Upgrade to Windows 10?

FenDozer said:
Where do you see this icon? I have Windows 8 and absolutely want to upgrade. This OS is awful...
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What edition? No free upgrade for Enterprise for example. Do you have the latest updates installed, are you on 8.1?

Skyzard said:
Why would they want just that?
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To avoid another XP-situation where so many were holding onto a completely outdated OS that MS had to support it for way too long.
 
TouchMyBox said:
It has been true since the introduction of windows 8.

When I don't want to associate a Microsoft account with a windows install, i pull the ethernet cord when booting for the first time.
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There's a lot easier way to do it. Just fail the login twice and it will go on.
 
Rebel Leader said:
Highest Windows attached rate
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I can see that, keeps you in their system a bit longer perhaps...

TouchMyBox said:
Because Windows 7 doesn't have the Microsoft Store, and doesn't support any of their Modern Apps that they are putting all of their effort into developing. They can't sell you their new razor blades if they don't give you the new razor handle.

Also Windows 10 has DirectX12, and if people don't upgrade to DX12, then DirectX is definitely going to die to Vulkan. I bet Microsoft doesn't want that.
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Okay, if the store has an enormous effort put into it then I can believe that I guess.

Interesting about the DX12 stuff, I mean gamers aren't going to mac and they have xbox...but it's the first I've even heard of Vulkan so obviously I dunno shit.

I guess we won't really know if NSA is involved in windows 10 but I can sort of see why MS would do this. People won't bother paying for a new windows if they're on 7, not for ages. Free upgrade...they're on the new system...maybe they'll buy some apps, maybe they'll be a bit less ready as a casual user to switch to osx.
 
Been using it for three weeks or so now.

Without a doubt the best OS I've ever used. Never going back to 7 or 8.
 
I have a question about upgrading. When you click the open the upgrade "program" on Windows 7 there's a tab about compatibility that lists all apps (Programs?) that'll have to be reinstalled after upgrading. I currently onlyhave one program there, does this mean that upgrading to Windows 10 won't be a "clean" install? As in it won't format your harddrive and so on? Seems a bit weird.
 
Wait and see. Let other people beta test it.

Until I can see someone has their motherboard die and replaces it with a different one that they can still do a clean install of Windows 10 using their old Windows 7 serial I will remain skeptical.

Skyzard said:
I guess we won't really know if NSA is involved in windows 10 but I can sort of see why MS would do this. People won't bother paying for a new windows if they're on 7, not for ages. Free upgrade...they're on the new system...maybe they'll buy some apps, maybe they'll be a bit less ready as a casual user to switch to osx.
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It's pretty safe to assume that the NSA already has access to Windows 8, and 7, and probably even further back. They can already access your machine, upgrading to 10 won't change your privacy or security.
 
I've been on Win 7 since its release and I'm looking forward to Win 10. I also plan on getting a new gpu around August so hopefully there will be a high quality "bang for your buck" option for me (around 300 bucks) at that time.
 
Shambles said:
It's pretty safe to assume that the NSA already has access to Windows 8, and 7, and probably even further back. They can already access your machine, upgrading to 10 won't change your privacy or security.
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It's probably more preventable currently though, you'd think they'd make it more efficient for mass surveillance or something. Meh, not a showstopper for most but it seems like they've done fuck all to reassure people and it's basically inevitable.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
We're less than two months away from the final version release. I understand that some may think it's unnecessary that pre-release software isn't as stable as post-release software, but seeing as how Windows 10 is readily available now via Tech and Insider previews, I don't think it is all that unnecessary. It's easy to get carried away with the hype of the shiny new thing around the corner, and getting both sides of the story from people who have actually used Windows 10 can be helpful. It might even be prescient for the July 29th release. Who is to say that every issue people are reporting will be fixed in the next 50 days?
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Last I checked we don't use the latest version, we only use the version they've released to the public.

Also the last update to Windows 10 fixed a ton of stuff.
 
I'm a little unclear on the install process, wouldn't a fresh install be better? Or has everything progressed enough that installing over Windows 7 won't matter?
 
Steve Youngblood said:
We're less than two months away from the final version release. I understand that some may think it's unnecessary that pre-release software isn't as stable as post-release software, but seeing as how Windows 10 is readily available now via Tech and Insider previews, I don't think it is all that unnecessary. It's easy to get carried away with the hype of the shiny new thing around the corner, and getting both sides of the story from people who have actually used Windows 10 can be helpful. It might even be prescient for the July 29th release. Who is to say that every issue people are reporting will be fixed in the next 50 days?
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I get your sentiment but I still think you're a bit off. Software has bugs, pre-release software has more bugs. If the OS was a complete mess then yes it would be relevant but it really isn't (Yes I've used it). Anyone upgrading will most likely be fine, especially if they decide to hold off a couple of weeks after general release.
 
