Upgrade to Windows 10?

Well, at some point, especially if Windows 10 keeps being a service, updates for the previous versions will be stopped.

I guess "forced" in that you want a new Windows machine and they no longer sell old versions of Windows. But why would you buy Windows at that point? There are other OS's out there.
 
You can turn a lot of stuff off during the installation or from settings > privacy. Also turn both of the options HERE off.

It's hard to say how much or little stuff the PC will still collect, but this should bring you at least some peace of mind. I'm going to stay optimistic and believe that with everything turned off, 10 won't collect any more information than 8.1 would have.

Both of the options there don't have a single effect on how much they mine, it just means the ads you get aren't personalized so it is easier to stick your head in the sand.

But yes you are right about the compared to 8.1 part.

I guess "forced" in that you want a new Windows machine and they no longer sell old versions of Windows. But why would you buy Windows at that point? There are other OS's out there.

Forced in the way that it is insecure to use an OS when support has expired, but that is a long time from now.
 
Anybody else get some random short freezes? Like, I'll click a link on Steam or Chrome or something and occasionally it will just hang up for a few.

I don't get these freezes but having a 144hz monitor now and I just can't stand the laggy scrolling of Firefox and Steam, it's all stuttery and slow, feels just bad. Browsing edge on the contrary is smooth as butter.

I'm aware there's a framerate thing you can change in the about:config settings of firefox but even putting it to 0 and it never feels as smooth as Edge.
I previously even had tearing on my old monitor while going through my library using Grid view in Steam, now it's gone but it's just laggy as shit.

I want that smoothness of the windows mail app everywhere, when you're typing there compared to firefox it's a world of difference.
 
I did some searching and didn't see any posts that noted a problem I'm having. I've downloaded the latest GeForce driver, 353.62, but when I try to install it I get an error message saying the driver isn't compatible with my version of windows (Windows 10). I double checked and my video card, 560M, is on the compatibility list. I'm not sure what to do...
 
Hrmm my Titan X is not downcocking on the desktop and is maintaining near 3D clocks (1000mhz) and near full clocks on the VRAM as well.

Anyone else ahving this problem?
 
So I upgraded first to make sure things worked, and found out my Creative Labs headset didn't work correctly (works as plain usb headset, no sound enhancements, no equalizer). Creative Labs lists September as the probable date for updated software. I then did a clean install since I'm going to stick with 10, and then the same software installed fine and now works. I guess something happened.
 
Hrmm my Titan X is not downcocking on the desktop and is maintaining near 3D clocks (1000mhz) and near full clocks on the VRAM as well.

Anyone else ahving this problem?

144Hz monitor? It's doing this to my main card as well if desktop if set at that refresh rate.
 
Reading some confusing claims that Windows 10 is not free after all, and its only tied to your hardware (Motherboard). So after the free upgrade year has past, and if your PC decides to die, you have to pay to install Windows 10 if you wish to use it again on a new PC?

I thought seeing as i own a 7 pro retail key, and also a 8 pro retail key, by upgrading to 10 within the first year, my 7 and 8 pro keys are now flagged to be able to upgrade to 10 whenever i need it.

I'm not expecting to be able to install Win 10 off the bat, but if i get a new machine sometime within a year or two, i would be able to install 7 or 8 again, and then upgrade to 10.

Its so confusing...
 
Hrmm my Titan X is not downcocking on the desktop and is maintaining near 3D clocks (1000mhz) and near full clocks on the VRAM as well.

Anyone else ahving this problem?
144Hz monitor?

120HZ monitor (so the driver would not do that afaik), Windows 7 went to 2d clocks always @ 120hz desktop.
 
Hrmm my Titan X is not downcocking on the desktop and is maintaining near 3D clocks (1000mhz) and near full clocks on the VRAM as well.

Anyone else ahving this problem?

See what else you have running in the background. Witcher 3 was staying in RAM, even after I closed it. Repairing the install seems to have fixed that. Another issue I had was that the OSD software with EVGA Precision X software was loading, and it kept clock speeds up (not max).
 
Hrmm my Titan X is not downcocking on the desktop and is maintaining near 3D clocks (1000mhz) and near full clocks on the VRAM as well.

Anyone else ahving this problem?


120HZ monitor, Windows 7 went to 2d clocks always.

Could be the new drivers, I was fine at 144hz, dual monitor, SLI setup on the previous Windows 8.1 drivers but seems these 353.62 are a stinker. Just check the Geforce forums with all users reporting a huge list of problems in games...
 
Reading some confusing claims that Windows 10 is not free after all, and its only tied to your hardware (Motherboard). So after the free upgrade year has past, and if your PC decides to die, you have to pay to install Windows 10 if you wish to use it again on a new PC?

