Ass of Can Whooping
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I'm excited for hypothetical xbox games coming to PS
Hypothetical because Xbox has no games
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Verge: MS launching Hi-Fi Rush and Pentiment on other platforms, Sea of Thieves later in 2024
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I'm excited for hypothetical xbox games coming to PS
Hypothetical because Xbox has no games
Varteras
Member
This man wakes up every day and chooses violence. I'm here for it.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
If the argument is it's because Sea of Thieves is a GaaS then that applies to Halo, Gears and Forza
They're coming babe
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Mr.Phoenix
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Your personal preferences has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
The point being made was that Sony also started of with just a few games, but now, you can say that most PS5 games will make their way to PC eventually. And that the same thing will happen with Xbox with regards to their games on PlayStation.
If you are interested in PS games, really isn't our business or pertinent to the conversation being had. Nor is it anyone's business that I think what you said about the whole PS games stuff is disingenuous. To be honest I find everyone that says stuff like what you said highly suspect. Because under scrutiny it always falls apart. In the same way I would think anyone that says they don't like anything MS puts out to be full of shit. But that's neither here nor there.
Negotiator101
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Are you in the they're coming in "3 years" camp?or is it 4 or 5 years?
Fuck it i'll go with the end of 2024
If i'm wrong i'll drink
Banjo64
cum
Ar¢tos
Member
I'll buy Pentiment if it costs 5€ or less (or I'll wait a couple of months for the price to drop that low).
The game looks like it could be ported in a couple of weeks by an unpaid intern to run without even any optimization on a toaster, so it makes sense to port it, whatever profit it generates, it's easy money.
Varteras
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tommib
Member
Can we tone it down with all the cum talk in the morning? It’s making me horny at the office.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Varteras
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Negotiator101
Member
Fine by me
I can't see any of those 3 Halo, Forza and Gears going anytime soon. Unless the rumours of a new next-gen console are bullshit.
Negotiator101
Member
This is more plausible but for how long would it be exclusive IYO?
tommib
Member
1 year. That’s my feeling. Kind of what we’ve seen with third party games exclusive to gamepass/xbox on release: the medium, Scorn, High on Life, etc.
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Negotiator101
Member
Isn't that too long though? You know that a game after 6 months starts to lose the hype and impact it would make, 6 months would be better for sales but it would probably cause a massive uproar.
The other issue is Gamepass effecting the initial sales which is unavoidable with the day 1 release. I'd look into bringing the bigger releases (AAA titles) within a 3 month window to Gamepass to give a chance to sell a reasonable amount while not hurting the subscribers too much.
Ar¢tos
Member
I'm off to suck the first hobo I can find because of this discussion!
Wait a moment...
It's not the first time
Ass of Can Whooping
makes this comment, and I think it's not the first time he does it with
Banjo64
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Ass of Can Whooping
Member
I'm off to suck the first hobo I can find because of this discussion!
Wait a moment...
It's not the first time
Astray
Member
I have seen people talk about how making all Bethesda games timed exclusive and XGS games full exclusive is enough for the ecosystem to still thrive.
There’s no public statement or any material leaked from MS with this claim. At all.
TrippleA345
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azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So this is what we do now? Just straight up lies?
1 example but there's lots of other in those leaked emails.
Killjoy-NL
Member
With a much larger installbase on Playstation, it's easy to sell more copies than on Xbox itself.
Personally, I don't see any Xbox game being a major hit on Playstation.
They just don't have that AAA-quality Sony does. Not since XBO was released.
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MisterXDTV
Member
Nobody actually bought it on Xbox, it's free on GamePass....
Killjoy-NL
Member
Fair point. Lol
Still, I don't think the majority of the Playstation installbase really cares about Xbox games and the ones that do most likely do so out of nostalgia.
They're fun games in between the big games at best.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Pentiment was slower than old people fucking. Bored me to tears for the two or so hours I tried it.
I don’t believe ‘win’ using in that context translates to ‘outselling PlayStation’, and your link is misleadingly tagging on ‘next generation’ to the actual statement he made and skewing the headline.
Show me where any of that is featured in the leaked emails. ‘Lots’ indeed.
interesting. You believe PlayStation would be the only platform where Forza Horizon games would be unpopular?
Or that the people who made Hellblade sell much better than Ninja Theory expected on the PlayStation would be only interested in a sequel out of ‘nostalgia’?
Doom? Elder Scrolls? An Indiana Jones game?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah he's using winning as losing in this context which is basicaly the same thing right ?So there's no puiblic statements except those that you chose to ignore.
