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[PonyStation4]

Has any of those countries president deny and denounce their own intel agencies i wonder.

US intel lost the respect of the American people when they lied about WMD's in Iraq and the fallout that followed.

I also believe that the US Intel agencies work an agenda separate from the President, in comparison to most other nations where they work with the president. You think UK politicians would call out their intel agencies when they've been proven to have been covering their pedophilia?

 

[King of Foxes]

Everyone knows America and other countries do this when they can, it's common knowledge. IMO America needs to be doing it because if Russia or China got their way the world over it would be terrible.

America doing this is shit but they are the lesser evil when compared to Russia or China, both of which have terrible human rights abuses.

 

[Cauliflower of Love]

US intel lost the respect of the American people when they lied about WMD's in Iraq and the fallout that followed.

I also believe that the US Intel agencies work an agenda separate from the President, in comparison to most other nations where they work with the president. You think UK politicians would call out their intel agencies when they've been proven to have been covering their pedophilia?

US intel did not lie about WMD, the bush admin did.

https://news.vice.com/article/the-c...t-that-supposedly-justified-the-iraq-invasion

 

[Panda1]

Everyone knows America and other countries do this when they can, it's common knowledge. IMO America needs to be doing it because if Russia or China got their way the world over it would be terrible.

America doing this is shit but they are the lesser evil when compared to Russia or China, both of which have terrible human rights abuses.

I love a good laugh!

 

[5secondrulesucks]

do as i say not as i do!

 

[King of Foxes]

I love a good laugh!

I was born and grew up under Soviet occupation, if you think those guys are on par with America you are clueless

 

[Ulysses 31]

I was born and grew up under Soviet occupation, if you think those guys are on par with America you are clueless

Yeah, they really need to experience being in line just to buy food or having no private property rights/laws.

 

[Panda1]

I was born and grew up under Soviet occupation, if you think those guys are on par with America you are clueless

Yes of course we should compare today with 7 years ago!! why not 1000 years ago or 30000 years ago? Why not Mulsims invasion of India or Mau? The dealth toll has no bearing to the influence today.
TODAY in 2018 and in current modern history thee is NO comparison of Americas influence from Iran, South America, the cluster fucks of Vietnam and Korea and currently my own country which is illegally occupied by the US.

 

[TheShadowLord]

If a country is being meddled in another country (election or otherwise), then I don't see why that country should not do something about it to protect their country.

 

[Panda1]

If a country is being meddled in another country (election or otherwise), then I don't see why that country should not do something about it to protect their country.

so give us some practical ideas how a developing country can do something to the USA? what should Iraq or Libyans do?

 

[TheShadowLord]

so give us some practical ideas how a developing country can do something to the USA?

with or without resorting to violence? Because a developing country wouldn't have the same tools as a developed country would have. So that probably is their only alternative or one of the few they have.

 

[Panda1]

with our without resorting to violence?

anything what should those countries have done?

 

[TheShadowLord]

anything what should those countries have done?

Well, they have the right to protect to their country. But it usually ends with the countries that have been interfered with using violence. I believe this is true for some countries like South Africa and Iran and it may have been better on my end to say that "would not" and not "should not"

 

[King of Foxes]

Yeah, they really need to experience being in line just to buy food or having no private property rights/laws.

It was more about the mass killings of my people and all other non Slavic peoples under their rule, not just the food lines

Yes of course we should compare today with 7 years ago!! why not 1000 years ago or 30000 years ago? Why not Mulsims invasion of India or Mau? The dealth toll has no bearing to the influence today.
TODAY in 2018 and in current modern history thee is NO comparison of Americas influence from Iran, South America, the cluster fucks of Vietnam and Korea and currently my own country which is illegally occupied by the US.

You fare far better with American occupation than you would under Russian or Chinese and thats a stone cold fact.

And its more than fair to compare modern Russia and China with their countries of 30 or so years ago because their current leadership grew up in those times, were taught be the leaders of those times and are products of those times.

I think you take for granted how many catches and safeties America and the West have in place for their people and governments compared to the East.

 

[Panda1]

It was more about the mass killings of my people and all other non Slavic peoples under their rule, not just the food lines



You fare far better with American occupation than you would under Russian or Chinese and thats a stone cold fact.

And its more than fair to compare modern Russia and China with their countries of 30 or so years ago because their current leadership grew up in those times, were taught be the leaders of those times and are products of those times.

I think you take for granted how many catches and safeties America and the West have in place for their people and governments compared to the East.

Your absolutely right http://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances Americans spread love and generosity to Haiti, Philipines, Cuba and Iran.
Why must you make it a pissing contest - bad is bad.

 

[King of Foxes]

Your absolutely right http://allthatsinteresting.com/us-dictator-alliances Americans spread love and generosity to Haiti, Philipines, Cuba and Iran.
Why must you make it a pissing contest - bad is bad.

Because unless Canada somehow becomes a major power we only really have 3 options for world police

 

[Ulysses 31]

It was more about the mass killings of my people and all other non Slavic peoples under their rule, not just the food lines

The killings and incarcerations are obvious things to point out and I tried to be a little more original. =((((