If my memory serves correctly you were happy that you were now able to buy expensive meat now that you got on food stamps. For someone who doesn't get govt assistance and can't afford expensive meat it doesn't sit well. I'm not PMing you because I really don't care that much. I'm guessing that's the reason you didn't receive any PMs.
Upper body strength regulates mens assertion of self-interest, say social scientists
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If my memory serves correctly you were happy that you were now able to buy expensive meat now that you got on food stamps. For someone who doesn't get govt assistance and can't afford expensive meat it doesn't sit well. I'm not PMing you because I really don't care that much. I'm guessing that's the reason you didn't receive any PMs.
Oh man, I remember learning about ordinary least squares regression and testing significance. I forgot the details though :\
One thing I noticed is that they reported one-tailed p-values, and I'm not sure why. They reported two-tailed p-values for the women though. LOL?
Edit: Just read up on it, F-tests are normally one-tailed tests in ANOVA. So at least that part makes sense. Still, the women's results are two-tailed?
Haha somehow I missed this.
many places
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It seems that is the case in most of life. I guess more confidence?
zero shift
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I don't really see what's wrong with him using food stamps to actually eat good. Especially since the government already gave him the $200 or so.
Chances are, if he can't afford chicken or steak, he can't most likely afford other things as well.
Its not like he's buying lobster and caviar.
Angelus Errare
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You win this time.
Alright, I'm in. Lets go take their money.
You're salty because another man gets to eat meat. You ever stop and think maybe you're living life wrong?
You're salty because another man gets to eat meat. You ever stop and think maybe you're living life wrong?
I don't give a shit what he eats but when someone is eating a filet mignon (I don't remember what cut it was) and collecting govt assistance something is wrong.
By living the wrong life do you mean not collecting food stamps? Yeah, I'm good but thanks for your concern.
Memetic alternative: Do you even social labor?
Synth_floyd
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Conservatism = not wanting change. Being strong = being powerful. Powerful people don't want change. Makes perfect sense.
Devolution
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OMG he got a cut of prime cut of meat once on his food stamps. Just listen to yourself.
actually I mean, what things you let bother you.
you're mad because he's eating steak. this isn't the great depression, dude. Sure it's a prime cut of beef, but your beef makes it seem like you want the man to be on dogfood. If someone isn't abusing the system, do you even have the right to be upset about it? I don't think you do. Or are you one of the ones that thinks using the system abusing it?
vv: Nixon was a bully. And Teddy wasn't afraid to pull tax dollars to create great conservational parks for recreation, because he was also something of a greenie.
It's cool, I paid taxes and said it was okay.
How am I supposed to know how many times he bought it? He brought up the fact that he bought it with his food stamps he just received. People commented. I'm not losing sleep over how many times he did it or where the money came from. It came off to some as taking advantage of the system. If he was misrepresented then so be it. Who cares. I'm done. I was mostly giving a voice to fitGAF because he slighted them in his post.
Devolution
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Does it even matter how many times? It's money that can't be used to purchase anything but food and yet here you are crying about him buying food. lol. How can he take advantage of the system on 200 a month? There's no way in fuck you can buy premium shit for every single night of the week especially if you want to eat other meals. Maybe get some insight into how it works? Sure is abusing the system, buying food with a card you can only buy food with.
It's the principal. That's all I have to say. Good night.
Devolution
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What principal? Yeah no actual argument, figures.
Necromanti
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How does a study like this even get published?
Also, these lines confounded me:
Also, I'm not sure what they mean by "big biceps". Are they talking about one's natural potential or just people that work out their arms more?
Also, these lines confounded me:
Are they saying that all biologists are "liberal", and would be "annoyed" that they claim that there is an evolutionary correlation between physical strength and conservatism?
Also, I'm not sure what they mean by "big biceps". Are they talking about one's natural potential or just people that work out their arms more?
