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Uruguay has fully legalized marijuana.

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Plasmid

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MONTEVIDEO, Uruguay (AP) — Uruguay's Senate approved the world's first national marketplace for legal marijuana Tuesday, an audacious and risky experiment that puts the government in charge of growing, selling and using a drug that is illegal almost everywhere else.

The vote was 16 to 13, with the governing Broad Front majority united in favor. The plan now awaits the signature of President Jose Mujica, who wants the market to begin operating next year.

Two-thirds of Uruguayans oppose a government-run marijuana industry, according to opinion polls. But Mujica said he's convinced the global drug war is a failure and feels bureaucrats can do a better job of containing addictions and beating organized crime than police, soldiers and prison guards.

"Today is an historic day. Many countries of Latin America, and many governments, will take this law as an example," cheered Sen. Constanza Moreira, voting with the Broad Front majority.

Uruguay's drug control agency will have 120 days, until mid-April, to draft regulations imposing state control over the entire market for marijuana, from seed to smoke.

Everyone involved must be licensed and registered, with government monitors enforcing limits such as the 40 grams a month any adult will be able to buy at pharmacies for any reason or the six marijuana plants that license-holders will be allowed to grow at home.


Congress' lower house approved the bill in late July, and senators rejected all proposed amendments, enforcing party discipline before Tuesday's debate to assure the outcome.

Former Health Minister Alfredo Solari, a Colorado Party senator, warned Tuesday that children and adolescents will more easily get their hands on pot and that "the effects of this policy on public health will be terrible."

But Sen. Roberto Conde, a former deputy foreign minister with the Broad Front, said marijuana "is already established in Uruguay. It's a drug that is already seen as very low risk and enormously easy to get."

Mujica, a 78-year-old former leftist guerrilla who spent years in jail while many others experimented with marijuana, said the goal is to reduce drug use. A government ad campaign launched Friday makes the same point, warning of pot smoking's dangers to human health.

"This is not liberalization of marijuana. It can be consumed within certain parameters established by law. I think it will reduce consumption," Sen. Luis Gallo, a retired doctor who favored the bill, told The Associated Press.

The government got help from a national TV campaign and other lobbying efforts supporting by billionaire currency speculator and philanthropist George Soros and his Open Society Foundation and Drug Policy Alliance. In September, Mujica met with Soros and billionaire David Rockefeller in New York to explain his "experiment."

These deep-pocketed connections drew criticism from Mujica's opponents.

"I would say to Mr. Soros, to Mr. Rockefeller, and to the president of the republic that you don't experiment with the Uruguayans. We are not guinea pigs," Colorado Party Sen. Pedro Bordaberry said Tuesday.

Hannah Hetzer, a lobbyist for the Alliance who moved to Montevideo for the campaign, watched closely from the Senate gallery.

"Uruguay is seeking an alternative to a failed model. I think that this is the beginning of the end of a prohibitionist model and the beginning of a more intelligent focus," she said.

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Associated Press writer Michael Warren in Buenos Aires, Argentina, contributed to this report.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/09/uruguay-legalizes-marijua_n_4415245.html

Very historic day, for uruguay and the world. We're going to see how a government can run a up until now illegal trade.

Thoughts?

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Adding an older link to Marijuana price in Uruguay set to $1/gram

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/oct/22/uruguay-legal-cannabis-1-dollar-gram
 

ShdwDrake

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SUPREME1

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Only because they don't have old white men in power who look out for their interests first, ahead of what makes sense for the country as a whole.

One day.
 

DiscoJer

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It's a good step, but excess regulation could be harmful. And really isn't needed, it's not like you can overdose on it.
 

Buzzman

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I'm torn on this issue, while I don't like the hypocrisy that marijuana is illegal and cigarettes/alcohol aren't, I'd rather we move forward to reduce usage of current toxins instead of legalizing already banned substances.
 

jchap

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As long as the state gets to profit off it to offset the increase in lung cancer and other social ills then its all good
 

Plasmid

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I'm in favor of legalization, but 100% state control from seed to sale? Uh-uh. That's crazy.

The upside is that they made marijuana $1/gram. The state control is to avoid abuse, i think it's great that they're treating it somewhat like alcohol.

I'm torn on this issue, while I don't like the hypocrisy that marijuana is illegal and cigarettes/alcohol aren't, I'd rather we move forward to reduce usage of current toxins instead of legalizing already banned substances.

Substances that are banned on the basis of "this country made it illegal so we should too".