So I guess you will ignore the mails too?
Killjoy-NL
Member
Not what I'm saying at all.
I'm saying Xbox games on Playstation is fun to argue about on gaming forums, but it's not really a great catch quality-wise.
With Xbox games on Playstation, we'll see direct comparisons for the first time and it'll highlight the mediocrity put out by XBG.
Part of the reason why Xbox is dying.
Whether they'll be successful is relative. Depends on what is considered a success, but at the very least it'll create more revenue for Xbox compared to now.
He’s using ‘winning’ in this context.
Xbox's Phil Spencer: 'We're not driven by how many consoles we sell'
As the Xbox Series X and Series S are released, Microsoft gaming chief Phil Spencer says the next games generation is all about how many players you have, not how many consoles you shift
www.theguardian.com
There he clearly states that he expects PC to cannibalize Xbox console sales and talks about the success metric for him being players
You clearly were too busy googling up shit to support your argument that you failed to realize the link you provided made up the headline
Yes, by all means explain how celebrating a power advantage translates to expectations of outselling the competition. Something that isn’t even stated there.
Why do you post links that you either haven’t read, or lack the ability to comprehend?
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
I hope they launch the next big gaas game day one on all platforms. Or maybe they try it to see if it reinvigorates sales 12 months after.
We should deffo do a big Gaf online Sea of thieves session
We should deffo do a big Gaf online Sea of thieves session
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So to you we should redefine how to win a generation according to Phil's definition, then the mails don't count even when both times they say winning the generation.He’s using ‘winning’ in this context.
Xbox's Phil Spencer: 'We're not driven by how many consoles we sell'
As the Xbox Series X and Series S are released, Microsoft gaming chief Phil Spencer says the next games generation is all about how many players you have, not how many consoles you shift
There he clearly states that he expects PC to cannibalize Xbox console sales and talks about the success metric for him being players
You clearly were too busy googling up shit to support your argument that you failed to realize the link you provided made up the headline
Yes, by all means explain how celebrating a power advantage translates to expectations of outselling the competition. Something that isn’t even stated there.
Why do you post links that you either haven’t read, or lack the ability to comprehend?
But I guess your interpretation is better than an interview where Phil says exactly what you say he never said but I guess your interpretation is worth a lot more right ?
Maybe you should try to avoid saying that there haven't been public or private statements about it when a quick google search (because what else do you want when you are asking for receipts?) shows it to be totally wrong, no matter what bullshit interpretation you are desperately trying to extrapolate from the exact words you tried to deny.The only clear thing is that you will negate each and every sentence proving you wrong just like you did.
Like that article look at the video, like those mails where they say they feel happy and think they will win this gen.
You’ve failed to provide even ONE source where he says they’re winning the generation by outselling the competition.
Do you truly not realize that the link you provided is the article author inserting that paraphrase themselves?
There’s a reason why other outlet like VG247 and Gamespot reported that same interview without the sensationalist crap you fished out.
except Phil never said those words himself.
You mean like the email you shared where he said he feels happy with their spec advantage and their design choices…but where ‘outselling PlayStation’ was never mentioned?
How do you lack the ability to read what you posted?
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
So you want an actual quote of phil saying "we will win the generation by selling more console"....Really ?Like a real human being saying this totally not robotic and weird sentence?
You have no better straws to grasp at ?
Because just to recap someone said Phil planned to win the generation, you said it has never been said nor leaked, I provided the receipts both time, with one even being Phil in an interview saying we have a plan to win the generation, the exact thing you said he never said.
But now it has to be "we will win by selling more console" but the thing is since you move goalpost even if I find this sentence it will become "we will win by selling more than twice the competition" then it will be "we will outspend the competition" ....Oops they did say that so nevermind.
So to look for Phil saying that they will win the gen I need to find a quote that is not we will win this gen....Do you see the paradox there?
But again without considering any bullshit interpretation
poster A : Phil said they have a plan to win the gen
You: he never said that!!!!!
Me: Provide the interview with this exact wording
You: yeah but winning means something diferent.
So winning means something different between poster A and the receipts, unless even if Phil considers winning something different it has absolutely no bearing about the fact that he said it, you just chose to interpret it differently between poster A and the interview....Why?What kind of proof do you want just tell me because this everchanging perception that you have of words and their concepts will not help.
Just cut the bullshit, winning the gen is selling more and you can see that the feel confidant the will win this gen, you are just moving goalposts.
Because no matter how you interpret it they said it, the rest is just speculation from your part.