What are you? His girlfriend or something? Oh wait...Jesus, the principal of taking money for doing nothing when you don't need it. If you are starving and malnourished that 200 could buy you enough food to break out of the poor nutrition cycle you are on. Instead, he used it for expensive meat that could have been used to feed him for 3 nights. I have 3 kids and do the shopping, I know how far 200 dollars can go to feed someone.
I mean it this time, good night.
Hours Left
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This is a weird study. I'm not sure how strength has anything to do with it when they are also correlating everything to the individual's level of wealth.
It seems like the money aspect has far more to do with it.
It seems like the money aspect has far more to do with it.
But see, that's what people find ridiculous. Why, in principal, should someone not be able to use food stamps to get a steak, if they can make it work? What exactly is there about that that is so awful?
Because I really can't see it. It's not particularly charitable, but it usually looks to me like the principal is that conservatives are upset that someone using food stamps has managed to eat higher-quality food than what they're eating, even if only for a night. Essentially: this person is supposed to be poor, how dare they eat something tasty?
Hate to psychoanalyze people or give considerable credence to this 'study', but -most- of the people that I know personally who lift regularly are pretty conservative. Particularly the ones whom I would characterize as meatheads or dudebros. In fact, the only real harden liberals are probably my close friends - who just weight train sporadically.
Man I got respect for you from some or your posts in FitGaf, but this is a pretty idiotic mentality.
Man I got respect for you from some or your posts in FitGaf, but this is a pretty idiotic mentality.
Necromanti
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As Cooter more or less says, the principle is that getting benefits from social programs is a moral failing. It's the same reason so many lower middle-class people believe that it's wrong to, say, take charity, or declare bankruptcy. It's just the other end of the prosperity gospel -- if being rich makes you a good person, then you can't ever let anybody know that you're poor, or they'll know that you're a bad person, and if somebody does reveal that they're poor it means they're unredeemable -- unless they show their remorse by suffering as much as possible.
You don't really think a healthy society would allow people to sleep in the streets, do you? It would be impossible to justify such inaction on the part of our society unless it was generally accepted that poor people deserved to suffer.
Devolution
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Does he complain about obesity ever? Because that will make this even more funny.
Oh, right. That did feel a little weird.
Yeah my anecdotal experience supports this as well. Seems like most of the female lifters at my gym are conservative as well though. Of course I live in AZ so that could be it.
Girl was wearing a pink "I plead the 2nd" shirt the other day with an AR-15 on it....actually found it kind of sexy..
It's just ....embarrassingly bizarre. I just imagine some dude carrying a stress ball around Wal Mart or raging at people for using coupons at Golden Corral.
This makes absolutely no sense. I really don't even know where to begin.
How the hell do you know what he's doing? Are you psychic? Have you investigated him thoroughly? For all you really know - he's a full time student who can't find steady work. Perhaps he's just been laid off or doesn't make enough at his current job. Regardless, who are you to decide he doesn't 'need' protein.
Really crass and downright buffoonish generalization.
Completely irrelevant and doesn't add any weight or support your 'principal' in any way.
God forbid he wanted to enjoy a nice meal! Surely this poor disadvantaged sap should stick to eating noodles and butter each and every meal.
Again, completely irrelevant - adds nothing to the discussion. You're better than this man. Really disappointed by these comments.
I had just been talking about how I had to drink tons of milk as my main source of food because it was cheap, and people in the fitgaf thread were telling me how stupid that was, which lead me to apply for foodstamps. Then I was like "yay I can buy meat now" (didn't list the cut, I don't think I had bought any at that point, but even if I did it doesn't matter).
Of course no one cared. They cared as far as it served their own ego to berate me publicly, and no further.
Of course no one cared. They cared as far as it served their own ego to berate me publicly, and no further.
speculawyer
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They are just trying to trick conservatives into believing in evolution by flattering them.
GregLombardi
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Umm. No.
Wow. What a flawed conclusion. All they have demonstrated is that those who are biologically gifted with a strong physique prefer to compete and win their game over having it distributed evenly...because they can.
