There was some bullshit even before then. The Beerus vs Goku cop out in the first arc.
Dont really remember this one
The universe 6 tournament as well.
What was bullshit about this?
The Goku black arc, with Future Trunks SSJ2 being on par with post Whis training SSJ3 Goku, that he has no choice but to use God ki to take him out.
There's nothing strange about that. That whole "Base form so strong I can beat powered up people" nonsense is an Anime-Only thing in DBSuper.
Goku still very much has to transform to fight people when he's not in his God forms, his non-god forms are
more or less around the same level they were at DBZ. Trunks presumably trained and mastered the SSJ2 form to the same degree that Goku mastered SSJ1.
And honestly, SSJ3 was never a good form. It tires him out if he can't win immediately, and it's power hungry, so I doubt that Goku could have even beaten Gohan by the end of the Buu saga, ignoring Goku's superior skill.
So honestly i'm not really surprised that Trunks could have trained enough to beat Goku. Goku doesn't really train SSJ3, and SSJGod is better in literally every way.
Immortal Zamasu shown to be a weakling previously by SSB Goku switching back to SSJ to fight him, could now send Red God Vegeta flying away with a kick.
Don't really remember this either. A kick doesn't really mean anything, Zamasu couldn't beat either Goku or Vegeta at any form.
TOP manga with Roshi being able to make Jiren look like a chump with his version of UI, was a complete fucking yikes.
To be honest this is the worst part of the Manga, but to be fair, there's only so much the manga can do to FORCE Goku to learn UI within the scope of a single tournament.
I'll say that I like the idea of him learning it by example of Roshi. Roshi had the most influence on Goku's base fighting style.....the rest of his training from others has mostly been spiritual / strength training, and he hasn't learned from Roshi since.
The little conversation where Goku's training spectrum comes full-circle when Roshi is explaining it to him was really well done.
Kefla vs Gohan wasn't good either. As the Potara multiplier is shown to put the fusion on a completely different level, many times before. Gohan Adsorbed Buu was no match for SSJ Vegito whose two fusee were likely under Pot unlocked Gohan in terms of power at that point in time. And with A Gohan who had slacked off on his training since that time?
Caulifla is strong, but she's nothing much to write home about -- Kale was powerful, but the whole middle / last half of the Cell saga was explaining how raw power alone isn't enough to beat good opponents, something Vegeta actually alluded to right before Kale was beaten by the weaker Pride Troopers.
So saying Gohan can't beat Kefla is pretty much like saying Gohan can't beat Gotenks. And i'm pretty sure Gohan would have wiped the floor with Gotenks. Potara combined their total power levels with a multiplier, but neither of them were really that strong to begin with.
And Gohan isn't
half as weak in the Manga as in the Anime......DBSuper isn't even that long after the Buu saga but Gohan literally lost like 50lbs of muscle in the anime for some dumb reason.
Even this Moro Arc has its weirdness there. Two months of training to learn how to access Omen stage at will, and Goku couldn't get the job done against someone who isn't even in the realm of the divine. This chapter you got Vegeta with the Evolution Blue form form the anime, beating the fuck outta Moro, and yet ended up getting outmaneuvered by a weakened old man Moro long enough to get a new power up that rolfstomped Vegeta in one panel. But this is DB so stuff like this is going to be par for the course with the franchise.
Two months with an angel like Whis. A stretch but not too crazy.
As for Moro, "MAGIC" seems to be on (or near) the same level as "Divine" as far as DBZ goes. Even Zamasu was able to incapacitate god-form Goku
Vegeta isn't using "Evolution Blue", it's something completely different, and judging from the aura it seems to be on a different path from Completed Blue that Goku/Vegeta have been using up until now. The Aura on Blue has mostly been confirmed to be a sign of inefficiency.
Vegeta stalling long enough for Moro to get stronger again absolutely was a bullshit move tho and something I feel like he absolutely wouldn't do at this point in the Manga, especially after their fight with Zamasu.
