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[Magnific0giganticus]

If the PS4 game is getting a free PS5 upgrade, there's really no point in a dedicated PS5 edition at $10 more.

The PS5 boxed copy should either disappear, or it gets reduced to $60 to match PS4.

But let's see if Sony leaves the PS5 copy still there for +$10 hoping nobody read this Labour Day weekend blog post and just mindlessly buys the PS5 edition.

The price will change , it's not like they will scam people that missed the news lol. All Standard editions will be $60. Just like it was for Sackboy's big Adventure, for instance, and many third party games.

 

[trikster40]

This is nice, but they need to add the ability to transfer your save from PS5 to PS4 to auto pop the trophies. Sucks that it works transferring save from PS4 to PS5 but not vice versa.

 

[Agent X]

Good on them giving horizon for free as promised. But future titles still have a $10 tax, seriously? Why?

There is NO tax for "next gen" on PC or Xbox games studios.

That's a good point. If you keep in mind that Microsoft is able to offer cross-gen games at a single price, then Sony really ought to match this.

They should all be free upgrades. The games share a common development track.

So why would anyone buy the ps5 version?

One possibility is that someone owns a PS5, but doesn't have the system connected to the Internet. Therefore, he can't download any ""updates" or "upgrades". He would need to install everything directly from the disc.

What's more interesting about Jim's statement about $10 future upgrades is it involves God of War, GT7 and "any other exclusive cross-gen PS4 & PS5 title published by Sony Interactive Entertainment."

Which means there's more unannounced cross gen games.

I'm willing to bet that MLB The Show 22 will still be on both systems.

 

[ReBurn]

They said launch games were going to be free. Horizon was never a launch game

Nice man jim is just appeasing to the masses who couldn't read.

Whether it was a launch title isn't the issue and is hardly relevant. Sony said the upgrade was going to be free. Their blog from last year before the PS5 launched says the upgrade was going to be free.

PlayStation 5 launches in November, starting at $399 for PS5 Digital Edition and $499 for PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray Disc Drive

New games announced at PS5 Showcase, including Final Fantasy XVI, Hogwarts Legacy, and a new God of War title

blog.playstation.com

Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we’re happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Whether it was a launch title isn't the issue and is hardly relevant. Sony said the upgrade was going to be free. Their blog from last year before the PS5 launched says the upgrade was going to be free.

PlayStation 5 launches in November, starting at $399 for PS5 Digital Edition and $499 for PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray Disc Drive

New games announced at PS5 Showcase, including Final Fantasy XVI, Hogwarts Legacy, and a new God of War title

blog.playstation.com

It is relevent because the part about free upgrades specifically related to launch games

 

[Corndog]

That's because xbox next gen titles don't have as many upgradable components.

In the example, Horizon, they literally have more foliage, and more coral and underwater is more detailed - i expect God of War will be like that too, not sure what GT will bring in that regard tho.

its not just and FPS or res boost like most Xbox games.

That's also why they are making all their new games (xbox) exclusive to next gen so they can avoid what sony is doing. It's easy to do when you have half the user base Sony has on last gen consoles.

You’re basing this on what?

 

[ReBurn]

It is relevent because the part about free upgrades specifically related to launch games

You said people can't read. Sony wrote it right there for you to read. Whether it is a launch game or not isn't relevant. Sony said the upgrade would be free, then it wasn't. Now it is.

 

[Corndog]

They’ve been pretty clear on continuing to support ps4 for at least a couple of years after ps5 release, so that really shouldn’t come as a surprise.

Oh, so exactly like Xbox. Glad you could clear that up.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

You said people can't read. Sony wrote it right there for you to read. Whether it is a launch game or not isn't relevant. Sony said the upgrade would be free, then it wasn't. Now it is.

What part of "launch games will include a free upgrade" do you not get?

 

[Jaysen]

They said launch games were going to be free. Horizon was never a launch game

Nice man jim is just appeasing to the masses who couldn't read.

Sure if you ignore the fact that they just admitted Horizon was intended to be free.

 

[SLB1904]

What part of "launch games will include a free upgrade" do you not get?

they get it for sure.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Sure if you ignore the fact that they just admitted Horizon was intended to be free.

I didn't ignore it. I already responded to you about that

They had to compromise since people believed they were promised a free upgrade and it got out of hand

 

[SlimySnake]

This is good news and all but they have even more cross gen games coming out. wtf?

 

[Mr Moose]

Sure if you ignore the fact that they just admitted Horizon was intended to be free.

As a launch game, yeah. But it wasn't a launch game, it was delayed.

 

[sainraja]

I didn't ignore it. I already responded to you about that

They had to compromise since people believed they were promised a free upgrade and it got out of hand

In the blog, they only talk about it applying to launch games, yes. But in another interview Jim Ryan (most likely still under the assumption of launch but regardless) stated specifically the HFW would be a free which is likely the main reason they had to make it free.