They didn't even control for this!
Something Wicked
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Haha, I know where you were inspired to post this study, Ripclawe. I considered posting it as well, though I figured "Eh, this is going to rustle many jimmies here. Maybe someone like Ripclawe will do it first."
Anyway, I would state, as the study does, the comparison is more so between physical strength and "individualism," as opposed to a more broad "political conservatism." From the study, being physically stronger generally means you have the ability to rely much less on the government.
For many outside of gaming forums, this study is kind of stating the obvious. However, I understand this comparison really hits many guys on the left-side of the political spectrum to their cores, as it essentially implies "you believe in many of your ideals because you're weak." And that also explains why many are pretending to not understand the study's hypothesis, as understandably, really no guy, straight or gay, likes to be viewed as a "pussy."
Nevertheless, I'd say one's mental strength can easily compensate for lack of physical strength and then some, as far as being able to live a more independent life. Then again, envy of physical strength and individualism of others can limit one's potential mental strength as well.
Anyway, I would state, as the study does, the comparison is more so between physical strength and "individualism," as opposed to a more broad "political conservatism." From the study, being physically stronger generally means you have the ability to rely much less on the government.
For many outside of gaming forums, this study is kind of stating the obvious. However, I understand this comparison really hits many guys on the left-side of the political spectrum to their cores, as it essentially implies "you believe in many of your ideals because you're weak." And that also explains why many are pretending to not understand the study's hypothesis, as understandably, really no guy, straight or gay, likes to be viewed as a "pussy."
Nevertheless, I'd say one's mental strength can easily compensate for lack of physical strength and then some, as far as being able to live a more independent life. Then again, envy of physical strength and individualism of others can limit one's potential mental strength as well.
zero shift
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Is anybody actually READING the study? It does not say that meatheads are more conservative than other people. It says that meatheads tend to tought their self-interests.
I always find it hilarious when people are disgusted with those on government assistance but then cry and bitch about their college grants, social security, or tax "refunds" being cut.
I can't say I feel bad for him since the upperclass literally stole all the wealth the lower classes were suppose to get from this country.
Just because some get all (probably not) of their money through a paycheck (which we all have to pay as well) doesn't really mean much when they pretty much hijacked all the gains. In reality when the incoming wealth isn't well distributed to the middle and lower classes it tends to stack up at the top. That money has to go somewhere.
That's not what he buys. The duder was just exaggerating. Timedog never said what he was eating, just that he got steaks.
I always find it hilarious when people are disgusted with those on government assistance but then cry and bitch about their college grants, social security, or tax "refunds" being cut.
I can't say I feel bad for him since the upperclass literally stole all the wealth the lower classes were suppose to get from this country.
Just because some get all (probably not) of their money through a paycheck (which we all have to pay as well) doesn't really mean much when they pretty much hijacked all the gains. In reality when the incoming wealth isn't well distributed to the middle and lower classes it tends to stack up at the top. That money has to go somewhere.
That's not what he buys. The duder was just exaggerating. Timedog never said what he was eating, just that he got steaks.
hmm, if the person qualifies for food stamps, he should be able to use them to buy whatever food that person wants... however spending food stamps on porterhouse steaks, foi gras and caviar doesn't seem very prudent. You could have so many chicken breasts and cans of tuna to feed dem gains for the same money.
I beg to disagree with this. There are many people who use their empathy to fuel their own egos, see also all types of white knights or the retarded Facebook images of an African kid starving with the "like dis if ur against hunger" type of catpions.
It is emotional intelligence rather than raw empathy per se the tool that mantains the ego at bay. Feeling and showing empathy per se does not equals to actually helping someone, much less curbing your own ego.
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Cameron122
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Then why am I not a socialist?
Half and half
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So basically, liberals are a bunch of betas?
Wtf?
Psychotext
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Should have measured testosterone levels and IQ for the hell of it too.
That's what the wonderlic test is for.
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