than-usual shutter speed (the usual being 1/50 - 1/60), the speed at which that thing is supposedly moving is just utterly ridiculous, and there's essentially no chance that you would get that clearly defined frames of the object. Going by what that video implies visually, you'd have to assume that it was moving no faster than the planes themselves, and in which case is likely closer, lower, and smaller than it at first appears.
Hard to say for certain though without knowing what the video was shot on.
As for someone claiming that it can't be artifacting because it appeared on other videos - where are the videos?
Unhandled Exception
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The first incident was likely not a hoax but military craft dropping flares from very high alts. The 'return' incidents in 2007 and 2008 were most certainly hoaxes. My point was and still is: mass sightings have nothing to do with validity. Those who investigate mass sightings tend to want to find something and in doing so ignore key witnesses and evidence that point events away from extraterrestrial origin. They practice the same investigation techniques as most media outlets.
'Man observes military craft dropping flares with his telescope' isn't a headline. 'Hundreds witness silent low-flying flying 'vee' of lights over night sky' is. One is credible, the other incredible. Wonder which is more likely truthful.
2007 was the one claimed to be flares, and not from that high and alt, really.
2008 was the group of floating lights that were more of a wobbly U than a tight V. And I wasn't talking about your initial point. I was referring to your stating the 'Phoenix Lights' incident, that 2007 event which is commonly referred to as such(omitting the 1997 incident), was a hoax.
Ok so I'm gonna post a strange theory about "ufos" that just hit me after watching the YouTube vid here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvk_6sKrFoM&feature=youtube_gdata_player and combining it with thoughts on a movie on netflix called dmt the spirit molecule.
I have a belief that the galaxy and stars and even the sun are made up of souls and spirits. Heaven. To the human eye and masked by science it's just known as space. Dmt causes out of body psychedelic experiences that take the user to a different realm. And like many of these so called drugs they seem to alter time. A 15 minute trip lasts what seems like a lifetime or longer because the concept of time is different in the other realm.
Now go back to the YouTube vid and the whole ufo phenomena. They always seem to operate outside of the rules of what we know as time. The guy mentions we can only see them sometimes when they slow down and watch us. Hence being able to be captured on film in split seconds. So what if ufos aren't ufos? But angels, souls and spirits? What if we're mearly catching glimpses of them watching us from the other side?
I've most recently began to think of ufos as time travellers but time travel isn't possible on earth but it would be operating from the other side where time doesn't exist. That's why crafts seem to bend time and physics when we do see them. Actual crafts could be their method of coming back or crossing over when these spirits need to intervene or interact with us. Why would they want to do that? Because they were here before before "death".
I have a belief that the galaxy and stars and even the sun are made up of souls and spirits. Heaven. To the human eye and masked by science it's just known as space. Dmt causes out of body psychedelic experiences that take the user to a different realm. And like many of these so called drugs they seem to alter time. A 15 minute trip lasts what seems like a lifetime or longer because the concept of time is different in the other realm.
Now go back to the YouTube vid and the whole ufo phenomena. They always seem to operate outside of the rules of what we know as time. The guy mentions we can only see them sometimes when they slow down and watch us. Hence being able to be captured on film in split seconds. So what if ufos aren't ufos? But angels, souls and spirits? What if we're mearly catching glimpses of them watching us from the other side?
I've most recently began to think of ufos as time travellers but time travel isn't possible on earth but it would be operating from the other side where time doesn't exist. That's why crafts seem to bend time and physics when we do see them. Actual crafts could be their method of coming back or crossing over when these spirits need to intervene or interact with us. Why would they want to do that? Because they were here before before "death".
teruterubozu
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So basically your theory is biblical.
elrechazado
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Appeals to authority aren't evidence.
And also wrong.
At this point in our society, the only thing being extraordinary is the skeptic's ability to still deny all this. But do not worry, this will change rapidly in the coming years.
Monocle
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It's definitely for sure aliens. Apply your lube now, before it's too late.
Seriously?
ThoseDeafMutes
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Only if "cloaking" in the way you're imagining it is even possible. A more pressing concern would be why they would try to hide themselves, yet constantly do flyovers of densely populated areas in broad daylight. Or why they would glow so brightly as to be clearly visible in the night sky.
Monocle
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They're galactic travelers with incomprehensibly advanced spacefaring technology, not strategists. Gosh! Typical skeptic.
It's more extraordinary how some people don't understand laws of physics & simple math. Good luck accumulating enough energy for that intergalactic space travel.
ThoseDeafMutes
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That is in decidedly ordinary.
I disagree with your conclusion (that interstellar travel isn't viable) but I agree that the form it will takes will not resemble UFO mythology.
No, that is just arrogance, assuming that just because we are building on a linear concept of "travel" in space, other civilizations need to follow the same assumptions too. They do not.
Something, something, swamp gas, blah, blah, weather balloon...
Clearly a part of the apocryphal books - Deutoronimacorinthigenijob.
They live in the same universe as us, so yes they do.
Neuromancer
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I never said it was evidence.
POWERSPHERE
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Evidence can't be gathered for things we can't comprehend.
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