Upgrade to Windows 10?

I've had Windows 7 since launch and I skipped on Windows 8 simply because I hated the UI and design of the whole thing, Windows 10 is giving me the performance updates and DX12 stuff I want for my PC, plus it comes in shortly after I just upgraded to a GTX 980.

I'm doing it, it's free, why the hell not?

I'll just wait a week or so for the early bugs to be reported and ironed out.
 
Question, does anybody know if my windows 8.1 licence is freed up once I upgrade? I would like to take it and bootcamp the other Mac with 8.1 once my laptop is running 10.
 
I currently have two hard drives.
An SSD where my Windows 7 currently lies (and little ales) with about 27 gb free, and a traditional bug one for the rest of my content and installs.

Will I be able to upgrade to 10 on the same SSD my current windows are?
How much extra space will they eat?
 
Tried the technical preview on one of my computers a couple months ago. Ran like hot garbage and had some driver issues.

That said, I will be installing the RTM asap on both of my PCs.
 
Netherscourge said:
On a side note...

What will Microsoft do if Motherboards become Plug and Play compatible?

Even now, if you know how to tweak drivers for the most basic support, you can swap out a whole mobo and CPU without losing your OS on the HDD/SSD. There are guides that show you how to do this without having to reinstall your OS. What happens to Windows licensing then, when you can upgrade your mobo without having to wipe your OS?

Or does Win 10 have a built-in killswitch that will recognize a mobo switch and auto-disable your existing OS installation?
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http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...ndows-10/5c0b9368-a9e8-4238-b1e4-45f4b7ed2fb9

What happens if I change my motherboard?

As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.

From the end user license agreement:

15. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.

17. TRANSFER TO ANOTHER COMPUTER. a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may transfer the software and install it on another computer for your use. That computer becomes the licensed computer. You may not do so to share this license between computers.
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Now in the EU you are allowed to resell OEM licenses which means they can't be bound to hardware so even that won't apply for many.

Darkspineslayer said:
Question, does anybody know if my windows 8.1 licence is freed up once I upgrade? I would like to take it and bootcamp the other Mac with 8.1 once my laptop is running 10.
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The FAQ mentions that the old license gets 'consumed' so it's reasonable to assume that you can't use both at the same time. Or at least aren't allowed to.
 
What happens if I change my motherboard?

As it pertains to the OEM licenses this will invalidate the Windows 10 upgrade license because it will no longer have a previous base qualifying license which is required for the free upgrade. You will then have to purchase a full retail Windows 10 license. If the base qualifying license (Windows 7 or Windows 8.1) was a full retail version, then yes, you can transfer it.

From the end user license agreement:

15. UPGRADES. To use upgrade software, you must first be licensed for the software that is eligible for the upgrade. Upon upgrade, this agreement takes the place of the agreement for the software you upgraded from. After you upgrade, you may no longer use the software you upgraded from.

17. TRANSFER TO ANOTHER COMPUTER. a. Software Other than Windows Anytime Upgrade. You may transfer the software and install it on another computer for your use. That computer becomes the licensed computer. You may not do so to share this license between computers.
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I think this solves the question of hardware upgrade, then.
 
RobertoSAGuedes said:
I think this solves the question of hardware upgrade, then.
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Again, this doesn't provide any details on HOW exactly this transfer will be accomplished. Will Win7/8 retail keys work with Win10? Will they provide us with Win10 keys in place of our Win7/8? Will we have to call them each time and go through some process of validating our Win7/8 license? HOW?
 
dr_rus said:
Again, this doesn't provide any details on HOW exactly this transfer will be accomplished. Will Win7/8 retail keys work with Win10? Will they provide us with Win10 keys in place of our Win7/8? Will we have to call them each time and go through some process of validating our Win7/8 license? HOW?
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They will still announce that before the release, I'm sure. But at least we don't have to worry about hardware upgrading issues.
 
dr_rus said:
Again, this doesn't provide any details on HOW exactly this transfer will be accomplished. Will Win7/8 retail keys work with Win10? Will they provide us with Win10 keys in place of our Win7/8? Will we have to call them each time and go through some process of validating our Win7/8 license? HOW?
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https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/3898/a-few-more-answers-about-windows-10-upgrades

But what if you want to do a “real” clean install?