Xiraiya said:
I'm a little unclear on the install process, wouldn't a fresh install be better? Or has everything progressed enough that installing over Windows 7 won't matter?
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Clean install is always better, and it'll be an option once you get your download.
 
When I do the compatibility check it says all my hardware is fine...There is one app that has a problem and that is STEAM. A quick google shows that others in the beta are having problems with steam games just randomly crashing.

So yeah upgrade for lots of reasons but keep an eye on whether this problem gets fixed.

Considering all the applications I have on this machine to have Steam be the only one is a bit disconcerting. MS is not a fan of Steam, its a competitor.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
You're being stupidly and annoyingly pedantic here.
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I'm sorry, do you follow Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley on this subject?

You'd know that the approach they are taking with this is incredibly different then past releases of Windows. This isn't like a normal operating system release and they are currently in the stages of polishing and bug fixing. The last update, 10130, fixed most issues and polished a lot of the UI and that was a week ago. So yes, I do think they are capable of releasing in a stable state in 50 days.

https://www.thurrott.com/

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/

http://twit.tv/show/windows-weekly/416

They say the opposite of what you've claimed.
 
b0bbyJ03 said:
fuck, I'm on Windows 8 Enterprise. Just found out there is no free upgrade for me :(
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If you're on Enterprise it's because your company/school/organization likely has an Enterprise Licensing Agreement, which is generally paid for by the year/month and not per operating system release.

I don't even think it's possible for any organization to buy a single copy of a single version of Windows Enterprise.


Unless you pirated the Enterprise version
 
For me personally, not right away, I'm still hearing about random 1-off issues with the latest preview build, so I'll probably wait until a month or two after it launches before I upgrade.

Also, with no integrated option for recording live TV like you can with Windows Media Server, it's less than ideal for me right now anyway since I use my HD Homerun daily to record OTA shows.
 
Upgraded every release on day 1 since Windows 95. Part of the fun of it is seeing what works and what doesn't and how it improves over time.

Early adopters... if you ain't one don't upgrade at first. But I couldn't imagine not installing the new OS as soon as I could.
 
I've been running the preview builds and it has been surprisingly issue-free for gaming. I tried playing Alpha Protocol and I could not figure out how to get it to work. But everything else has worked fine. For some reason whenever there's a new build the Witcher 3 will fail to run until I re-run some Visual Studio runtime thing, which is weird, and not something you'll have to deal with when it's final.

But I'm weird, I liked Windows 8 once I installed Start8. It was a very good Desktop OS, but people couldn't stop freaking out over lol giant start screen. Their loss.
 
FordGTGuy said:
I'm sorry, do you follow Paul Thurrott and Mary Jo Foley on this subject?

You'd know that the approach they are taking with this is incredibly different then past releases of Windows. This isn't like a normal operating system release and they are currently in the stages of polishing and bug fixing. The last update, 10130, fixed most issues and polished a lot of the UI and that was a week ago. So yes, I do think they are capable of releasing in a stable state in 50 days.
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I'm not saying that they aren't capable of doing it. Really, the release on July 29th may be the most polished OS ever released. I was digging Windows 10 while I was using it. But nVidia hadn't released a driver for my video card, so I rolled back. I still have Windows 10 reserved on all three of my computers barring some disaster.

All I'm saying -- and I can't fathom why this is radical or controversial -- is that people having issues with current pre-release versions are not being unfair in voicing their issues with the product. If everything is fixed between now and release, then great. But for people that might be thinking that this new OS is going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread based on positive testimonials, the negatives ones are worth acknowledging too.

That's not being unfair. Nobody is saying that MS are a bunch of shitty hacks who can't code an OS. But it's silly to say you can't comment on stability in pre-release software because it's a given that every issue will automatically be fixed by release.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
I'm not saying that they aren't capable of doing it. Really, the release on July 29th may be the most polished OS ever released. I was digging Windows 10 while I was using it. But nVidia hadn't released a driver for my video card, so I rolled back. I still have Windows 10 reserved on all three of my computers barring some disaster.

