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Unversity president decorated home with cotton stalks while hosting black students
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This motherfucker. How can any of yall for a second think that shit isnt offensive? Cotton on the table? He may as well have put chains on the goddamn table too.
Also to all of you getting caught up in the semantics of where what originated from; you need to stop because you are actively detailing the disccussion. Those meals are considered staples in the black community and you know it. STOP.
Also to all of you getting caught up in the semantics of where what originated from; you need to stop because you are actively detailing the disccussion. Those meals are considered staples in the black community and you know it. STOP.
Some people find a way, man. Every damn time in these types of threads.
Did the University President face any reprimand? Thats what I want to know.
Night Angel
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This kind of shit astounds me. Did no one, at any point, feel any kind of shame during the planning and execution of this?
Blows my damn mind. Not that this dude was racist, but that he'd be so blatant. Hopefully this gets him to reflect and address it.
Blows my damn mind. Not that this dude was racist, but that he'd be so blatant. Hopefully this gets him to reflect and address it.
mac and cheese by itself doesn't say much but with collard greens, cornbread and being preceded by latino dinner serving tacos it's very blatant in what it's trying to convey.
skullmuffins
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IMO the mac & cheese is easily the least problematic part of the dinner and I don't think it would even raise an eyebrow if it was being served with a meal that didn't play so hard into stereotypes. And without the cotton.
Brawndo Addict
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It's not about the position itself, it's about participating in good-faith. Or as the TOS puts it, "don't post disingenuously". You can't have a real discussion/dialogue if one of the parties is just staking out an imaginary position or playing a role for their own motivation/amusement.
Now, based on follow-up posts and general posting history, I don't think Fenderputty was trying to intentionally troll in this manner. But when you start a post with a "devil's advocate" preface and deliberately cut out the most damning racist context of the story, you're going to end up with a pretty bad look no matter what you originally intended. And it's also going to be a bad look if you don't realize why that kind of thing is a bad look in the first place.
I think that the underlying intention was to express something like "Hey, this story made me think of some types of situations that have come up in my own life where I intentionally served ethnic food to people of the matching ethnicity. Could serving Chinese food to Chinese visitors be considered racially insensitive? I'm not decorating the table with Chinese iconography or anything like that guy putting cotton on the table, but I've never really thought about whether this type of meal serving could be seen as racially insensitive/offensive."
That is something you can have an honest dialogue and conversation about, it's just that the execution was very badly botched.
Wag
Member
That's Trump- simultaneously trying to please everybody yet pleasing nobody.
Fenderputty
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This is accurate and again, yes I should have known it was a bad way to address the situation. Again, apologies if I've offended.
Yeah the tacos the night before make everything sound suspect tho. Im down w the explanation that it was all just a multi step brain fart where white people, being white and not having certain experiences, just didn't realize or examine their own actions, but the response to being called out is pretty fucking stupid. You're hosting these students as your guests, you fucking listen when your accomodations make your guests uncomfortable.
King Tubby
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He really served tacos to the Latino students? The fuck. If I were there and this motherfucker was serving tacos I'd get irritated.
Captin Quacker
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While this is fucked up it also reminds me of my time as an exchange student in the states. My host mom served me a side of sauerkraut and snack pretzels for dinner the first three days. When I told her that I like sauerkraut but don't need it everyday to function she seemed a little disappointed. This was in VA btw.
disappeared
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The problem therein lies that every sleazy wealthy white person would become infatuated with the country and would pay any amount of money to become acclimated to it.
parrotbeak
Member
Can we still have pizza and hamburgers?
The meal in itself is fine, but pair it with the centerpiece and the tacos for the Latinos and it because a whole nother thing.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
NO, you are allowed chopped cheese and totinos party pizza. Chopped cheese is pretty good though, so you should feel good about this deal. totinos party pizza is only good if your are in 5th grade.
My (non-black, English) wife loves that stuff. Like, it'd be her 'you can only eat one meal for the rest of your life' choice.
Why come in here just to lie?
finowns
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That can't be true. For one there couldn't be enough black cooks to cook for every white person in the South. White people must have been cooking. And I imagine every poor person got cheap cuts of meat to cook with.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Those are some good years. Cherish them. Actual advice.
No one said they weren't cooking. Maybe what they were cooking wasn't memorable. From Low Country/Gulliah, to the Bayou, black people formed the base of southern cooking. Who think introduced spices and how to use them?
finowns
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It almost certainly would be Native Americans if you were looking for the 'base'.
Link?
llien
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boredandlazy
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Maybe he just has mental issues that somehow excuse his racism?
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Even the article you posted said that whole animal prep was found all over the world, and the only dishes directly attributed to them is grits and cornbread. I hope you don't think that is the extant of southern food.
Plus you discount the history. even after slavery whites would track down and eat in black places or hire them to do the cooking. Hell not to mention segregation, prohibition, and the Harlem Renascence
disappeared
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Paul Mooney was right.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
I'll challenge any of you on iron chef.
hydrophilic attack
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ugh that's dumb as fuck
that said, well-made cornbread and mac n cheese are amazing
that said, well-made cornbread and mac n cheese are amazing
People want to white wash black contributions to American history?
Quit having a dumb argument about who "invented" Southern cuisine. Like most things it was a synthesis of multiple inputs, including European dishes, African cuisine brought by slaves, cuisine invented by slaves, and Native Americans.
If you really need to beat this to death, go start a new thread.
If you really need to beat this to death, go start a new thread.
finowns
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I don't know the specific food you have in mind and I wouldn't deny African Americans impact in that regard anyways. My response was to your original post 'Southern Cuisine is black cuisine' which I disagree with. Historically, I'm not knowledgeable enough to argue with you, I know they must have popularized it with their movements from the South.
disappeared
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In short, yes.
I mean yes in the sense that's its a bad thing.
Mooney's quote: "Everybody wanna be a n---a but nobody wanna be a n---a"
Gordon Shumway
Banned
lol..Fucking idiot.
Always-honest
Banned
It's really confusing for a lot of americans (or people in general), isn't it?
guggnichso
Banned
Ok, apart from the racist food and whatnot:
Why the fuck is a University president hosting students at his home.
Furthermore, why is a University president hosting student groups at his home where the groups are divided by their skin colour? That alone I would deem racist as shit. ah, today we have brownish latino students, tomorrow black students, the day after some asian ones... what a life! Now where are those instant ramen...
The fuck is going on there?
Why the fuck is a University president hosting students at his home.
Furthermore, why is a University president hosting student groups at his home where the groups are divided by their skin colour? That alone I would deem racist as shit. ah, today we have brownish latino students, tomorrow black students, the day after some asian ones... what a life! Now where are those instant ramen...
The fuck is going on there?
At my Alma Mater, the president would host students for dinner all the time; honors recipients, athletic and social clubs, and random groups of students who didn't fit in any of the aforementioned groups. Just a way to meet and greet the people forking over tens of thousands of dollars for their education. Nothing weird about it in and of itself.
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