Microsoft tells me that it will be possible to do so. And that a key part of this process is that it will save a product key tied to the previously upgraded PC or device in Windows Store. This is how Windows 10 will later know that the install is allowed: It’s “one of the benefits of the new delivery system,” a Microsoft representative told me.
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dr_rus said:
So my product key will be tied to my Microsoft Account? Okay, what happens if I register more than one key on one account? I personally have three of them currently and all of them are different (Win 7 Ultimate Boxed, Win 8 Pro Digital Retail, Win 8 SL OEM).
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Considering they talk about multiple computers many times and a license can't be shared between two or more, I imagine you'll need to select based on the name you chose for each PC/laptop.
 
RobertoSAGuedes said:
Considering they talk about multiple computers many times and a license can't be shared between two or more, I imagine you'll need to select based on the name you chose for each PC/laptop.
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Select which license out of all I have in my account I want to apply to each Windows installation? That would be cool although I foresee some disgruntled guys who won't like using MS account for licensing.

There's a discussion there on that same topic actually.
 
dr_rus said:
Select which license out of all I have in my account I want to apply to each Windows installation? That would be cool although I foresee some disgruntled guys who won't like using MS account for licensing.

There's a discussion there on that same topic actually.
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I certainly don't like it. I managed for such a long time to get by without making a microsoft account. I will have to carefully consider now whether I actually want to upgrade.
 
I did it with the previous preview version. It was not completely stable, but it has vastly improved since Windows 8.1. Only catch was that my Logitech Wireless receiver didnt work.
 
We have three windows 7 machines in the house, of various power/age, but I don't really play complex games on them. I don't see much appeal in upgrading.

Is there anything good that I'm missing out on with windows 10?
 
dock said:
We have three windows 7 machines in the house, of various power/age, but I don't really play complex games on them. I don't see much appeal in upgrading.

Is there anything good that I'm missing out on with windows 10?
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Windows 8(.1) had performance improvements, despite the broken UI. By upgrading to 10, you'll get those improvements, and UI will still be quite familiar.
 
akileese said:
Just a heads up but neither option 2 or 3 worked for me. Haven't tried 4 yet.
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Did not work for me earlier either. What I did was manually fixing it.

Windows 10 update app requires the following updates on your OS.

Windows 7 SP1, and
KB3035583
KB2952664

Windows 8.1, and
KB3035583
KB2976978

After that I ran a cmd/bat (elevated/adminmode) file containing.

Code: 
REG QUERY "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\UpgradeExperienceIndicators" /v UpgEx | findstr UpgEx

if "%errorlevel%" == "0" GOTO RunGWX

reg add "HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\AppCompatFlags\Appraiser" /v UtcOnetimeSend /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

:CompatCheckRunning

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser"

schtasks /query /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience\Microsoft Compatibility Appraiser" | findstr Ready

if NOT "%errorlevel%" == "0" ping localhost >nul &goto :CompatCheckRunning

:RunGWX

schtasks /run /TN "\Microsoft\Windows\Setup\gwx\refreshgwxconfig"

And the Windows 10 update app icon showed up almost instantly.

Source: http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...10-but-i/848b5cce-958b-49ae-a132-a999a883265b
 
RobertoSAGuedes said:
So probably attached to your Windows account. As soon as you request the transfer, it disables the key from your old installation.
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Tied to unique hardware id more likely.
If it's retail it won't care, only if more than one machine contacts MS under the same license, which even then MS rarely deactivate the PC/s.
 
DrRussian said:
I'm pretty sure that windows 10 will be to windows 8 what 7 was to vista. So I say yes to updating since it's free.
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Dude, 8 isn't anywhere close to the catastrophy that was Vista.

The only thing wrong with Win 8 is Metro and the lack of a start menu. Both are very easily fixed within a few minutes.
 
