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Vampire the Mafia |OT| A Game of Masquerade

Any possibility of you explaining what's going on before you reach a near majority or are you just sort of going to hold the game hostage until your demands are met?

Votes for information is a fair trade off don't you think? I can't turbo myself and it'll look bad for my scum buddy to do so.
 

batsnacks

Member
Votes for information is a fair trade off don't you think? I can't turbo myself and it'll look bad for my scum buddy to do so.

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StMeph

Member
Unless I'm mistaken, four people didn't vote on day 2; Blarg, StMeph, Timeaisis, and Trigger.

I miscalculated the timer and thought there was an extra day, but there's no real defense for missing it. I would have voted Christina, and so I'm doing that now early in the phase.

Oh dear... I actually had squidyj as scum.

Firstly I should express thanks to Swamped and ynnek7 for believing I'm town (I hope that's the reason why they voted MickD previously).

I have something I need to share with town but first I require your votes. It's 9 to reach majority so I need 7 votes on me.

Some text above is pre-typed so it feels a bit weird. Seems I have no one who believes in me today :/

What does this even mean? Is this some Therese-Jeanette thing going on? Switching Town/Scum with alternating days?
 

batsnacks

Member
I miscalculated the timer and thought there was an extra day, but there's no real defense for missing it. I would have voted Christina, and so I'm doing that now early in the phase.





What does this even mean? Is this some Therese-Jeanette thing going on? Switching Town/Scum with alternating days?

It means he typed that post before the day started. So his plan from the start was to halt all discussion until he had 7+ votes for whatever reason.

He is probably caught mafia that wants to kill all discussion for the phase because he's going down anyway.

Swamped looks like mafia with CM if that's the case. Her post could have also been planned and pre-written to put distance between them:
Maybe squidy WAS on the right track. Maybe he was killed because he is loud and has some sway.

I feel a lot less clouded in my judgement now, having had the night phase to think about the D2 proceedings. I had an idea stuck in my mind and wouldn't let go of it, even though the possibility of it actually being real was kinda low. Also, really need CM to comment on D2 end and all the associations with me.

VOTE: Christina Mackenzie

There are no pro town reasons for CM to play this way that I can think of.
 

StMeph

Member
It means he typed that post before the day started. So his plan from the start was to halt all discussion until he had 7+ votes for whatever reason.

He is probably caught mafia that wants to kill all discussion for the phase because he's going down anyway.

Swamped looks like mafia with CM if that's the case. Her post could have also been planned and pre-written to put distance between them:


There are no pro town reasons for CM to play this way that I can think of.

Swamped is Therese, Christina is Jeanette.
 
Vote: Christina Mackenzie

I want to hear what CM has to say so for now I am voting him up. However I have doubts on Hobohodo and might change my vote to him. He posted that awesome conversation chart day 1 which made even Ace Investigator like me look bad. You dont't get to post that and survive for 2 nights unless you are scum. He should have long been dead.

Also he voted for MickD if that counts. But I voted for him too, so that is not a strong point.
 
CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Christina Mackenzie (4)
Swamped .738
StMeph .739
batsnacks .764
Satanic Saint .774

Blargonaut (1)
Dusk Soldier .741

Fat4all (1)
Ynnek7 .740

Swamped (1)
Blargonaut .768

Zubz (0)
Blargonaut .757 .768


No active vote for Day 3:
Christina Mackenzie
Dr. Worm
Fat4all
Hobohodo
infinit777
Mazre
Timeaisis
Trigger
Zubz



Day 3 ends:
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Automated vote tally here

9 votes for majority
 

Swamped

Banned
CM - i want to believe you're town. I just have that gut feeling. But if you need votes to speak how come you have not voted for yourself?

Not sure if Blarg is lying. Nobody came forward about being poisoned yesterday. Maybe it was scum though, if the poisoner is neutral.
 