It's good that they did this given the uproar and good they clarified that there will always be a $10 dollar upgrade path for games applicable.

 

[SLB1904]

so people were mad because sony didnt have an upgrade path, they backtrack... people still mad. lol

 

[Jaysen]

As a launch game, yeah. But it wasn't a launch game, it was delayed.

Lol

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

In the blog they only talk about launch games, yes. But in another interview Jim Ryan (most likely still under the assumption of launch but regardless) stated specifically the HFW would be a free which is likely the main reason they had to make it free. Yes, the blog post only mentioned launch games.

Hard to go by WP stuff since they're just paraphrasing

But yeah best thing to come out of these PR diasters is the communication.

 

[AnotherOne]

Gamers won, 10$ next gen updates are bs

 

[ReBurn]

In the blog, they only talk about it applying to launch games, yes. But in another interview Jim Ryan (most likely still under the assumption of launch but regardless) stated specifically the HFW would be a free which is likely the main reason they had to make it free. Yes, the blog post only mentioned launch games.

At this point he's just being pedantic to justify some moronic stance. Sony said the upgrade was to be free, Jim said the upgrade was to be free. People doing 4D chess to protect Sony after they already admitted they forgot what they said.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

At this point he's just being pedantic to justify some moronic stance. Sony said the upgrade was to be free, Jim said the upgrade was to be free. People doing 4D chess to protect Sony after they already admitted they forgot what they said.

Mate it's not being pedantic. It's basic english.

 

[sainraja]

so people were mad because sony didnt have an upgrade path, they backtrack... people still mad. lol

That shouldn't surprise anyone. The move by Sony was poor and they should still try to make the path for people to switch to PS5 easier (and less costly) but some of the folks here making a big fuss were Xbox guys, who only did so because it made their favorite company and box look better. That's part of the console war narrative. Sony just made it easier for them, lol (which is true....the pricing strategy is/was stupid.)

 

[yurinka]

Nice to see we'll get the free upgrade and to see them rectifying mistakes. Nice backpealing, Jimbo Jackson:

Dumbasses, backtracking like bitches.

You can still buy the PS4 and PS5 versions at full price separatedly. It's a good option for people like you who don't want to get an upgrade optioin, and free.

 

[SLB1904]

but some of the folks here making a big fuss were Xbox guys, who only did so because it made their favorite company and box look better.

amateurs. if they stayed quiet sony would look bad and they could spam sony anti-consumer on Thursday stream. now it will look silly.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Make sure my fellow members of the PlayStation Nation pay the $70

Jim can't afford the bus fare to work without our support!

 

[Shmunter]

No doubt there will be more.

But the best thing about Jim's statement (assuming he sticks to it), is his commitment to $10 upgrades for future games. Therefore, no more Horizon FW shenanigans forcing gamers to buy different editions or that +$20 combo platform edition.

If a PS4 gamer gets a PS5 later and wants to play it with PS5 quality, Sony has now committed to a simple to understand $10 upgrade path.

Where’s my $10 upgrade for Ghosts ya charlatan! forcing me to get the dlc just because I want the triggers!

 

[custardbun01]

So buy it on PS4 to save $10?

Also in case you were part of the camp that didn't believe gt7 was actually coming to PS4 Jimbo explicitly confirms it

Kinda pissed about the final GT7 confirmation, it’s obvious now that because this needs to run on 8 year old hardware this’ll just be GT sport with a proper GT campaign. As great as GT sport is to me, I want a bigger, better evolution for the series that’s truly next gen.

 

[abacab driver]

They tried it. They all do.
We have the power ultimately.

 

[Jaysen]

At this point he's just being pedantic to justify some moronic stance. Sony said the upgrade was to be free, Jim said the upgrade was to be free. People doing 4D chess to protect Sony after they already admitted they forgot what they said.

Yep, fanboys got caught fanboying and they’re ill equipped to deal with the about-face from Sony.

 

[Hosam6xavi]

Lol at the people who defended sony on that thread

They don't know what to say now


Good move from sony for backtracking immediately and didn't take too long to address the issue

 

[SLB1904]

Where’s my $10 upgrade for Ghosts ya charlatan! forcing me to get the dlc just because I want the triggers!

the only difference between standard ghost and directors cut is the dlc. why would you pay $10 for the same game?

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Yep, fanboys got caught fanboying and they’re ill equipped to deal with the about-face from Sony.

There's plenty of shit in my post-history that you can use as ammo to call me a fanboy or yadada, but my ability to read a paragraph is not one of them chief

 

[TJC]

Good on them giving horizon for free as promised. But future titles still have a $10 tax, seriously? Why?