Anyone know if people running the technical preview will be able to just run a Windows Update to get the final version (after putting in a Win7 or whatever key), or will I need to reformat and reinstall?
 
Windows 7/8 users have DirectX 12-capable
hardware (actually, it’s some number greater
than 50%, according to Microsoft, but apparently
not high enough to note the difference). And
even if they do have capable hardware, he says,
that doesn’t mean their hardware will perform
well, and there’s no guarantee they’ll all upgrade
to Windows 10 even if it’s free. Lots of people,
myself included, are perfectly happy with
Windows 7.
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Source

Personally, the upgrade won't happen on 29th July. Could be a month or two before I make that move. In the meantime, 7 is working fine for me. I never even bothered with 8 although I did mess around with 8.1.


Generally, the release after a publicly favoured one is something I avoid. So, I had XP, avoided Vista, I have 7, never touched 8 so I probably will get into 10 and unless otherwise, ignore the one right after that, should it ever even come.
 
Will this finally provide a solution for dual screen gaming where I can still use the extra screen independently for streaming and chats?
 
I have a dual-boot system of 8.1 with Ubuntu on the same SSD. Do you guys think that upgrading to 10 will mess with the Ubuntu installation at all? I expect it to mess with the bootloader, but I would also expect that to be easily fixable.
 
FordGTGuy said:
So it is unfair to state that I've had the opposite experience?(that's all I was saying.)

I've even been playing old games like KOTOR2 and brand new games like World of Warships with very little problem.

I'm running 10130 and with Windows 10 TP driver on my GTX 760ti.

Windows 10 uses the same driver set as Windows 8 so the chance that any application that worked on 7 or 8 won't work on 10 at launch is incredible slim.

Paul Thurrott said that himself.
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You remind me of my children.

Whenever I'm making a point concerning the action of one child, one of the other two will usually chime in with, "but I wasn't doing that! I've been good!"

Its like they think I'm targeting and attacking them rather than explaining what the other one was doing. Funny.



Edit: Negative feedback is welcome. It absolutely is, ESPECIALLY since this is pre-release software (hell, MS has feedback tools for that reason). Your positive feedback isn't what the moderator jumped in for; it was to defend the negative feedback posted by grief.exe from being ridiculed by posts boiling down to an unhelpful "DUH!"
 
dock said:
We have three windows 7 machines in the house, of various power/age, but I don't really play complex games on them. I don't see much appeal in upgrading.

Is there anything good that I'm missing out on with windows 10?
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Future security updates if nothing else, once w7 eventually moves out of support.

For me, really great OneDrive integration is an absolute killer feature - didn't see a huge benefit before I had it, now I can't cope without it.

Streaming Xbox games to the PC.

Really fast boot times.

Generally everything is just that bit more refined, and base performance is better too.

Cortana integration in W10 is cool & useful.

Personally a huge fan of the w10 start menu - like the w7 one but with live tiles too. Best of both worlds IMO.




Win7 is an awesome desktop system - but W10 just feels that bit more refined, performance and has good integration with ms' online services that are genuinely useful.
 
Bold One said:
its been a struggle

anyone got any solutions, tried using boarders and such but no luck, the whole thing comes crashing down
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I can confirm that this has been resolved in Windows10. When clikcing on the desktop in the 2nd monitor the game's sounds gets muted but still stays on.
 
So,

Bought Windows 8 with the infamous 14$ deal on MS store back in the day.
That counts as a full license i can transfer to a new PC in case i upgrade, right ?

Also, i have a pipox7 with Win 8.1 license. During setup i told it to sync with my desktop settings and apps using the same account. That still counts as OEM license though, doesn't it ? Although in this case it is tied to hardware and can't be transferred ?

Also, I'd like to change that and have it "behave like a new PC". Is it possible to do that now, do i have to refresh/reinstall ? Still not sure a refresh is going to work on that machine.
 
Condom said:
I can confirm that this has been resolved in Windows10. When clikcing on the desktop in the 2nd monitor the game's sounds gets muted but still stays on.
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