I thought seeing as i own a 7 pro retail key, and also a 8 pro retail key, by upgrading to 10 within the first year, my 7 and 8 pro keys are now flagged to be able to upgrade to 10 whenever i need it.

I'm not expecting to be able to install Win 10 off the bat, but if i get a new machine sometime within a year or two, i would be able to install 7 or 8 again, and then upgrade to 10.

Its so confusing...

If you get a new PC it will already have Windows 10 on it.
 
Reading some confusing claims that Windows 10 is not free after all, and its only tied to your hardware (Motherboard). So after the free upgrade year has past, and if your PC decides to die, you have to pay to install Windows 10 if you wish to use it again on a new PC?

I thought seeing as i own a 7 pro retail key, and also a 8 pro retail key, by upgrading to 10 within the first year, my 7 and 8 pro keys are now flagged to be able to upgrade to 10 whenever i need it.

I'm not expecting to be able to install Win 10 off the bat, but if i get a new machine sometime within a year or two, i would be able to install 7 or 8 again, and then upgrade to 10.

Its so confusing...

I imagine if you have an OEM license you continue to have an OEM license, if you have a full license you continue to have a full license. If not that's kind of shitty.
 
See what else you have running in the background. Witcher 3 was staying in RAM, even after I closed it. Repairing the install seems to have fixed that. Another issue I had was that the OSD software with EVGA Precision X software was loading, and it kept clock speeds up (not max).

Could be the new drivers, I was fine at 144hz, dual monitor, SLI setup on the previous Windows 8.1 drivers but seems these 353.62 are a stinker. Just check the Geforce forums with all users reporting a huge list of problems in games...

I am thinking the drivers just may be overly sensitive now and problematic (either that or windows 10 requires more GPU oomph for desktop performance, hence how the GPU clocks up more often).

Restarting it got rid of the constant 3d clocks, but now it is upticking to 3d clocks waaaaay more often and sporadically when I load a new web page or when I switch programs:
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Look how spiky the graph is. That is just what happens when loading a new webpage... that cannot be right.
 
New machine will be built by me, so i'll be using my retail keys to install Windows.
Sounds like the free upgrade is only available for the 1st year. After that, you will have to pay to upgrade to 10. So, you would want to use your 7 & 8 keys and upgrade them to 10 within the year.
 
Finally got Windows 10 to install. Had to use the registry hack (thanks to the poster of that one!) to get past the "Something Happened" and then run a command line repair to get past a Windows Update Error message. And then manually install Nvidia's latest Win10 driver.

So more or less a bloodbath but things seem working fine now.
 
I'm finding the edge browser more CPU intensive as my fans spin up on more occasions than chrome. I also find when l open a new tab there's no caret in the search box so have to click in the box before l type. I wish the address bar could be used as default to search from.

Otherwise it's a good browser, with plugin support for ad blocking it should be an ideal replacement to chrome. I still use edge as default though now.

The revised start bar with search box is great. I need need to find a short cut key to move the charet there so l can start searching without using my mouse.

Otherwise it's a more polished windows 8 with a start menu.

Can't wait to see some dx12 optimised games.
 
Anyone with a Xonar DG sound card able to get that app to work?
Google unified xonar drivers and use those instead. They work great.


Mine is done. Had to reinstall my R9 290 drivers and I still have an unknown device in device manager.
Might be your controller. I had to reinstall wirelwss 360 adapter drivers.





Lol I've been loving windows 10 so much so far it depresses me to see so many people scared to upgrade cause random people having random ass problems that most likely aren't even win10 fault.
 
Just upgraded on my laptop as a test run for the main PC. Went smoothly. I still kind of hate the Start Menu. I never, ever use those apps and live tiles are just annoying distractions. All of my news and organising ecosystem is through Chrome and Dropbox already.

Apart from that it's pretty nice. The charms crap is gone and the action centre is like a beefed up smartphone pulldown menu which makes sense when you think about how they want to unify all their devices under one OS.
 
Reading some confusing claims that Windows 10 is not free after all, and its only tied to your hardware (Motherboard). So after the free upgrade year has past, and if your PC decides to die, you have to pay to install Windows 10 if you wish to use it again on a new PC?

I thought seeing as i own a 7 pro retail key, and also a 8 pro retail key, by upgrading to 10 within the first year, my 7 and 8 pro keys are now flagged to be able to upgrade to 10 whenever i need it.

I'm not expecting to be able to install Win 10 off the bat, but if i get a new machine sometime within a year or two, i would be able to install 7 or 8 again, and then upgrade to 10.