Trigger

Member
Sorry for being MIA. The holiday really crushed my posting opportunities. I'm inclined to believe Blag's accusation for now. It seems like an odd lie to make at this point, and he's being unusually straight to the point. CM's ploy is a little off if he's scum. I'm guessing he's town with some strange connection to scum or has a power that targets people who vote for him. I'd be willing to vote CM, but only after more time has passed. It'd be nice

So far, I'm most suspicious of Satanic Saint. I expected him to be targeted by scum by now for claiming investigator. I'm keeping my eye on him. Swamped didn't ping my radar as scum, but I may just not being paying enough attention to her posts.
 

batsnacks

Member
CM - i want to believe you're town. I just have that gut feeling. But if you need votes to speak how come you have not voted for yourself?

Not sure if Blarg is lying. Nobody came forward about being poisoned yesterday. Maybe it was scum though, if the poisoner is neutral.
No reason not to believe him though that seems like a silly thing to lie about. The poisoner could just have limited uses and waited a day.
 
Votes so far...

Swamped - Thinks I'm town from Day 2, votes for me.
StMeph - Says Deja Vu Day 1... votes for me.
Ynnek7 - Thinks Fat4all is more interesting, does not vote for me.
Dusk Soldier - Doesn't think the end of Day 2 was interesting and votes Blargonaut, very suspicious to say the least
Fat4all - Deep in contemplation about whether to vote for me again or not. Perhaps it would help if I wasn't around? does not vote for me.
Dr Worm - Express slight remorse for voting in my absence Day 2. Thinks my flip is worth pursuing, does not vote for me.
batsnacks - Likens me to a terrorist holding the game hostage. votes for me.
Blargonaut - Apparently had bad ketchup last night.
Satanic Saint - Seems game to play along, votes for me.
Trigger - Was in the same situation like myself in Day 2 but didn't stay around to face the music. Says he'd be willing to vote for me.

In summary...

4 players votes on me
Swamped
StMeph
batsnacks
Satanic Saint

3 players have mentioned me but not voted
Fat4all
Dr Worm
Trigger

3 players are perhaps avoiding me
Ynnek7
Dusk Soldier
Blargonaut
 
I'm role claming today.

I made it seem like my role had something to do with votes but it doesn't. I did it mainly to see who is active in the game and as a way of recording who will believe my claim and who doesn't. No doubt, some of you won't believe me and scum will try and get me lynched today. Seemed like a good idea at the time.

I'm Gary Golden, head of the Nosferatu of Los Angeles. I'm a 2-shot commuter. Flavor says I can become invisible at night and unable to be targeted.

My reasons for claiming now is so that everyone can see that the lynch at the end of Day 2 was between 2 townies. I've tried to be active in the thread to appear town in the hopes of drawing a night kill but that's hard to do when almost no one thinks I'm town. As the game goes on I'm more likely to be a lynch target. I feel it's a fair trade off to claim now rather than trying to argue with everyone and role claiming near the end of the day. So far only Swamped has come out and said that she thinks I'm town.

Why am I trying to align myself with Swamped? I felt she's probably the only person in this game that can read me correctly. It would be good if she came out and said I was town. Also it seemed like an interesting play to try at the start just to see how she'd react though I'll admit I think I overdid it yesterday. I would have voted for Blargonaut initially even if Swamped hadn't just to pressure him. The Zubz vote was me just trusting that Swamped would eventually post some strong reasons why he's scum.

The choice is simple, if you don't believe me then vote me out. I flip town and you waste a day. If Blargonaut is telling the truth about the poison then it's mistake we shouldn't make.

If you believe I'm town, then we should look back at the end of Day 2 and try and piece together what was happening.
 
you still haven't actually role claimed.

what's your ability?

if it's a targeting one, who have you targeted?

how does your ability benefit town?
 

batsnacks

Member
Just so it's 100% clear. I don't know what is Swamped's alignment.
Okay so if you're town you can be certain of your alignment but you can't be certain of swamped's alignment, right?

Why not vote who you think is mafia, instead of who swamped thinks is mafia?

You said you voted zubz before swamped gave adequate reasons. So you're trusting that she's town, for no reason, and you're trusting she'll give reasons for her vote.

It looks like you're working together, you got called out hard yesterday and town almost lynched you, now today you're making a desperate claim while swamped initially tries to distance and then "wants to believe you're town" just in case this fake claim works.
 
Okay so if you're town you can be certain of your alignment but you can't be certain of swamped's alignment, right?