There is NO tax for "next gen" on PC or Xbox games studios.

What next gen game has Xbox studios published? That's the problem.

 

[Moonjt9]

Eat shit. Sony themselves admit they intended it to be a free upgrade.

Yeah, which is extremely generous. But people are STILL mad. Now the ten dollar upgrade for future titles is too much to handle. When is it going to be enough? Or are the goalposts going to keep moving until they just give you free shit forever? Hence, if you want next gen games, buy the next gen game. The logic that you should be entitled to a free next gen game because you bought the previous gen version is asinine and entitled. Never before has this been an issue.

 

[Jaysen]

Yeah, which is extremely generous. But people are STILL mad. Now the ten dollar upgrade for future titles is too much to handle. When is it going to be enough? Or are the goalposts going to keep moving until they just give you free shit forever? Hence, if you want next gen games, buy the next gen game. The logic that you should be entitled to a free next gen game because you bought the previous gen version is asinine and entitled. Never before has this been an issue.

This wasn’t about that though. Nice goalpost move. It was about Sony saying Horizon would have a free upgrade, and then they charged for it. Now they admit they fucked up.

 

[odhiex]

Game companies are essentially not your friends, they are in the business of making money.

But this is certainly a welcome gesture. We would probably not going to bother this in 2-3 years, when there are hardly cross gen games available.

 

[Gamerguy84]

Lol, well I thought the other thread was a dumpster fire but it looks like we're doubling down.

Yeah, which is extremely generous. But people are STILL mad. Now the ten dollar upgrade for future titles is too much to handle. When is it going to be enough? Or are the goalposts going to keep moving until they just give you free shit forever? Hence, if you want next gen games, buy the next gen game. The logic that you should be entitled to a free next gen game because you bought the previous gen version is asinine and entitled. Never before has this been an issue.

They will keep moving.

 

[BaneIsPain]

Good news but I’m a bit disappointed GT7 is cross gen.

 

[Mr Moose]

This wasn’t about that though. Nice goalpost move. It was about Sony saying Horizon would have a free upgrade, and then they charged for it. Now they admit they fucked up.

Additionally, we know that the PS4 community will transition to PS5 at different times, and we’re happy to announce PS4 versions of some of our exclusives. Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales, Sackboy A Big Adventure, and Horizon Forbidden West will also launch on PS4. While these three games were designed to take advantage of PS5 and its unique next-gen features like the ultra-high-speed SSD and DualSense controller, PS4 owners will also be able to enjoy these experiences when they launch. The PS4 digital versions of launch games include a free upgrade on both PS5 consoles, while the PS4 disc versions of these games include a free upgrade on the PS5 with Ultra HD Blu-Ray disc drive.

I'm surprised they thought Horizon would be a launch game in September 2020.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

This is good news and all but they have even more cross gen games coming out. wtf?

I think they have to with more titles since they cant ship enough ps5's so that you could buy the game and console when you want.

 

[MasterCornholio]

In regards to the 10$ upgrade with the other games. I would be fine with it if they put in the work with the PS5 version. A simple resolution boost or framerate unlock isn't enough to justify the additional 10$ in my opinion.

 

[Crimson_Fate]

So does this mean that both the PS4 & PS5 Versions will now be $70 ?

 

[Dictattor]

Now I'm entitled.

 

[lh032]

guys, it is not possible for free upgrade for future 1st party titles cross gen titles.

OTHERWISE EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BUY THE PS4 VERSION INSTEAD OF PS5 VERSION.....

 

[lh032]

Just means my Ps4 got another good couple years in it lol. Thanks Jimmy

i dont understand why people keep saying this.

PS5 is better than PS4 especially for BC games, the difference between the frame rate is HUGE, or at least the 30fps frame will be locked on PS5.

 

[ManaByte]

guys, it is not possible for free upgrade for future 1st party titles cross gen titles.

OTHERWISE EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BUY THE PS4 VERSION INSTEAD OF PS5 VERSION.....

 

[lh032]

and its stupid for Sony to do that.

They are the one announcing the 70dollar PS5 game price in the first place xD

 

[hlm666]

These threads argued liked a bethesda/zenimax thread.

He said launch, but not console launch and every game has a launch so he means every cross gen game is going to have free upgrades at launch.

 

[ManaByte]

and its stupid for Sony to do that.

They are the one announcing the 70dollar PS5 game price in the first place xD

Imagine not having a $70 next gen price and having seamless and free upgrades.

 

[Dictattor]

guys, it is not possible for free upgrade for future 1st party titles cross gen titles.

OTHERWISE EVERYBODY WOULD JUST BUY THE PS4 VERSION INSTEAD OF PS5 VERSION.....

Okay, okay, I want RE-ENTITLEMENT.

Do i have to pay another $10 to get back the PS4 version If I buy the PS5 version?