Marijuana has very little detrimental effects, and those detrimental effects so far are only proven to be when people smoke from a young developing age that reduces the amount of white matter production in the brain.

The only reason it's not legal is because it hurts big pharma, big corporations, and it's impossible to patent.

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Buzzman

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Oh please, let's not fool ourselves into thinking that legalizing marjiuana is suddenly going to revolutionize the Agricultural/textile/paper industries.

I think it's far simpler than that, Alcohol and Tobacco have been used for so long it's been ingrained into society. Cannabis never got that far before medical regulations started kicking in.
 

eosos

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Oh please, let's not fool ourselves into thinking that legalizing marjiuana is suddenly going to revolutionize the Agricultural/textile/paper industries.

I think it's far simpler than that, Alcohol and Tobacco have been used for so long it's been ingrained into society. Cannabis never got that far before medical regulations started kicking in.
What medical regulations? Why are you against it (weed) being legal?
 

Plasmid

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Oh please, let's not fool ourselves into thinking that legalizing marjiuana is suddenly going to revolutionize the Agricultural/textile/paper industries.

I think it's far simpler than that, Alcohol and Tobacco have been used for so long it's been ingrained into society. Cannabis never got that far before medical regulations started kicking in.

Medical regulations? Not at all.

In the late early 20's / early 30's, hispanic immigrant workers from mexico started to work on American farms, as they did in mexico, they partook in smoking Marijuana to help with the task of hard labor. This eventually caught on with other workers, and it wasn't until later that they started denouncing it because Hispanic workers used it, African Americans used it etc.

Did you know that American propaganda set out the idea smoking marijuana made african american men want to rape white women? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger

Did you also know that Hemp, made from Marijuana, was one of the biggest cash crops IN THE WORLD until 1937 when it was prohibited?

Did you also know that Timber barons are responsible for the hemp prohibition? Hemp can be grown fully within 2 months, and is just as good as making paper and rope? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marihuana_Tax_Act_of_1937

Did you know that people were using marijuana for medicinal and spiritual purposes, as early as 6,000 BC? http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/marijuana-timeline.html

This is a great documentary on Marijuana prohibition. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfxaJQVxSA4

So yes, it is very possible to believe that the cultivation of marijuana, the usage of hemp etc, could entirely change the way we make products now. You may be enclined to believe that what most governments and uninformed people say about marijuana. It's not just about getting high, Marijuana can be used for a multitude of different things.

CNN had a documentary about a girl using a certain strain extract to help treat her seizures. This is a link to the article about it. http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/07/health/charlotte-child-medical-marijuana/
 

BeerSnob

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The upside is that they made marijuana $1/gram. The state control is to avoid abuse, i think it's great that they're treating it somewhat like alcohol.



Substances that are banned on the basis of "this country made it illegal so we should too".

Marijuana has very little detrimental effects, and those detrimental effects so far are only proven to be when people smoke from a young developing age that reduces the amount of white matter production in the brain.

The only reason it's not legal is because it hurts big pharma, big corporations, and it's impossible to patent.

hemp-chart.jpg

Ok, but who is Pepe Silvia? Does he even work here?

I hope this is the start of a global trend
 

Slavik81

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I'm torn on this issue, while I don't like the hypocrisy that marijuana is illegal and cigarettes/alcohol aren't, I'd rather we move forward to reduce usage of current toxins instead of legalizing already banned substances.
Prohibition does more harm than regulated legalization. Prohibition drives a black market that causes even more problems on top of the ones caused by the drugs.

Spending money on treating drug addicts is vastly more effective at reducing harm than spending money on jails is.
 

Espresso

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I'm torn on this issue, while I don't like the hypocrisy that marijuana is illegal and cigarettes/alcohol aren't, I'd rather we move forward to reduce usage of current toxins instead of legalizing already banned substances.

Like clockwork.
 
Marijuana tourism begins!

Yeah yeah the Netherlands, Jamaica, etc. were previous destinations, but Uruguay has it fully legalized now. Lets see how this experiment goes
 

Buzzman

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Geeze, that's a lot of replies. I'll say this, I think that making it legal and heavily regulating it is the way to go purely because it means less money goes to criminals. The reason I don't like it is because it's still a recreational poison that can cause harm. And legalizing it will make more people use it, but I guess it's worth it so in the long run we can minimize the damage it does.
 

Bodacious

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Only because they don't have old white men in power who look out for their interests first, ahead of what makes sense for the country as a whole.

One day.

They probably do have old white men in power ... population is 86% white per wikipedia, which really surprised me.
 
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