Why not vote who you think is mafia, instead of who swamped thinks is mafia?

You said you voted zubz before swamped gave adequate reasons. So you're trusting that she's town, for no reason, and you're trusting she'll give reasons for her vote.

It looks like you're working together, you got called out hard yesterday and town almost lynched you, now today you're making a desperate claim while swamped initially tries to distance and then "wants to believe you're town" just in case this fake claim works.

Caught one.
 

Trigger

Member
Wouldn't it have been better to just not claim like this? If there was a lot of pressure to vote you out today I could see claiming, but your power makes you an easy opportunity for mafia to waste a night kill. I'm not sure how you've helped us with this confession?
 

batsnacks

Member
The story is: Instead of voting who you think is mafia, you instead trust that another player is town, sheep their vote hoping they will post reasons later, and trust they are right.

You are 100% mafia.
 
The story is: Instead of voting who you think is mafia, you instead trust that another player is town, sheep their vote hoping they will post reasons later, and trust they are right.

You are 100% mafia.
there's nothing mafia about sheeping votes.

it's more of a newbie strategy then anything
 
The story is: Instead of voting who you think is mafia, you instead trust that another player is town, sheep their vote hoping they will post reasons later, and trust they are right.

You are 100% mafia.

Or maybe I'm town and I thought Swamped was town and trusted her judgement?

What's next? Swamped is mafia and I'm neutral trying to collude to reach my win condition?
 

batsnacks

Member
Wouldn't it have been better to just not claim like this? If there was a lot of pressure to vote you out today I could see claiming, but your power makes you an easy opportunity for mafia to waste a night kill. I'm not sure how you've helped us with this confession?
A town commuter would never claim, that ability is useless if mafia knows about it. He is caught and lying.
 

Swamped

Banned
If you believe I'm town, then we should look back at the end of Day 2 and try and piece together what was happening.

Then let's do that. I believe you.

UNVOTE

At the time (D2 end) I did feel that there was some apathy floating around, as if some people didn't really care which way the vote went. For example Ynnek's vote for MickD was unexplained (although that might be because it was very last minute. Let's see what he says today). There were certainly people who didn't have an active vote at the end of D2: Time, Blarg, Infinit, and StMeph.

We have an explanation from StMeph
Blarg opened today by voting for Zubz, then me
The other two still need to check in.

Going to look at Infinit more closely, as he is definitely in my blind spot. I really do think we have been scumhunting in the wrong places. We really need to hit scum today if we want a good chance of winning.

Really don't want to vote Mick here... Sorry, man.

At this point Zubz could have changed his vote to CM, putting CM in the lead. I guess he also town read CM though? He says that he thought he would cause a tie but El Topo posted right after with the updated vote count.

Also, Hobo started the MickD train. Squishy started the CM train. Pretty towny move from Hobo but I used to train trains all the time as scum, especially early in the game. Warrants a closer look.
 

Fat4all

Banned
CM, this claim is some crazy shit but it sounds pretty believable to me.

Your weird "vote for me" shenanigans made me pretty uneasy, but this is making me reconsider a whole lot of positions I had on people.
 

Swamped

Banned
A town commuter would never claim, that ability is useless if mafia knows about it. He is caught and lying.

I agree that it is useless to claim commuter as town. Maybe he used both his shots? That's why he didn't claim yesterday even though he was on the cutting board?

The one suspicious thing is that CM asked for 7 votes. As Mafia that's kind of risky because a lot of those votes could remain at day's end, making them that much closer to being lynched. However he did claim much before that. Maybe he did feel that was too risky.

Batsnacks, I know you think we are 'colluding' or something, but the reason I am 'biased' (I feel like all my explanations for my actions are good) is because I know I am town. And I cannot think why a scum CM would latch on to me, apart from the fact that we read each other pretty well.
 

Fat4all

Banned
Going to look at Infinit more closely, as he is definitely in my blind spot. I really do think we have been scumhunting in the wrong places. We really need to hit scum today if we want a good chance of winning.

I looked at Infinit pretty closely a few days ago and couldn't really get a good read on them one way or another. If they are scum they are pretty much gliding through this, but also aren't giving away anything too obvious.
 
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