Rudius
Member
Forza Horizon would sell more on PS5 than it did on Xbox.
MisterXDTV
Member
I literally provided a pre-launch interview with the guardian where Spencer clearly specified what ‘winning’ meant to Xbox. Players, in his own words. Not a paraphrase. An interview where he directly admitted that PC would cannibalize console sales, and where he insisted - as always - that console sales weren’t the all important metric for his division.
But I realize I’m arguing with someone who will not read, so…
If you still cannot understand you never did this, then there’s a very wide comprehension gap that I fear we cannot bridge.
If you don’t know what square brackets mean, then you have much bigger concerns than arguing on a gaming forum.
azertydu91
Hard to Kill
Yeah my bad he never said it because he has another definition that is somehow a reason that justifies how when he said it, it didn't count....
Your mental gymnastic:
Honestly I get better responses talking to a brick wall, so I won't bother responding anymore and will leave you in your own reality bending bubble.(Don't worry maybe some of my words have different interpretations).
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Those big exclusives have worked out sooooo welll for Xbox!
It's resulted in....check notes.
1. Decreasing console sales
2. Stagnant gamepass subscriptions.
But don't worry, it's all gonna change for Microsoft.
Mr.Phoenix
Member
But isnt that what a lot of us have been saying?
I don't believe they will ALL come. I think the more expensive games, the ones with the $100-$200M budgets are more likely to come than the smaller titles. And the smaller titles that do come will be the most popular ones. Basically, the ones that have the highest chance of selling well.
As for duration, I would say 30-90 days or at most one year. Gamepass day 1 pretty much comes off as MS giving away those games for peanuts. So chances are they would keep the "other platforms" launch of the games as close as possible to its release on gamepass to ride the hype train. In the grand scheme of things, the fact that its on gamepass day 1 should mean they don't even have to delay before releasing on other platforms. gamepass and Xbox will still be the cheapest way to play their games. I think that is what they would push going forward, as opposed to them being exclusive. Get it here first and for less.
My really crazy idea is that their market strategy may change such that, the games are available on gamepass/xbox store day 1 but not even available on PC for sale Day 1. They become available on Steam for sale at the same time they become available on the PlayStation.
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
This definition of winning is the guy who get rejected by every girl, but still believes he won because he is the "nice guy"He’s using ‘winning’ in this context.
Xbox's Phil Spencer: 'We're not driven by how many consoles we sell'
As the Xbox Series X and Series S are released, Microsoft gaming chief Phil Spencer says the next games generation is all about how many players you have, not how many consoles you shift
There he clearly states that he expects PC to cannibalize Xbox console sales and talks about the success metric for him being players
You clearly were too busy googling up shit to support your argument that you failed to realize the link you provided made up the headline
Yes, by all means explain how celebrating a power advantage translates to expectations of outselling the competition. Something that isn’t even stated there.
Why do you post links that you either haven’t read, or lack the ability to comprehend?
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Who in the goddamn fuck is saying this?
Ar¢tos
Member
I doubt Pentiment would have been played at all if it wasn't on gamepass.
At least for that game GP was a good thing.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I still think Gamepass is going to change. Maybe not today or thursday, but it still has to have some degree of sustainability and growth.
What would I do with Gamepass?
1. Get rid of Day 1 exclusives. Give them a 1 year window.
2. Drop the price to $9.99 a month. $99 a year.
3. Release an indie/legacy only option for $4.99 a month with older legacy titles. $50 a year
Would that likely do anything? I doubt it, but I am just throwing shit out there.
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DJ12
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Worst case possible for MS is releasing them at the same time as xbox.
Releasing hot garbage like starfield, redfall and forza in the state they released them for xbox would killed the third party experiment before it really begun.
1 year is absolute minimum for them to get everything fixed with the beta testers, then go all in for the paying customers releasing a banging product.
splattered
Member
I bought the deluxe edition on xbox.
But haven't even booted it up yet.
Cod, Diablo, fortnight, baldurs gate all taking up what little free time I have.
R3claimer117
Member
How does that make any sense when if anything this has been Microsoft’s stance since acquiring bathesda. That they would evaluate games on a case by case basis. This could just be a rouse for the regulatory bodies of the world that they’ve maintained that status quo. People ran with their own rumors because of their own obsession with the death of Xbox and console warrior fudder. So if they get upset that Xbox is not going anywhere and Microsoft is only putting smaller titles on PlayStation and switch that’s on them not some manufactured pr blunder. A three trillion dollar company doesn’t have to come out and address every rumor people come up with for clicks.
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