Its so confusing...

No, it works just like it did with Windows 7 and 8. OEM keys are tied with hardware. Those are the ones you get from laptops and pre-built machines. But if you have a retail copy or upgrade from your 7/8.1 key, you can use it as many times as you want and on any hardware, as long as it is only being used in one PC at a time.

So yes, you can format/upgrade as much as you want and then use the same Windows 10 key again. Just be careful, since it's not the same key as Windows 7 or 8.1. After you upgrade, use a key finder software like Belarc Advisor to write it down.
 
Am I the only one who gets a hickup whenever playing mkv files via windows media player ?
How did Microsoft fuck up the "old" media player so much ? Look at this shit after returning to the task after quite some time...

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I'm worried that my Xbox 360 controller won't work, if I upgrade to Windows 10.

Also worried about Office 2007 and Plex Media Server.
 
Getting a bad_system_config_info error. Cannot even boot into safe mode anymore? Resetting while keeping my data from the repair menu fails. Any suggestions?
 
Am I the only one who gets a hickup whenever playing mkv files via windows media player ?
How did Microsoft fuck up the "old" media player so much ? Look at this shit after returning to the task after quite some time...

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VLC will play anything. Unless you're sticking with windows media player for a specific reason then it's a very good alternative.
 
VLC will play anything. Unless you're sticking with windows media player for a specific reason then it's a very good alternative.
Yeah, I have VLC installed too. Will use that until Microsoft fixed those bugs. Btw that new Entertainment whatever app has the same hickup starting .mkv files.
 
Reading some confusing claims that Windows 10 is not free after all, and its only tied to your hardware (Motherboard). So after the free upgrade year has past, and if your PC decides to die, you have to pay to install Windows 10 if you wish to use it again on a new PC?

I thought seeing as i own a 7 pro retail key, and also a 8 pro retail key, by upgrading to 10 within the first year, my 7 and 8 pro keys are now flagged to be able to upgrade to 10 whenever i need it.

I'm not expecting to be able to install Win 10 off the bat, but if i get a new machine sometime within a year or two, i would be able to install 7 or 8 again, and then upgrade to 10.

Its so confusing...

It depends what version you bought. OEM or "System Builder" versions are tied to the motherboard. If you bought the retail version you can transfer the license between PCs. That's the way I've read it works anyway.

If your motherboard does die you can phone Microsoft to activate it, or you build a new pc and say your motherboard died..
 
I'm finding the edge browser more CPU intensive as my fans spin up on more occasions than chrome. I also find when l open a new tab there's no caret in the search box so have to click in the box before l type. I wish the address bar could be used as default to search from.

Otherwise it's a good browser, with plugin support for ad blocking it should be an ideal replacement to chrome. I still use edge as default though now.

The revised start bar with search box is great. I need need to find a short cut key to move the charet there so l can start searching without using my mouse.

Otherwise it's a more polished windows 8 with a start menu.

Can't wait to see some dx12 optimised games.

just tapping the windows key puts you in the search bar. it also opens up the start menu, obviously.
 
I am thinking the drivers just may be overly sensitive now and problematic (either that or windows 10 requires more GPU oomph for desktop performance, hence how the GPU clocks up more often).

Restarting it got rid of the constant 3d clocks, but now it is upticking to 3d clocks waaaaay more often and sporadically when I load a new web page or when I switch programs:

Look how spiky the graph is. That is just what happens when loading a new webpage... that cannot be right.

My card never wants to go down to idle clocks, which is annoying because my temps should be almost 15C lower at idle when it clocks down like normal. 60Hz or 144Hz makes no difference, stays the same all the time. Same goes for using 1 or 2 monitors.

I have tried using the Multi Display Power Saver in Nvidia Inspector, but that gives me a bunch of weird artifacts and stuff when it does go under load. If it wasn't for that, it would've worked perfectly forcing it to keep low clocks unless GPU usage goes above a certain threshold.

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Yeah, I have VLC installed too. Will use that until Microsoft fixed those bugs. Btw that new Entertainment whatever app has the same hickup starting .mkv files.

From what I remember, MS has always been flaky when it comes to MKV files. One of the reasons I gave up on their built-in players and editors.
 
windows 10 seems pretty speedy atm
which is a big surprise since most of these upgrades just screw everything up for me

Microsoft edge is also pretty quick with loading pages
liking it a lot so far
 
I haven't had any issues so far. Never thought an upgrade would be smooth like this!

I only have two annoyances so far; the all-white windows and the fact that I can't have normal shortcuts in the Start-menu like used to.

I mean, why have all this empty space? It's a perfect space for the apps I want to use often.

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