All I'm saying -- and I can't fathom why this is radical or controversial -- is that people having issues with current pre-release versions are not being unfair in voicing their issues with the product. If everything is fixed between now and release, then great. But for people that might be thinking that this new OS is going to be the greatest thing since sliced bread based on positive testimonials, the negatives ones are worth acknowledging too.

That's not being unfair. Nobody is saying that MS are a bunch of shitty hacks who can't code an OS. But it's silly to say you can't comment on stability in pre-release software because it's a given that every issue will automatically be fixed by release.
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So it is unfair to state that I've had the opposite experience?(that's all I was saying.)

I've even been playing old games like KOTOR2 and brand new games like World of Warships with very little problem.

I'm running 10130 and with Windows 10 TP driver on my GTX 760ti.

Windows 10 uses the same driver set as Windows 8 so the chance that any application that worked on 7 or 8 won't work on 10 at launch is incredible slim.

Paul Thurrott said that himself.
 
FordGTGuy said:
So it is unfair to state that I've had the opposite experience?(that's all I was saying.)
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No. Why would you think that? What I called out was basically the people backseat modding the thread to tell Grief that his posts sucked because you aren't allowed to negatively critique pre-release software in any way. I was saying that this isn't a "positive impressions only" thread. It's also not a "negative impressions only" thread. Think Windows 10 is the bees' knees? Gnarly. Tell us about it. But if someone has some issues with their experience, you're not allowed to tell them that their posts suck because all pre-release issues are guaranteed to be fix prior to proper release.
 
I didn't like Windows 8 very much, but the Windows 10 preview is pretty sweet. It will also add game streaming from Xbox One.
 
dLMN8R said:
"Always recommended" by whom?
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Mostly IT blogs but even Microsoft has been recommending it as resolution for issues that popped up during technical preview. It's just a best practice thing, but until I ran into weird driver issues early into the preview I did upgrade from 7 without issue. As with all things your mileage may vary.

Xiraiya said:
I only just recently got Windows 7, so that's unfortunate, but I guess I'll have to format because I'll never be happy until I do a clean install.
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If you only just performed a fresh install of 7, you're probably fine.
 
Sky Chief said:
Yeah, I would like to know this too. I'm on Windows 8.1 Pro I believe and haven't seen any icon or notification.
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The white windows logo left to the flag.
 
Specifically I've been using Win 10 as my main gaming PC since like February. And it was an "upgrade" from my Windows 8.1 install.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
No. Why would you think that? What I called out was basically the people backseat modding the thread to tell Grief that his posts sucked because you aren't allowed to negatively critique pre-release software in any way. I was saying that this isn't a "positive impressions only" thread. It's also not a "negative impressions only" thread. Think Windows 10 is the bees' knees? Gnarly. Tell us about it. But if someone has some issues with their experience, you're not allowed to tell them that their posts suck because all pre-release issues are guaranteed to be fix prior to proper release.
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No because thr op is asking if he should uprgrade when windows 10 is released in ~50 days and grief comes in and says don't upgrade right now.

Then people point out the Op isn't asking about his pre release version of windows 10
 
I wouldn't bother upgrading as soon as it launches in July.

Wait a month or two to see how it's going.

It's free for a year anyway so there's no rush.
 
My m14x r2 was release with windows 7, so i dont see the point into upgrading it to 10. DX12 is not supported by my videocard anyway, so no point.

And im also scared to get a IOS like update that my older machine run less better after. But wondering, was it confirmed i can roll back to 7 if i hate 10 without problem? I might be tempt if itts the case.
 
-SD- said:
It's free.

It also has got the combined power of Windows Display Driver Model 2.0 and DirectX 12.

Go for it.

I did.
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But there is hardly anything out for DirectX 12.

No rush to get into Windows 10. Wait for the first wave of benchmarks comparing various games. And even then, maybe wait for the first few waves of updates. It's free for a year. Let the kinks get ironed out.
 
I've learned to live with the Win 8 metro screen or whatever it's called. It's actually pretty okay. However, I hate every single godforsaken thing that opens in a forced full screen view, such as the calculator, email and all the other games and apps that do that. Hopefully Win 10 will not have forced full screen apps at all

I mean ffs. It's called WINDOWS. And they took away the windows.
 
I'm going to hold off on my PC at home, since I use Windows Media Center extensively (using two Xbox 360s as extenders to watch all my recorded TV shows).

I might upgrade to 10 on my work laptop, but when I upgraded to 8 it broke some software I used for my job. I had to figure out my own workaround until they fixed it on their end a month or so later.
 
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